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Why did Bruno do a CD only show when it was on AM only at the time?
![]() Colin Young on the Trunk of Funk plays a lot of vinyl, it sounds no different, though you get the odd crackle
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I love this show and think TB is excellent but rarely listen to the 1st hour as I'm generally more interested in 76 onwards.
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I said I'd like to hear them play nineties charts, though I'd understand if it might not appeal to everyone.
The problem is there is not enough of these type of programmes on BBC Radio now and there are more and more charts to cover every year. When Alan Freeman did the programme on Radio 1 1989-92 he covered 3 years a week with only 40 years of charts. Now we have 60 years of charts but only 2 covered a week. |
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When Alan Freeman did the programme on Radio 1 1989-92 he covered 3 years a week with only 40 years of charts.Now we have 60 years of charts but only 2 covered a week.
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Because the R1 demographic is now 15-24, even with a 2000 chart the oldest targeted listener would have only been 11.
I'm no expert on modern stuff, but the oldest record played on today's Breakfast Show appears to be from 2003, where are the 90's tracks? The charts from the 80s onwards increasingly had less and less variety. IMO a 90s or 00s retro chart doesn't have the general interest that one from the 50s, 60s or 70s does. My answer, personally, would be that Radio 1 should be playing music from the last 20 years. I say that as someone who doesn't currently listen to Radio 1... but also as someone that used to listen to Radio 1 years ago, and expected it to play the then music of the previous 20 years. There were retro charts on Radio 1 in the 70s, 80s and into the 90s, and they played music from the previous 30 years or so! That's where 90s and 00s retro charts should be now. 90s or 00s music works better on Radio 2 as part of the mix of music, where a DJ isn't constrained by playing tracks from one chart. |
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I see the point then if neither Radio 1 or 2 wants the 90s. The problem is that the charts began to change during the 80s and 90s, and stopped reflecting a wide range of music. The 78 chart of this week, for example, has disco, pop, hard rock, soft rock, punk in various guises, comedy records, eurovision songs, film soundtracks, music in a 50s style, music in a 30s style... It's very hard to catagorise all the different styles in one Top 40.
What constitutes a "mainstream chart" in this country nowadays, in other words the official top forty as broadcast on Radio 1, is infact nothing of the sort in my opinion, and is no more than yet another "type" of chart. In no way can it anymore claim to be a truly national mainsteam music chart surely? How did this happen? Also, the sound of a chart from, let's take 1974 and then 1981 as per last weeks show, or even more so with 1966 to 1976 in the coming weekends edition, there was a definite kind of sound in those years that did not last long until things changed. Now however, in 2013, you could go way back to 1993 with tracks sounding much the same. Music from 2000 could be music from 2010 as if the decade never existed between. Not forgetting if Tony starts playing charts from 2000 onwards many of them will have absolutely NO climbers, just a succession of new entries and downers, which made the British singles chart from about 1995 to 2006 an absolute discredited joke not worthy of looking at, such as one of the worst chart behaviour years in history when in 2000 about 12 consecutive weeks had a new number one debuting straight at the top. That was never credible. I want to hear meaningful charts on Pick Of The Pops. I recall back in January 1989 when Fluff returned with Pick Of The Pops to Radio 1 on a Sunday afternoon, one of that days charts he "picked" was from just 7 years earlier in 1982, and at the time to me it felt like an entire pop era ago, which infact it more or less was. |
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I see the point then if neither Radio 1 or 2 wants the 90s. The problem is that the charts began to change during the 80s and 90s, and stopped reflecting a wide range of music. The 78 chart of this week, for example, has disco, pop, hard rock, soft rock, punk in various guises, comedy records, eurovision songs, film soundtracks, music in a 50s style, music in a 30s style... It's very hard to catagorise all the different styles in one Top 40.
The charts from the 80s onwards increasingly had less and less variety. IMO a 90s or 00s retro chart doesn't have the general interest that one from the 50s, 60s or 70s does. My answer, personally, would be that Radio 1 should be playing music from the last 20 years. I say that as someone who doesn't currently listen to Radio 1... but also as someone that used to listen to Radio 1 years ago, and expected it to play the then music of the previous 20 years. There were retro charts on Radio 1 in the 70s, 80s and into the 90s, and they played music from the previous 30 years or so! That's where 90s and 00s retro charts should be now. 90s or 00s music works better on Radio 2 as part of the mix of music, where a DJ isn't constrained by playing tracks from one chart. |
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The 1978 chart is wildly varied as proved each week on TV this year.
What constitutes a "mainstream chart" in this country nowadays, in other words the official top forty as broadcast on Radio 1, is infact nothing of the sort in my opinion, and is no more than yet another "type" of chart. In no way can it anymore claim to be a truly national mainsteam music chart surely? How did this happen? Also, the sound of a chart from, let's take 1974 and then 1981 as per last weeks show, or even more so with 1966 to 1976 in the coming weekends edition, there was a definite kind of sound in those years that did not last long until things changed. Now however, in 2013, you could go way back to 1993 with tracks sounding much the same. Music from 2000 could be music from 2010 as if the decade never existed between. Not forgetting if Tony starts playing charts from 2000 onwards many of them will have absolutely NO climbers, just a succession of new entries and downers, which made the British singles chart from about 1995 to 2006 an absolute discredited joke not worthy of looking at, such as one of the worst chart behaviour years in history when in 2000 about 12 consecutive weeks had a new number one debuting straight at the top. That was never credible. I want to hear meaningful charts on Pick Of The Pops. I recall back in January 1989 when Fluff returned with Pick Of The Pops to Radio 1 on a Sunday afternoon, one of that days charts he "picked" was from just 7 years earlier in 1982, and at the time to me it felt like an entire pop era ago, which infact it more or less was. |
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If i remeber, Fluff did a countdown from the 12 months previous once
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If i remeber, Fluff did a countdown from the 12 months previous once
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I see the point then if neither Radio 1 or 2 wants the 90s. The problem is that the charts began to change during the 80s and 90s, and stopped reflecting a wide range of music. The 78 chart of this week, for example, has disco, pop, hard rock, soft rock, punk in various guises, comedy records, eurovision songs, film soundtracks, music in a 50s style, music in a 30s style... It's very hard to catagorise all the different styles in one Top 40.
The charts from the 80s onwards increasingly had less and less variety. IMO a 90s or 00s retro chart doesn't have the general interest that one from the 50s, 60s or 70s does. My answer, personally, would be that Radio 1 should be playing music from the last 20 years. I say that as someone who doesn't currently listen to Radio 1... but also as someone that used to listen to Radio 1 years ago, and expected it to play the then music of the previous 20 years. There were retro charts on Radio 1 in the 70s, 80s and into the 90s, and they played music from the previous 30 years or so! That's where 90s and 00s retro charts should be now. 90s or 00s music works better on Radio 2 as part of the mix of music, where a DJ isn't constrained by playing tracks from one chart. On your points of the charts. I disagree about your view about the 50's and 80's. The 80's was arguably when the charts hit their peak. Certainly just about everyone listened to The Top 40 throughout most of the decade where as during most of the 50's there wasn't even an official chart. Yes you do have a point about the 90's with the speed of the charts but with the format of Pick of the Pops this can be gotten round by the fact that not all songs in The Top 20 are played. |
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"Don't be misled by peoples false comments thinking Tony and the POTP's team are using vinyl from the Radio 2 playout system. They are really bringing in turntables to the studio to play real vinyl provided by the team " - What you hear is from real live vinyl. No magic tricks.
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I think it depends on whether the year is picked carefully. When 2001 was done last year it worked because there was quite a variety of music and has said a lot of the songs featured were played on Radio 2 when they were new. If they carefully picked a chart that wasn't dominated by Dance music it works. In the 90's it wasn't all Dance music and picking the right chart can give you a decent mix of Brit Pop, Pop and Adult Contemporary.
It's only really when downloads took over the chart that the variety went and became very similar to the Radio 1 playlist. It depends on your favourite era of music. Every era has a type of music which tends to dominate the charts at that time so if you don't like that type of music it seems like the charts have no variety. |
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"Don't be misled by peoples false comments thinking Tony and the POTP's team are using vinyl from the Radio 2 playout system. They are really bringing in turntables to the studio to play real vinyl provided by the team " - What you hear is from real live vinyl. No magic tricks.
I'm reminded of Noel Edmonds Gotcha Oscar on Gloria Hunniford in the early 90's on Radio 2 when she was still playing vinyl on a turntable and the producer came in on her, broke the vinyl tack in half live on air. Very very funny and she gave a priceless look. http://youtu.be/81jKzRPLIgY |
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Talking of jingles, the show is missing the R1 summer jingle, which sort of went...."Suuuummmmer radio, on the Tony Blackburn show....."
It was used by most Radio 1 DJ's late 70's early 80's, often on the Roadshow anyone recall the one I mean? It would be a good addition to summer POTP charts.
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The 1978 chart is wildly varied as proved each week on TV this year.
What constitutes a "mainstream chart" in this country nowadays, in other words the official top forty as broadcast on Radio 1, is infact nothing of the sort in my opinion, and is no more than yet another "type" of chart. In no way can it anymore claim to be a truly national mainsteam music chart surely? How did this happen? Also, the sound of a chart from, let's take 1974 and then 1981 as per last weeks show, or even more so with 1966 to 1976 in the coming weekends edition, there was a definite kind of sound in those years that did not last long until things changed. Now however, in 2013, you could go way back to 1993 with tracks sounding much the same. Music from 2000 could be music from 2010 as if the decade never existed between. Not forgetting if Tony starts playing charts from 2000 onwards many of them will have absolutely NO climbers, just a succession of new entries and downers, which made the British singles chart from about 1995 to 2006 an absolute discredited joke not worthy of looking at, such as one of the worst chart behaviour years in history when in 2000 about 12 consecutive weeks had a new number one debuting straight at the top. That was never credible. I want to hear meaningful charts on Pick Of The Pops. I recall back in January 1989 when Fluff returned with Pick Of The Pops to Radio 1 on a Sunday afternoon, one of that days charts he "picked" was from just 7 years earlier in 1982, and at the time to me it felt like an entire pop era ago, which infact it more or less was. I would like to see someone produce a 70s demographic chart for today. By this I mean find out the demographics of the chart buying public in the 70s, and produce a weekly chart today where you use information from itunes or wherever regarding the demographic of the buyer. That info must be available today - you can't sign onto a website without providing your age, sex, etc. So I think if you sample the current weekly chart to reflect the demographics of the 70s, you would end up with a decent varied chart today. |
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I think it depends on whether the year is picked carefully. When 2001 was done last year it worked because there was quite a variety of music and has said a lot of the songs featured were played on Radio 2 when they were new. If they carefully picked a chart that wasn't dominated by Dance music it works. In the 90's it wasn't all Dance music and picking the right chart can give you a decent mix of Brit Pop, Pop and Adult Contemporary.
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But you are talking about a Radio 1 from the past. Since the Bannister years Radio 1 plays very little music over a few years old. There was the mystery years when Simon Mayo was at the station which would go back as far as 1988 but this was scrapped when he left in 2001. Apart from a brief re introduction of The Golden Hour when Chris Moyles was at the station there has been little interest in any retro features or shows on the station.
On your points of the charts. I disagree about your view about the 50's and 80's. The 80's was arguably when the charts hit their peak. Certainly just about everyone listened to The Top 40 throughout most of the decade where as during most of the 50's there wasn't even an official chart. Yes you do have a point about the 90's with the speed of the charts but with the format of Pick of the Pops this can be gotten round by the fact that not all songs in The Top 20 are played. I would agree it's possible to cherry pick one off charts that may be half decent. However I'm not sure it's worth it to displace a 50s, 60s, 70s or 80s chart. I'm not convinced that playing an hour of a chart from the 90s or 00s is the 'job' of Radio 2. I disagree with Radio 1 abondoning music of the previous 20 years. I disagreed with that policy in the 90s, and I disagree with it now. I'd keep POTP on Radio 2 as it is re years covered. |
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Here's a nice crispy clear recording of the jingle on you tube. Come on Tony (if you're reading this!) Why not use it on Pick of the Pops? Remember, there's no mention of the radio station in it. You once said it was blessed by the Arch Bishop of Scunthorpe and was guaranteed to bring out the sunshine
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Stereo as well! Anyone Tweeted him? I guess the problem is that its not the Tony Blackburn Show, Pick On The Pops will scan but not very well.
If anyone checked out that Gloria clip, it is hard to believe that it was only 20 years back, although one source says it is as far ago as 1988, looking at her putting the tracks on the turntable herself and placing the needle. It all looks so quaint! |
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I'm not on twitter, but it would be nice if someone who is interested, or contributes to this thread tweets him about it.
Other DJs with the Summer Radio jingle were Peter Powell, Kid Jensen, DLT, Simon Bates, Paul Burnett and later Philip Schofield. |
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I would agree it's possible to cherry pick one off charts that may be half decent. However I'm not sure it's worth it to displace a 50s, 60s, 70s or 80s chart. I'm not convinced that playing an hour of a chart from the 90s or 00s is the 'job' of Radio 2. I disagree with Radio 1 abondoning music of the previous 20 years. I disagreed with that policy in the 90s, and I disagree with it now. I'd keep POTP on Radio 2 as it is re years covered.
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Don't forget that Tony does read the DS Forums too. He certainly remembers the jingle but, as keicar comments, it's POTP and not the Tony Blackburn show. Also there's the question of getting permission to use the Chris Rainbow jingle. Who'd now own the copyright?
Other DJs with the Summer Radio jingle were Peter Powell, Kid Jensen, DLT, Simon Bates, Paul Burnett and later Philip Schofield. |
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surely if the audience for a chart show from 1990 onwards was felt in demand then Radio 1 could air a weekly programme maybe a job for Mr Moyles?
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surely if the audience for a chart show from 1990 onwards was felt in demand then Radio 1 could air a weekly programme maybe a job for Mr Moyles?
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So why was Moyles replaced in the 1st place? To get a younger audience! So they are hardly going to introduce a retro show presented by him are they?
The BBC re-employed Mr Blackburn for a similar reason, one could argue that he's beyond the Radio 2 daytime demographic, but still extremely popular. Annie Nightingale is still on Radio1. |
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Why not? its a good idea, even youngsters get nostalgic.
The BBC re-employed Mr Blackburn for a similar reason, one could argue that he's beyond the Radio 2 daytime demographic, but still extremely popular. Annie Nightingale is still on Radio1. |
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