With the launch of YouView should Arqiva considerd relaunching SeeSaw

MeMeMeI · 01-06-2013, 13:38

With the launch of YouView should Arqiva considerd relaunching the SeeSaw TV service or find partners to re-launch SeeSaw on YouView?

cdon77 · 04-06-2013, 17:58

er.........No

VisionMan1 · 04-06-2013, 18:14

Why on earth would they want to do that?

MeMeMeI · 09-06-2013, 00:02

Why not ? VOD is taking off

TVPaulD · 09-06-2013, 02:10

Yeah but SeeSaw never did anything particularly notable and was virtually ignored in the marketplace. Hard to see Arqiva managing to compete any better the second time around.

technologist · 09-06-2013, 07:48

As a Content provider would you want to go through an aggregator like See-saw to access a platform like you view when you can do it yourself(Easily).

See saw and Kangaroo made a lot of sense when they would be the only/ a leading platform - but now that there are others there ..... is there much point....
(and or is a technology company the right way of doing it ??)

alcockell · 10-06-2013, 13:57

Isn't what Youview offers a *common client spec* as opposed to a common content client application?

Best of both worlds would have probably been a reference device AND reference playback application; instead of a reference device running multiple playback clients... and "competition" between them..

As opposed to best-of-breed at each layer...

Youview done *right* would have been...

Reference hardware (Youview box) - defined to...

TV App Layer (recently opened under Apache licence by BBC)

iPlayer client used as codebase for a Youview playback client, either opened or licensed liberally to allow recompilation to run anywhere - this was the basis for Seesaw. (iPlayer beign best of breed)

On the server side - open-licensed iPlayer playout infrastructure...

Rather than different clients playing in a common frame.

Effectively rebadge the best-of-breed and you have the wide reach enabled through the open layers...

become the PAL-I of TV IP playout...

VisionMan1 · 10-06-2013, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcockell

Isn't what Youview offers a *common client spec* as opposed to a common content client application?

Best of both worlds would have probably been a reference device AND reference playback application; instead of a reference device running multiple playback clients... and "competition" between them..

As opposed to best-of-breed at each layer...

Youview done *right* would have been...

Reference hardware (Youview box) - defined to...

TV App Layer (recently opened under Apache licence by BBC)

iPlayer client used as codebase for a Youview playback client, either opened or licensed liberally to allow recompilation to run anywhere - this was the basis for Seesaw. (iPlayer beign best of breed)

On the server side - open-licensed iPlayer playout infrastructure...

Rather than different clients playing in a common frame.

Effectively rebadge the best-of-breed and you have the wide reach enabled through the open layers...

become the PAL-I of TV IP playout...

It was my understanding the above is the way YouView was meant to be. With the BBC iPlayer Team writing all the coding for each PSB's content selection and thereby improving the vastly inferior ITV Player to boot. Only the PSB's said no, because they 'wanted their own identity'. Pfft, if true. And I'll throw in an allegedly, too.

alcockell · 10-06-2013, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by VisionMan1

It was my understanding the above is the way YouView was meant to be. With the BBC iPlayer Team writing all the coding for each PSB's content selection and thereby improving the vastly inferior ITV Player to boot. Only the PSB's said no, because they 'wanted their own identity'. Pfft, if true. And I'll throw in an allegedly, too.

Could have easily been skinned differently or borrow from the Radioplayer model..

01-06-2013, 13:38	#1
MeMeMeI Inactive Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 943	With the launch of YouView should Arqiva considerd relaunching SeeSaw With the launch of YouView should Arqiva considerd relaunching the SeeSaw TV service or find partners to re-launch SeeSaw on YouView?

04-06-2013, 17:58	#2
cdon77 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 458	er.........No

04-06-2013, 18:14	#3
VisionMan1 Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,107	Why on earth would they want to do that?

09-06-2013, 00:02	#4
MeMeMeI Inactive Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 943	Why not ? VOD is taking off

09-06-2013, 02:10	#5
TVPaulD Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 120	Yeah but SeeSaw never did anything particularly notable and was virtually ignored in the marketplace. Hard to see Arqiva managing to compete any better the second time around.

09-06-2013, 07:48	#6
technologist Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 7,519	As a Content provider would you want to go through an aggregator like See-saw to access a platform like you view when you can do it yourself(Easily). See saw and Kangaroo made a lot of sense when they would be the only/ a leading platform - but now that there are others there ..... is there much point.... (and or is a technology company the right way of doing it ??)

10-06-2013, 13:57	#7
alcockell Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 23,357	Isn't what Youview offers a common client spec as opposed to a common content client application? Best of both worlds would have probably been a reference device AND reference playback application; instead of a reference device running multiple playback clients... and "competition" between them.. As opposed to best-of-breed at each layer... Youview done right would have been... Reference hardware (Youview box) - defined to... TV App Layer (recently opened under Apache licence by BBC) iPlayer client used as codebase for a Youview playback client, either opened or licensed liberally to allow recompilation to run anywhere - this was the basis for Seesaw. (iPlayer beign best of breed) On the server side - open-licensed iPlayer playout infrastructure... Rather than different clients playing in a common frame. Effectively rebadge the best-of-breed and you have the wide reach enabled through the open layers... become the PAL-I of TV IP playout...

10-06-2013, 18:19	#8
VisionMan1 Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,107	Quote: Originally Posted by alcockell Isn't what Youview offers a common client spec as opposed to a common content client application? Best of both worlds would have probably been a reference device AND reference playback application; instead of a reference device running multiple playback clients... and "competition" between them.. As opposed to best-of-breed at each layer... Youview done right would have been... Reference hardware (Youview box) - defined to... TV App Layer (recently opened under Apache licence by BBC) iPlayer client used as codebase for a Youview playback client, either opened or licensed liberally to allow recompilation to run anywhere - this was the basis for Seesaw. (iPlayer beign best of breed) On the server side - open-licensed iPlayer playout infrastructure... Rather than different clients playing in a common frame. Effectively rebadge the best-of-breed and you have the wide reach enabled through the open layers... become the PAL-I of TV IP playout... It was my understanding the above is the way YouView was meant to be. With the BBC iPlayer Team writing all the coding for each PSB's content selection and thereby improving the vastly inferior ITV Player to boot. Only the PSB's said no, because they 'wanted their own identity'. Pfft, if true. And I'll throw in an allegedly, too.

10-06-2013, 22:34	#9
alcockell Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 23,357	Quote: Originally Posted by VisionMan1 It was my understanding the above is the way YouView was meant to be. With the BBC iPlayer Team writing all the coding for each PSB's content selection and thereby improving the vastly inferior ITV Player to boot. Only the PSB's said no, because they 'wanted their own identity'. Pfft, if true. And I'll throw in an allegedly, too. Could have easily been skinned differently or borrow from the Radioplayer model..

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