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But then you also have to appreciate that for millions of viewers that sort of schedule is their idea of a bad day out. Speaking personally I would rather have my teeth out than endure all that. Why should the schedules be totally disrupted for all of that? BBC should have a dedicated sports channel now the country is fully digital and give the rest of us a break - in SD of course.
![]() Earlier you said "how did people cope with a 12" monochrome TV" - so how did you cope when tennis/sport was on and there were only 4/5 channels? I could understand the argument if there were still only 4/5 channels, but not with multichannel TV, it's not as if there's only the one branded channel, two in the case of the BBC, there are supporting channels available, there's even catch up/on demand available on certain platforms. Can't believe someone can't find something to watch with the quantity of channels/media available, it's even easier if you have a single/ twin tuner pvr to record/store content for when one considers there is nothing on worth watching - and if you can't, surely someone can find something else of interest to do. |
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Not forgetting our Scott in the Moto2 race.
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But then you also have to appreciate that for millions of viewers that sort of schedule is their idea of a bad day out. Speaking personally I would rather have my teeth out than endure all that.
![]() http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing/weekly-top-30?_s=4 I didn't watch a single programme in the top 30 for BBC 1 apart from the news. I watched/recorded about 7 programmes in BBC2's top 30. I recorded one film in ITV's top 30. I only watched the Returned on CH4. Nothing on SD 5.
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#304 |
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Of course not, we're watching our Scott now.
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I'll throw your argument back at you here....
![]() Earlier you said "how did people cope with a 12" monochrome TV" - so how did you cope when tennis/sport was on and there were only 4/5 channels? I could understand the argument if there were still only 4/5 channels, but not with multichannel TV, it's not as if there's only the one branded channel, two in the case of the BBC, there are supporting channels available, there's even catch up/on demand available on certain platforms. Can't believe someone can't find something to watch with the quantity of channels/media available, it's even easier if you have a single/ twin tuner pvr to record/store content for when one considers there is nothing on worth watching - and if you can't, surely someone can find something else of interest to do. The numpty announcer announces all breathy and excited that X sporting event will continue on BBC1 so y&z has been cancelled, at which point most of the country gives a collective groan. |
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This issue was featured on POV the other week - there was the usual condescending answer from a senior BBC exec or 'god' as they liked to be known as. When asked why they had to switch from BBC2 to BBC1 just because a match was reaching its climax/overrunning this was the reply. BBC is our flagship channel and as such it's only proper that the viewer should be treated to the best from the BBC (or something akin to this). Do the BBC think the viewer incapable of either switching channels or actually staying on the channel they are watching?
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I will throw it back to you. The point I make is that programmes are often cancelled where the viewer might have been really looking forward to them. This is often done with no notice whatsoever, leaving the viewer with Hobson's choice.
The numpty announcer announces all breathy and excited that X sporting event will continue on BBC1 so y&z has been cancelled, at which point most of the country gives a collective groan. ![]() That's the problem with live sport, you have to accept the unexpected. Makes a change from the usual moan I suppose, they broadcast free sport but it's still not good enough - goes to show, you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please everyone all of the time.
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Not heard the nation groaning myself, can this be heard from say, an open window.
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There's none as deaf as those who don't want to hear.
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If the audience for things like Murray drops like a stone by the simple switch to BBC2 then shifting all sport to a dedicated sports channel would leave the country baffled. I really don't think it's possible to under-estimate the stupidity of the English viewing public taken at population level, which is why BBC1 carries on with the tennis and shovels The One Show over to BBC2. The tennis fans and Murray fans will find it wherever it is, but the casual viewer won't. Figures bear this out.
BTW I don't recall any programmes being suddenly cancelled, just moved or not shown during Wimbledon - Pointless for example. |
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Just moved is enough to screw up a planned recording. Turning it round I don't recall any programmes being displaced (rather than just delayed) at the last minute to make way for any other sport (other than the obvious throaway fillers).
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Just moved is enough to screw up a planned recording. Turning it round I don't recall any programmes being displaced (rather than just delayed) at the last minute to make way for any other sport (other than the obvious throaway fillers).
BTW Gomezz you weren't driving your truck through Buckingham yesterday afternoon were you? I had a lovely tow on my bike from the Tesco roundabout past Badger Way, up the ar$e end of a juggernaut. |
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If only such a mechanism included all the broadcast TV which I wanted to watch. But it doesn't, MotoGP quali being my exhibit number 1.
Wasn't me guv. I was in Bicester all afternoon after starting off going into town down London Road. |
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Me too. Bicester's great.
Was Motogp Q1 dropped because of tennis then? I'm surprised at that. |
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MotoGP quali is always first for the chop if there is too much sport to fit on the Red Button. You can still watch it online but only live, it *never* appears on iPlayer.
(Bicester's great? I must have missed a bit. )
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BTW I don't recall any programmes being suddenly cancelled, just moved or not shown during Wimbledon - Pointless for example.
Regional News programmes were cancelled the other night for tennis ![]() How much does it cost to spend the entire day putting together a 30 minute regional magazine programme? I would be pretty fed up if all my work for the day came to naught. |
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Regional News programmes were cancelled the other night for tennis
![]() How much does it cost to spend the entire day putting together a 30 minute regional magazine programme? I would be pretty fed up if all my work for the day came to naught. So what was going to be shown can wait! |
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[quote=Faust;66871466]Regional News programmes were cancelled the other night for tennis
QUOTE]Only in your eyes. Not for the millions who were glued to the tennis. |
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A lot of the stuff on the regional news can be time-shifted. On numerous occasions in the NW the reporter presenting outside is in the pouring rain, when the day broadcast was actually sunny! So clearly recorded on another day, and the piece used as and when.
So what was going to be shown can wait! |
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...they simply cancelled the entire 30 minute programme for that rich boys game - total disgrace...
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That's those of us that like tennis sorted then, in your usual inimitable style.
Incidentally, how many times has the BBC in the past been criticised for cutting short its live sports broadcasts when they have overrun? It should be applauded for giving us first class coverage of Wimbledon and helping keep this world famous tournament off pay tv. Wimbledon brings in substantial overseas money into the UK each year and invests tens of millions of pounds annually in funding the sport across the population, including many inner-city initiatives. |
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Faust simply cannot accept that he is very much in the minority on this point, both on this and his other posts on this thread.
Incidentally, how many times has the BBC in the past been criticised for cutting short its live sports broadcasts when they have overrun? It should be applauded for giving us first class coverage of Wimbledon and helping keep this world famous tournament off pay tv. Wimbledon brings in substantial overseas money into the UK each year and invests tens of millions of pounds annually in funding the sport across the population, including many inner-city initiatives. You quote the reason for its continued broadcast being the money it brings in for reinvestment including inner-city initiatives. Yet here we are some seventy odd years on still looking for a mens singles champion. So how many kids from deprived inner-city areas do you think can conceive of a career on the tennis circuit then? |
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That's those of us that like tennis sorted then, in your usual inimitable style.
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The point being they simply cancelled the entire 30 minute programme for that rich boys game - total disgrace.
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Apparently 20 million viewers watched the final on BBC TV yesterday. Discuss.
We had the spectre of a British Prime Minister applauding a UK winner and Alex Salmond waving the Scottish flag for a Scotsman. |
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