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Emma Willis- Am I the only one who doesn't buy the hype
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stephen_cheever
04-06-2013
You think cause she's the new presenter that all the problems BB C5 has had will all go away. She's a step up from Brian but she's not exactly the queen of the presenters herself.

She has the exact same problems later day Davina had (she loves the fake romances and she's very pro towards her favourites) plus I don't think she be able to control that rabid crowd. What I've seen of her on her own presenting I've not been impressed.

Am I the only one who's not all that convinced she be any better?
Salv*
04-06-2013
I think the hype is because of the way she presents. I know the BOTS lot are much smaller than the crowd, but she controls them very, very well. And the fact she is a big BB fan can help her a lot in controlling the crowd. Also, the guy who was in charge of the live shows is gone (he encouraged the booing and the campness), so it may help.

Also as a main presenter, she can't think the same as when she was a BOTS presenter. She can't have opinions like the ones she had on BOTS, so I doubt she will take sides while presenting.
RabidWolverine1
04-06-2013
I know 99% of this forum would disagree with me about this BUT...Davina was perfect for Big Brother.

She is also a big part of the reason why Brian failed and why Emma will struggle. Although this forum seem to have it in for Davina the fact is she fronted the show for a decade. Any presenter hosting a show for that long is freakin incredible. She loved the show and yes she did tow the company line a bit but she was charismatic and seemed a perfect fit.

Brian's main obstacle was that he was naturally going to be compared to Davina. Brian was not a bad presenter but Davina was better and synonomus with Big Brother. Emma will still be compared but she has the advantage of Brian Dowling as a buffer between her and Davina.

Emma is however more charismatic and you can tell she loves BB like Davina did.

Don't get me wrong, Davina is not my favourite presenter but the fact that she left the show when it finished on Channel 4 still has an effect on the franchise especially for the casual viewer.
stephen_cheever
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“I know 99% of this forum would disagree with me about this BUT...Davina was perfect for Big Brother.

She is also a big part of the reason why Brian failed and why Emma will struggle. Although this forum seem to have it in for Davina the fact is she fronted the show for a decade. Any presenter hosting a show for that long is freakin incredible. She loved the show and yes she did tow the company line a bit but she was charismatic and seemed a perfect fit.

Brian's main obstacle was that he was naturally going to be compared to Davina. Brian was not a bad presenter but Davina was better and synonomus with Big Brother. Emma will still be compared but she has the advantage of Brian Dowling as a buffer between her and Davina.

Emma is however more charismatic and you can tell she loves BB like Davina did.

Don't get me wrong, Davina is not my favourite presenter but the fact that she left the show when it finished on Channel 4 still has an effect on the franchise especially for the casual viewer.”

When Davina was on Song she was really great but after BB7 you just felt like most of the nation did,She just really didn't like BB anymore. If her Talk show on BBC1 didn't flop I think she should have quit after BB8, go out on a high. It would have been a good time to go.

But sadly it didn't happen, her downfall like the show was sad to see. It was clear to see from BB9 to BB11 she clearly didn't watch the show half the time, her favouritism became more upfront (BB11 Josie as an example, even she berated her Favourite HM of all time Nadia on UBB over saying JJJ relationship was fake) and her dislike for certain Housemates (BB9 winner Rachel is a perfect example). Her interviewing became very weak and is up there with the worse of Brian during BB12/13. She deserves her criticisms and it has ruined her a little.

Emma needs to have her own stamp on BB though been a Davina-lite is no good for her or the show. I just don't think she was the right choice they should have gone for someone new.
Joe_Zel
04-06-2013
I don't think people believe Emma will miraculously fix the shows problems.

It's just a sign that the producers are recognising the problems and attempting to fix them. Brian being replaced by Emma is one of these things. If they apply that to all the other problems it's a step in the right direction. Emma isn't perfect, but she's hired as a TV presenter and not a former housemate (although with Rylan onboard it's like 1 step forward and 3 steps back).
stephen_cheever
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by Joe_Zel:
“I don't think people believe Emma will miraculously fix the shows problems.

It's just a sign that the producers are recognising the problems and attempting to fix them. Brian being replaced by Emma is one of these things. If they apply that to all the other problems it's a step in the right direction. Emma isn't perfect, but she's hired as a TV presenter and not a former housemate (although with Rylan onboard it's like 1 step forward and 3 steps back).”

That's what I'm saying she's a half decent presenter. The show needs someone of top quality (lets be honest C5 can never get that). I agree they shouldn't have got an ex HM to present it was a gamble that didn't pay off. Emma is a tiny step up but they need more then that. That's just my opinion.

Yeah they never really had a good second team since Russell Brand and Dermot O'Leary left. They either get non fans who mock the show or wannabes.
MiniMeToo
04-06-2013
I can't stand her, never have and never will...
fredster
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by stephen_cheever:
“You think cause she's the new presenter that all the problems BB C5 has had will all go away. She's a step up from Brian but she's not exactly the queen of the presenters herself.

She has the exact same problems later day Davina had (she loves the fake romances and she's very pro towards her favourites) plus I don't think she be able to control that rabid crowd. What I've seen of her on her own presenting I've not been impressed.

Am I the only one who's not all that convinced she be any better?”

Totally agree, she is not only the presenter, she is hosting bit on the side,too much for her with her bias and silly laugh. She is also on a morning show, when do her kids ever see her?
happybbfan
04-06-2013
cant judge her yet as she hasnt started the job
but i hope she isn't Davina 2
qwertyell
04-06-2013
Doesn't make any difference to me who hosts. The brief Friday night eviction interviews are always insufficient and seemingly the presenter's contribution to the questioning doesn't veer far from repeating what is said into their earpiece and trying to wrap the whole thing up as quickly as possible.

Could be Brian, could be Emma, could be an inanimate carbon rod - won't be the deal breaker either way should the actual nuts and bolts of the show (the house and housemates) fail to be up to scratch.
James Frederick
04-06-2013
Can't stand the woman I'm not going to watch the going in evictions or finals if she's on it I'll just watch the other shows
stephen_cheever
04-06-2013
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has doubts on her.
For me its more to do with the fact many BB fans on the forums think she's going to save the show and be Davina 2.0.

I think she's going to run into the same problems Brian had but we wait and see what happens.
Sun Tzu.
04-06-2013
What is not to stand about her? Nice woman, great looking.
stephen_cheever
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“What is not to stand about her? Nice woman, great looking.”

Get a Loaded or Nuts magazine if you want that. No one isn't saying she's a horrible person. Just she's not the great presenter many have her down as. I hope I'm proved wrong but I can't see her changing a thing.
Dancc
04-06-2013
I disagree with your assertion that she isn't a great presenter. Who would you class as a "great presenter" exactly ? When it comes to entertainment you have Ant and Dec firmly at the top of the tree and then below that everyone's much of a muchness. But I don't rate some of the big primetime presenters at all, namely:

Vernon Kay (Family Fortunes)
Alex Jones (The One Show)
Rick Edwards (BBC Three)
Nick Grimshaw (BBC Three)
Myleene Klass (Various)
Claudia Winkleman (Strictly/Film 2013)
Steve Jones (Let's Dance)
George Lamb (The Bank Job)

I wouldn't swap Emma for any of those, who is far superior at her job than the names listed, which manage to hold down big presenting gigs okay.

In any case, I think it's possible that we're overstating how difficult it is to present Big Brother. Just because Brian made a meal of it doesn't mean Emma will. Anyone with a fair amount of live TV experience should be able to cope with the show's demands, and Emma has that.

I think she'll be great. Nobody I know has a bad word to say about her !
John Dough
04-06-2013
However much it's spun Emma is taking over a sinking ship.:sleep:
I was sad to see the programme end on Channel 4 but given the way it had been trashed and devalued by the producers over ten years on air in hindsight it was the right time to call it a day and consign it to the past.

Channel 5's approach to the programme has merely reinforced the problems that were already destroying the concept in its latter years on Channel 4. The stench of putrification is now overwhelming.:sleep:
Dancc
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by John Dough:
“However much it's spun Emma is taking over a sinking ship.:sleep:
I was sad to see the programme end on Channel 4 but given the way it had been trashed and devalued by the producers over ten years on air in hindsight it was the right time to call it a day and consign it to the past.”

Ratings have stabilised with the last series of CBB rating about the same as the season before and ditto with BB. So not "sinking" at all actually John. It has settled down on C5 and its rating at a level that they are happy with. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way when opinions are just as good.
John Dough
04-06-2013
If people are content with mediocre rubbish then good luck to them.:sleep:
Millions of people watch Dr Who for some bewildering reason too.
Dancc
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by John Dough:
“If people are content with mediocre rubbish then good luck to them.:sleep:
Millions of people watch Dr Who for some bewildering reason too.”

I'm in agreement with you there (on Dr Who).
Plenty of the series of BB broadcast on C4 were mediocre too. I have no general complaints with C5's handling of the show now Brian is gone.
Danslink
04-06-2013
I couldn't envision anyone else presenting the programme other than Emma at this point.
Sun Tzu.
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by John Dough:
“However much it's spun Emma is taking over a sinking ship.:sleep:
I was sad to see the programme end on Channel 4 but given the way it had been trashed and devalued by the producers over ten years on air in hindsight it was the right time to call it a day and consign it to the past.

Channel 5's approach to the programme has merely reinforced the problems that were already destroying the concept in its latter years on Channel 4. The stench of putrification is now overwhelming.:sleep:”

Living in the past John to be honest. Its not 2003 any more.
lightdragon
04-06-2013
I dunno.

I wasn't overly excited by the news of her taking over as main presenter, I've always felt she was suited for a BBLB return, she's perfect for mid afternoon. I love that she's a fan, so I'm willing to give her a chance, but without getting rid of the baying crowd I don't see anything changing.

Then again I'm flummoxed as to who else I would've put in her place, she was basically the only option, without causing forum meltdowns. I might've opted for Vanessa Feltz, just because the post eviccy interviews would be amazing (and the sound of people bursting bloodvessels would be funny).
livefeed24/7now
04-06-2013
if only channel 5 could have got davina to stay on
but it seems that was never going to happen

too many changes by channel 5 ,some forced on them but some were errors

looks like channel 5 are still trying to improve the show which i guess is something positive to focus on

'the proof of the pudding is in the eating'
patsylimerick
04-06-2013
She's very much a latter day Davina - squeeing over the fauxmances and siding with the lowest common denominator housemates. She sticks aggressively to the party-line and I find her a bit vacuous. She's certainly very pretty to look at, but there's just something about her that prevents me from warming to her. I'll reserve judgement, however, on this decision until I see her in action.

Contrary to the received wisdom - and though I fully agree that Brian is to an autocue what I am to right-handed tin openers - I actually thought that some of the more contentious housemates were given a much better grilling by Brian than they ever were by Emma on BOTS.
stephen_cheever
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by lightdragon:
“I dunno.

I wasn't overly excited by the news of her taking over as main presenter, I've always felt she was suited for a BBLB return, she's perfect for mid afternoon. I love that she's a fan, so I'm willing to give her a chance, but without getting rid of the baying crowd I don't see anything changing.

Then again I'm flummoxed as to who else I would've put in her place, she was basically the only option, without causing forum meltdowns. I might've opted for Vanessa Feltz, just because the post eviccy interviews would be amazing (and the sound of people bursting bloodvessels would be funny). ”

I agree she's a good second string presenter on side shows for BB but main Presenter, I just don't think she be able to deal with an interview if say she had to deal with another Shilpa kind of case. She's far too nice and I can't see her probing too many of the bad guys. That's the problem Channel 5 is a step back for many presenters working for bigger British Media companies like ITV or BBC, I would have loved Dermot O'Leary to come back. But I doubt he touch BB now.
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