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Big Brother 1- How does it hold up now?
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SG-1
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by themrdanjames:
“For some reason SG-1 seems to think all they did talk about was record and book deals but that was nothing compared to todays standards.

They were just everyday people.

Andy was a marketing product manager

Anna was an office manager originally

Caroline was unemployed at the time of the series, but had previously worked as a mortgage consultant, telephonist, special constable for West Midlands Police

Craig was a builder.

Claire worked in her mothers flower shop

Melanie was a computer systems salesperson

Nicola was an artist, art teacher and barmaid

Tom worked on a farm.

I believe Sada was a waitress but also did art aswell.

Now we get housemates who have been in movies, released singles and modelled for various magazines.”

Lets look closer at last years HMs.
Ignoring the nonsense about modelling in magazines which is as vague as you can get in terms of being known..my friend who models for catalogues thought it was amusing to think she was already famous or not ordinary,lets concentrate on hms with record deals,or been on tv before..hms from BB13.
Lets start with Lydia..you take it from there
SG-1
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by themrdanjames:
“Just because Jade issues received the highest sales doesn't mean the magazine deals for housemates hadn't "took off" though.

BB1 created the zelebrity culture with housemates from BB1 literally turned into household names.

Most of the housemates made a lot of money from newspaper, magazine deals and tv interviews with numerous contestants even having their own tv shows.”

No.

Andy did not become a household name because heat had a circulation less than 100,000 .

Who are these tv successes from BB1?
Craig,his tv stints started 1 year after BB1 and at that point it was a little known d.i.y show.
So which other HM got a TV show a year on from BB1?
Nicks stint at tv ( other than odd interviews was later i think )

Which BB1 HMs had a magazine deal beyond a snapshot and very short piece?
SG-1
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by iKris:
“Nick was way ahead of his time. Without him, I think it would have taken several more series to get HMs who were such great game players.”

Absolutely right.

And you know people claim that BB did not manipulate in the early series but does anyone really believe no editor,cameraman or producer saw nick cheating?
themrdanjames
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by SG-1:
“No.

Andy did not become a household name because heat had a circulation less than 100,000 .

Who are these tv successes from BB1?
Craig,his tv stints started 1 year after BB1 and at that point it was a little known d.i.y show.
So which other HM got a TV show a year on from BB1?
Nicks stint at tv ( other than odd interviews was later i think )

Which BB1 HMs had a magazine deal beyond a snapshot and very short piece?”

Craig has not been off our screens since his BB stint and is currently worth 15 million.

Examples of his work:

Phillips has now presented as 'resident expert' on a large number of televisions shows across the globe including Housecall (live daily morning show), BBC 1, Housecall in the Country, BBC 1, Builders Sweat and Tears, BBC 1 & UK Style, Our House, UK Style, Trading Up, BBC 1 & UK Style, Big Strong Boys, BBC 1 & UK Style, Boyz In The Wood (2 x 10 part carpentry series) Discovery Realtime, Big Strong Boys In The Sun (Europe), BBC 1, Renovation Street, ITV1 & Discovery Realtime, Sex and the City (Series 4 - Episode 7 (USA) NBC,Trading Up In The Sun (Europe) BBC 1, House Trap, BBC 1 and Craig’s Trade Tips, BBC 1.

He also has a production company called Avent Productions.[3] For Avent he has presented the programmes Conversion a 10 part series for Discovery Realtime and the sixth series of Hung, Drawn & Quartered, a 6 part series filmed worldwide for British Forces Broadcasting Service. The company also produces corporate productions many of these for building companies.





Craig Phillips teaching DIY
In 2007 Phillips joined the team of 60 Minute Makeover for ITV1. He completed 80 shows in 2008, the first 40 of these aired in late 2008 with a further 40 airing throughout Spring 2009.

February 2009 saw Phillips appear in Ant & Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway in "Escape from Takeaway Prison" for six weeks.

Summer 2009 saw the release of his autobiography with Bantam Press (A division of Transworld). On 29 May 2009, he talked to Petrie Hosken on LBC (London's Biggest Conversation - 97.3 FM) about his time in BB1 and how lots of wannabe's are now entering Big Brother


He hosted his own show again in 2011 for "Home".

In April 2011, he hosted a show called Celebrity DIY with Craig Phillips for Home. In 2011, he also became an ambassador for Ryobi. In June 2011 he also hosted If It's Broke, Fit It for Home.

Your opinions are really only partially based on facts. You need to do a little bit more digging.

Melanie Hill presented 2 series of "Chained" and Nick also fronted his own show.

Im not saying people got deals that lasted longer than BB1? I don't know what point you are trying to make?

Andy was a household name during the summer of 2000 as all of the housemates were. That's a fact seeing as I remember everyone in school and their parents and the papers reporting on them daily.

They were front page news and didn't just have 1 magazine interview they were papped constantly after the show and were paid ALOT for tv appearences and mags.

Just read interviews with them from Narinders book.
SG-1
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by themrdanjames:
“Craig has not been off our screens since his BB stint and is currently worth 15 million.

Examples of his work:

Phillips has now presented as 'resident expert' on a large number of televisions shows across the globe including Housecall (live daily morning show), BBC 1, Housecall in the Country, BBC 1, Builders Sweat and Tears, BBC 1 & UK Style, Our House, UK Style, Trading Up, BBC 1 & UK Style, Big Strong Boys, BBC 1 & UK Style, Boyz In The Wood (2 x 10 part carpentry series) Discovery Realtime, Big Strong Boys In The Sun (Europe), BBC 1, Renovation Street, ITV1 & Discovery Realtime, Sex and the City (Series 4 - Episode 7 (USA) NBC,Trading Up In The Sun (Europe) BBC 1, House Trap, BBC 1 and Craig’s Trade Tips, BBC 1.

He also has a production company called Avent Productions.[3] For Avent he has presented the programmes Conversion a 10 part series for Discovery Realtime and the sixth series of Hung, Drawn & Quartered, a 6 part series filmed worldwide for British Forces Broadcasting Service. The company also produces corporate productions many of these for building companies.





Craig Phillips teaching DIY
In 2007 Phillips joined the team of 60 Minute Makeover for ITV1. He completed 80 shows in 2008, the first 40 of these aired in late 2008 with a further 40 airing throughout Spring 2009.

February 2009 saw Phillips appear in Ant & Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway in "Escape from Takeaway Prison" for six weeks.

Summer 2009 saw the release of his autobiography with Bantam Press (A division of Transworld). On 29 May 2009, he talked to Petrie Hosken on LBC (London's Biggest Conversation - 97.3 FM) about his time in BB1 and how lots of wannabe's are now entering Big Brother


He hosted his own show again in 2011 for "Home".

In April 2011, he hosted a show called Celebrity DIY with Craig Phillips for Home. In 2011, he also became an ambassador for Ryobi. In June 2011 he also hosted If It's Broke, Fit It for Home.

Your opinions are really only partially based on facts. You need to do a little bit more digging.

Melanie Hill presented 2 series of "Chained" and Nick also fronted his own show.


Im not saying people got deals that lasted longer than BB1? I don't know what point you are trying to make?”

I didnt miss nick out..i clearly posted
Nicks stint at tv ( other than odd interviews was later i think )

The point is very simple.
BB1 did not make these people household names ( im curious what you consider a household name considering most people would never have even heard of chained ).

What helped BB1 HMs was the hype created by heat during the middle of BB2 and ending up with serious mag deals by BB3.
Craig did not leave the house and be offered a job on tv till a year later,he got it when the interest was being hightened during BB2s series..all those details you put up are long after BB1 and so not offers of tv work on the back of the first series but more likely on the back of the success of BB2 and 3 and because the mags like heat had set up a new type of zeleb to gossip about during BB2 and BB3.
SG-1
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by themrdanjames:
“Andy was a household name during the summer of 2000 as all of the housemates were. That's a fact seeing as I remember everyone in school and their parents and the papers reporting on them daily.

They were front page news and didn't just have 1 magazine interview they were papped constantly after the show and were paid ALOT for tv appearences and mags.

Just read interviews with them from Narinders book.”

There you go with the term household name again.
I repeat heats circulation then was under 100,000.

Define household name.
Heres a definition
Noun

household name (plural household names)[LIST=1][*]A brand name that is well known to the great majority of households.[*]A genericized trademark.[*](idiomatic) A very well-known public figure.[/LIST]
patsylimerick
04-06-2013
'Nasty Nick' was all over Sky News and all of the major dailies in England for days on end. Household name? At the time? Absolutely
iKris
04-06-2013
How the hell is Craig worth £15 million?
SG-1
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“'Nasty Nick' was all over Sky News and all of the major dailies in England for days on end. Household name? At the time? Absolutely”

Yes Nick had massive media coverage at the time but only because he cheated.
He didnt get a tv show till many years later.

I dont think anyone would deny the coverage BB1 got over nasty nick but thats quite different to what Im talking about regarding tv shows offered on the back of the show.

Im sure if Darren had bitten the head off marjory he would also have had the type of coverage nick had.
patsylimerick
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by SG-1:
“Yes Nick had massive media coverage at the time but only because he cheated.
He didnt get a tv show till many years later.

I dont think anyone would deny the coverage BB1 got over nasty nick but thats quite different to what Im talking about regarding tv shows offered on the back of the show.

Im sure if Darren had bitten the head off marjory he would also have had the type of coverage nick had. ”

Wash your mouth out!

Marjorie and Darren were my favouritest BB romance ever.
SG-1
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“ Wash your mouth out!

Marjorie and Darren were my favouritest BB romance ever. ”

Hahaha
Now on that I think we will all agree on
secrethousemate
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by SG-1:
“Yes Nick had massive media coverage at the time but only because he cheated.
He didnt get a tv show till many years later.”

What about this then? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HavNWcOyos
themrdanjames
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by SG-1:
“There you go with the term household name again.
I repeat heats circulation then was under 100,000.

Define household name.
Heres a definition
Noun

household name (plural household names)[LIST=1][*]A brand name that is well known to the great majority of households.
[*]A genericized trademark.[*](idiomatic) A very well-known public figure.[/LIST]”

Yes the housemates were well known to a large number of households lol.

They were watched and known by millions of people all over the country and on a 24 hour live stream.

Meaning they were at the time household names.

DUH!
themrdanjames
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by secrethousemate:
“What about this then? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HavNWcOyos”

Exactly.

SG-1 doesn't know what hes talking about.

Just spouting off random supposed facts that are completely ficticious.

BB1 housemates were huge in 2000 and DID get tv shows, book deals and magazine deals.

*Bangs head against table.
themrdanjames
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by iKris:
“How the hell is Craig worth £15 million?”

Literally appeared on hundreds of episodes of tv and has his own businesses ect.
SG-1
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by secrethousemate:
“What about this then? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HavNWcOyos”

Seriously.
You consider this to be a tv show that makes him a household name..are you taking the pish
If you read all the posts i did say i didnt think it was till later .
its very hard to find any solid details on that show..did it even last past a few episodes?
good find but around midnight on ch4..who knew about it?
people can skirt around it all they want BB1 HMs did not become household names till much later.( nicks exception as mentioned below )
id love to see the vieiwing figures and details of that show.

Incidentally Nick had been on TV before BB.
He worked for ATN Channel 7 in Sydney, Australia on "Sons and Daughters" "Romper Room" and "Newsworld"
This was long before BB so the idea BB1 had no people who had been on tv is a myth..shock horror.
Nick is in fact a very awkward situation to analyse in terms of what we were talking about which was tv shows that made them household names..i accept he certainly became a household name but only because of the media fury..if thats to be included then fair dos but i was talking of the type of fame craig found on tv in later years.
SG-1
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by themrdanjames:
“Exactly.

SG-1 doesn't know what hes talking about.

Just spouting off random supposed facts that are completely ficticious.

BB1 housemates were huge in 2000 and DID get tv shows, book deals and magazine deals.

*Bangs head against table.”

You know what..that type of post does not deserve any further responses .
It doesnt do you or your arguement any favours.
themrdanjames
04-06-2013
Originally Posted by SG-1:
“You know what..that type of post does not deserve any further responses .
It doesnt do you or your arguement any favours.”

What?

You were proven wrong on various so called facts ie: Nick not having a tv show and this is your comeback?

Lose with dignity lol.
rsefitpro07
04-06-2013
Big Brother 1 was new, it was the first ever one, no one knew anything about the show, it got us all hooked.

It was simple, basic, and the formula worked. The problem is that their have been so many Big Brothers since that we all know whats going to happen next!

They must have done every twist,and tried every thing to liven the show up.
BumbleSquat
04-06-2013
Yes, the footage that was in the ''highlight'' shows would be considered mind-numbingly dull by today's standards but the whole voyeuristic concept of the show was still a massive novelty for viewers back in 2000. Enough so that people would avidly watch a dodgy internet stream from the Channel 4 website just to watch Darren wash the dishes!

For a short time the BB1 housemates DID become household names. Nick's cheating and subsequent removal gained the show massive media coverage. He was even photographed at the premiere of Snatch with Guy Richie and Brad Pitt at that time! Of course, with any series their 'star power' dropped quickly but 3 housemates got their own TV shows, 2 got record deals to release a single and others made money with TV work and PA's.

The attention these housemates got whilst in the house was a template many subsequent applicants of the show wanted to be part of. They knew BB1 housemates made cash and got exposure. Unfortunately, by the time BB2 came around the BB1 housemates were dried up has-beens on the zelebrity circuit. We all remember those embarrassing pap photos of Nicola and Caroline falling on their arses with Vanessa Feltz at some TV award show afterparty. BB celebrities were already considered a joke before a year had passed. Nobody was interested in seeing Caroline at a premiere. It was cringe-worthy! What made viewers like these people in the first place was the relationships they had with the others in the house during that summer. Nothing else.

However, what makes BB stand out from the others is of course its naivety. They all thought at best that it would be a cult late night programme on Channel 4 which, in 2000, was known as a niche channel. None of these people expected it to be a success and were obviously stunned when they were evicted to see their faces in all the tabloids. A lot of the entertainment from every other series has been the lack of awareness when it comes to the celebrity liftstyle these housemates actually believe they'll have when they leave. It's hilariously sad in a way.
secrethousemate
05-06-2013
Originally Posted by SG-1:
“Seriously.
You consider this to be a tv show that makes him a household name..are you taking the pish
If you read all the posts i did say i didnt think it was till later .
its very hard to find any solid details on that show..did it even last past a few episodes?
good find but around midnight on ch4..who knew about it?
people can skirt around it all they want BB1 HMs did not become household names till much later.( nicks exception as mentioned below )
id love to see the vieiwing figures and details of that show.

Incidentally Nick had been on TV before BB.
He worked for ATN Channel 7 in Sydney, Australia on "Sons and Daughters" "Romper Room" and "Newsworld"
This was long before BB so the idea BB1 had no people who had been on tv is a myth..shock horror.
Nick is in fact a very awkward situation to analyse in terms of what we were talking about which was tv shows that made them household names..i accept he certainly became a household name but only because of the media fury..if thats to be included then fair dos but i was talking of the type of fame craig found on tv in later years.”

I'm not arguing against your claims, just pointing out he DID do a TV show just a few weeks after coming out of the house. It was indeed, fairly small beer and wasn't very good either but I did watch all the episodes (about 3 I think).
Incidentally I don't think Craig found as much 'fame' from minor appearances as a DIY expert as he did by winning the show. for most of them it was a brief flurry of opportunities and then virtual obscurity. A few bucked that trend, including Craig, Nick and Anna.
Pointy
05-06-2013
BB1 was amazing. I was never an Anna fan, she was far more devious than some realised. All the housemates were there for fame, fortune and/or a media career. It was clearly covered in the BB1 book.
disneylover
05-06-2013
I didn't see the first one at all, because it was new and I didn't know what it was, I did catch the odd 5 min hl and didn't like it, but from bb2 I was hooked, I think I might go and watch the first one, I did her about nasty nick but never watched.
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