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Format changes - destined to fail?
So it looked like we've to intimate auditions, then they do arena auditions, then bootcamp, then judges houses.. isn't that just overkill?
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I read somewhere that the bootcamp stage is where they'll use arenas. Not Arena auditions and then bootcamp, correct me if I'm wrong?
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That and revamps to shows never succeed. Look at Dancing On Ice, has made several revamps to the format in recent years and now it's getting axed!
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That and revamps to shows never succeed. Look at Dancing On Ice, has made several revamps to the format in recent years and now it's getting axed!
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Dancing On Ice was canned because it was pants.
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I read somewhere that the bootcamp stage is where they'll use arenas. Not Arena auditions and then bootcamp, correct me if I'm wrong?
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I swear there's never been any change to Dancing On Ice whatsoever
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I think the arena auditions will just be the new first stage of bootcamp.
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Arena auditions are just new bootcamp.
They are welcome changes tbh. Last years auditions were boring and bootcamp in particular has always been the dullest period of the show. I'm looking forward to acapella auditions, it will be easier to figure out who can actually sing from an early stage. Should cut down on novelty acts too who skate through the early rounds on their 'stage presence' |
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really glad the intimate auditions are back, I always preferred it, and you get to see the judges emotions towards the contestants more.
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hoping the audition changes will see fewer acts like rylan make it thru as the judges are less likely to be influenced by how the audience reacts to someone with a big personality but cant sing
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The intimate auditions are sooooo much better, the arena ones doe smy head in as if they think someone is good they let them perform the whole freakin song, whereas the accapella ones you get to see alot more and it moves much quicker, plus you dont have to look at the cringe worthy clips that have been added in from the audience pulling gobsmacked faces at parts from a different singer.
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i believe and i do keep saying it is that sharon's return to x factor is to bring back the viewers who switch over to BBC 1 and i do believe that, Not just to do with the 10th season of uk x factor
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Horse flogging dead a
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Horse flogging dead a
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The idea of the intimate auditions, is that the weak singers have nowhere to hide. The one thing they do need to change, is the cutting of 60-odd contestants at bootcamp before they've even sung, as we saw in the last two series which was beyond ridiculous.
I think as far as the auditions are concerned, they'll be running for the same period (6-7 weeks), but with the first few weeks focusing on the closed auditions, and the final few focusing on the arena auditions. The whole point of these is to show if they do indeed have any stage presence. I liked in Xtra Factor in 2009 when you had the judges choosing from a list of callers, and you'd get at least one lunatic each week. I wish they'd go back to that, and make Xtra Factor as entertaining as the main show.
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I don't quite understand...is someone finally saying the XF's a dead flogging horse? Like we haven't heard that before...
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They also need to change the live show lengths and results show.
i.e. have two acts in between commercial breaks and cut down on some of the crap in the introduction which usually lasts about 10 mins. They should also have a live band to accompany the artist like on The Voice/Strictly rather than a backing track. The results shows are the worst! The actual results don't start until the latter half of the show. They should spread it out better over the programme to make people watch the whole thing. Plus they need to axe the judges vote imo, they could easily re-open lines after bottom two announcement and then announce eliminee at the end of the show. This is how I'd re-work it... 20:00 Intro, group performance, lines close *Break* 20:15 first guest performer + announce results *Break* 20:30 Bottom two perform and lines re-open + second guest performer *Break* 20:50 Lines close, judges chat asking who they'd pick (or third guest performer), result of eliminee |
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They also need to change the live show lengths and results show.
i.e. have two acts in between commercial breaks and cut down on some of the crap in the introduction which usually lasts about 10 mins. They should also have a live band to accompany the artist like on The Voice/Strictly rather than a backing track. The results shows are the worst! The actual results don't start until the latter half of the show. They should spread it out better over the programme to make people watch the whole thing. Plus they need to axe the judges vote imo, they could easily re-open lines after bottom two announcement and then announce eliminee at the end of the show. This is how I'd re-work it... 20:00 Intro, group performance, lines close *Break* 20:15 first guest performer + announce results *Break* 20:30 Bottom two perform and lines re-open + second guest performer *Break* 20:50 Lines close, judges chat asking who they'd pick (or third guest performer), result of eliminee |
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hoping the audition changes will see fewer acts like rylan make it thru as the judges are less likely to be influenced by how the audience reacts to someone with a big personality but cant sing
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It's destined for the glue factory and Osborne will help it on its way
Oh I don't think it'll be Sharon, I think Barlow has been a factor in the show's sliding ratings - he has the charisma of a cardboard cut-out (not to mention him inflicting Cocozza on the nation )He's proof that being an experienced singer/songwriter does not equate to being a great judge. |
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It's not really a format change, just another stage tacked on to the beginning! I was initially happy at the news that closed auditions were returning, until I saw that they were still doing arena auditions afterwards. If the auditionee is attractive and/or the song choice is an upbeat hit, the judges often get swayed by screaming girls in the audience and the supposed entertainment value of the performance, which wouldn't happen in closed auditions.
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Oh I don't think it'll be Sharon, I think Barlow has been a factor in the show's sliding ratings - he has the charisma of a cardboard cut-out (not to mention him inflicting Cocozza on the nation
)He's proof that being an experienced singer/songwriter does not equate to being a great judge. |
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wont change a thing if producers want a big personality through that cant sing itll happen regardless of how auditions are doen
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This year will get msssive ratings
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