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Old 04-06-2013, 12:37
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Bt have installed a new street cabinet opisite my house, will this be for infinity ?

Openreach where and when says infinity is coming to my exchange......
Status: Future Exchange
Forecast date: By end of 2013.

And what happens to the old cabinet that sits next to the new one ?
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:57
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the fibre cabinet sits next (or near) the existing cabinet.
the old one stays and continues to be used.
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:59
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what do this new cabinet look like? All the fibre ones around here got vents on the front, a normal cabinet don't.

If it is a FTTC, the old cabinet stays, so there will be two. Maybe they decided to bring the date forward and not updated the data yet or it could just be a replacement for the old cabinet, they did that up by a mates place a couple years back as the old one was leaking every time it rained.
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Old 04-06-2013, 13:09
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cheers

It's just like this one...

http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/wp-c...brecabinet.jpg

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Old 04-06-2013, 14:08
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Yep, that's an Infinity cabinet.
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Old 04-06-2013, 21:23
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Yep, that's an Infinity cabinet.
No, it is not a infinity cabinet, it is a fibre cabinet.
So yes OP, it seems like you may get it earlier than what they say, but then again you may not.
The one by a mates place was put in 2 months before it went live.
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Old 04-06-2013, 22:59
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Thats like the one just over two streets away from me. Thats been there since early 2011.
New houses just to the east of my area have been getting built since mid 2010 and thats them just getting fiber to some of there streets in the last month or so and I been told that there average speed is just over 50mb. The new housing area is also over 2 miles from the towns BT exchange. Thats been there since I think the mid to late 150s.

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Old 06-06-2013, 02:46
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The new cabinet had a trench dug up which lead to 2 manhole covers with Post Office Telephones written on them, these covers sit directly infront of the old cabinet.
The trench has been concreted in now.

Ive searched for the new cabinet and found this pic which is the exact design as the one opposote me....

http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/rh...a/Cab.jpg.html
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:41
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Where I live there is only one cabinet, not two next to each other, for FTTC.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:36
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Where I live there is only one cabinet, not two next to each other, for FTTC.
There is always two for FTTC, but the other one could be across the road or even around the corner. One where i walk up to a mates place got the old cabinet in a street and the FTTC at the end of a alleyway behind the street.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:37
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The new cabinet had a trench dug up which lead to 2 manhole covers with Post Office Telephones written on them, these covers sit directly infront of the old cabinet.
The trench has been concreted in now.

Ive searched for the new cabinet and found this pic which is the exact design as the one opposote me....

http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/rh...a/Cab.jpg.html
There is one of them a few streets away, i presume it is smaller because it will serve less people, the one up by me is larger.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:34
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There is always two for FTTC, but the other one could be across the road or even around the corner. One where i walk up to a mates place got the old cabinet in a street and the FTTC at the end of a alleyway behind the street.
I see. There are loads of green cabinets around here, so it is not easy to tell sometimes, which are for BT etc. or Virgin Media.

All I know for sure, is that the FTTC box is about 300 metres away.
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Old 06-06-2013, 11:49
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Im constantly checking http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/ still says by the end of 2013.

Theres new cabinets going in down the main street from me, the next one is only a 2 min walk away, why so close ?

Plus, if they have finnised installing the new cabinets opposite will they activate it before the other cabinets in my town have finnished being installed, or is it a case of waiting till all are completed ?
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Old 06-06-2013, 20:17
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Im constantly checking http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/ still says by the end of 2013.

Theres new cabinets going in down the main street from me, the next one is only a 2 min walk away, why so close ?

Plus, if they have finnised installing the new cabinets opposite will they activate it before the other cabinets in my town have finnished being installed, or is it a case of waiting till all are completed ?
It maybe that the cabinets the FTTCs are connected to have a large number of subscriber, and AFAIK, it's not normal for Openreach to feed two cabinets off one FTTC.
You have to wait for the work to be completed at the exchange before any installed cabinets can go live. The good news is they won't wait for the whole town to be installed before activating them.
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Old 08-06-2013, 01:49
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No, it is not a infinity cabinet, it is a fibre cabinet.
So yes OP, it seems like you may get it earlier than what they say, but then again you may not.
The one by a mates place was put in 2 months before it went live.
If it's not an Infinity cabinet then perhaps you would like to illuminate me on what particular service the Infinity DSLAM behind the left hand door is going to provide, if not Infinity. True, it will have fibre going into it to supply the DSLAM but it will also have copper tie cables going to and from the copper network cabinet so it could equally be described as a copper cabinet.
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Old 09-06-2013, 23:35
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I see. There are loads of green cabinets around here, so it is not easy to tell sometimes, which are for BT etc. or Virgin Media.

All I know for sure, is that the FTTC box is about 300 metres away.
Ah, you got Virgin around there then? Never seen a VM cabinet in the flesh, but I have heard they was larger than Bt FTTC.
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Old 09-06-2013, 23:39
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If it's not an Infinity cabinet then perhaps you would like to illuminate me on what particular service the Infinity DSLAM behind the left hand door is going to provide, if not Infinity. True, it will have fibre going into it to supply the DSLAM but it will also have copper tie cables going to and from the copper network cabinet so it could equally be described as a copper cabinet.

Infinity is a BTretail trade name for fibre to the cabinet. since other Isps can use these cabinets they are not infinity cabinets.

They are Fibre cabinets. I know it is a bit picky, but i know a few people who thought that Bt was the only ones that could give them FTTC. the way BT advertised it as you can only get infinity with BT, which is true, but some people don't realise that Infinity is just a tradename.
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Old 09-06-2013, 23:49
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No, it is not a infinity cabinet, it is a fibre cabinet.
So yes OP, it seems like you may get it earlier than what they say, but then again you may not.
The one by a mates place was put in 2 months before it went live.

I thort infinity was fibre optic? fibre on the road,just not to the house..
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Old 09-06-2013, 23:51
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Infinity is a BTretail trade name for fibre to the cabinet. since other Isps can use these cabinets they are not infinity cabinets.

They are Fibre cabinets. I know it is a bit picky, but i know a few people who thought that Bt was the only ones that could give them FTTC. the way BT advertised it as you can only get infinity with BT, which is true, but some people don't realise that Infinity is just a tradename.
virgin media is fibre as well.. infact virgin system is very old.. I used to have Nynex and united artists many years ago.. they were fibre..
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:01
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I thort infinity was fibre optic? fibre on the road,just not to the house..
It is, but the cabinets are not infinity cabinets.


virgin media is fibre as well.. infact virgin system is very old.. I used to have Nynex and united artists many years ago.. they were fibre..
I know someone who used to use Telewest, which merged with NTL and then virgin too it over, I don't think it was fibre than. But yes Virgin network is getting on in age.
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Old 10-06-2013, 12:48
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It's an Infinity Cabinet

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...QEwAA&dur=1011

Virgin Cabinets are ::

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alanstanton/4183054282/

Depending of where you live the original cable provider could have been Nynex or Telewest, they then were bought out by NTL, who were then bought out by Virgin
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Old 10-06-2013, 18:33
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No, it is not a infinity cabinet, there is no such thing as a infinity cabinet, even if Bt retail want you to think there is. the cabinet can be used by many ISP's including Sky, Talk Talk, EE, and smaller providers, they don't call their services infinity as it is a trade name.

The cabinets are put in by BT openreach, if you see the poster on the new cabs, it says something like Superfast Fibre Broadband is here.
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Old 10-06-2013, 18:35
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No, it is not a infinity cabinet, there is no such thing as a infinity cabinet, even if Bt retail want you to think there is. the cabinet can be used by many ISP's including Sky, Talk Talk, EE, and smaller providers, they don't call their services infinity as it is a trade name.

The cabinets are put in by BT openreach, if you see the poster on the new cabs, it says something like Superfast Fibre Broadband is here.
Of course they can, they rent cable space from BT
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:59
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Of course they can, they rent cable space from BT
I am not sure how it works, with FTTC, i think they just use the connections. Talk Talk and Sky use their own system and more or less use the Fibre system after theirs.

I hope someone will come on here and explain better. but the point is FTTC is a Bt openreach thing, not a BT retail or BT wholesale from what i have read.

So anyone calling the fibre cabinets infinity cabinets are wrong.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:54
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I am not sure how it works, with FTTC, i think they just use the connections. Talk Talk and Sky use their own system and more or less use the Fibre system after theirs.

I hope someone will come on here and explain better. but the point is FTTC is a Bt openreach thing, not a BT retail or BT wholesale from what i have read.

So anyone calling the fibre cabinets infinity cabinets are wrong.
Sky and other providers rent fibre cable space from BT, BT cables and installs the FTTC and as far as I am aware only BT Staff are allowed access to them, so Sky & others need BT to connect them.

TalkTalk and Sky have no intention at the moment of laying their own fibre. But they want to rent BT's fibre at the same low prices they pay for access to copper broadband. Even BT recognises that the broadband market only took off when other companies got involved and competition forced customer prices down.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...ding-slow-lane
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