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based on one encounter with a cross breed you want them banned says a lot about your mind set really
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Not a fan of slobbery breeds myself! They can be friendly dogs but do require lots of exercise and good training. Unfortunately a lot of 'hard lads' are attracted to the tough guy look of them and don't socialise or exercise them. Powerful dog with no training or exercise is a recipe for disaster.
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The staffies I've met're soft and friendly.
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Staffordshire bull terriers and Bull Mastiffs should be banned in my opinion.
They are incredibly dangerous and unpredictable dogs. I see far too may owners of these so called pets who use them as status symbols, knowing damn well they could savage someone. Staffordshire bull terriers are basically Pit Bulls and Mastiffs are the same as Japanese Tosa's, both of which are banned in the UK. It is the unpredictable nature of both of these dogs that is so frightening. |
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Staffordshire bull terriers and Bull Mastiffs should be banned in my opinion.
They are incredibly dangerous and unpredictable dogs. I see far too may owners of these so called pets who use them as status symbols, knowing damn well they could savage someone. Staffordshire bull terriers are basically Pit Bulls and Mastiffs are the same as Japanese Tosa's, both of which are banned in the UK. It is the unpredictable nature of both of these dogs that is so frightening. |
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My H's uncle had a bull mastiff, absolutely huge and daft as a brush, but he was still a dog, and a very strong one at that. It would have been impossible to fight him off if he'd attacked . Nobody should own a dog that's more powerful than them.
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Staffordshire bull terriers and Bull Mastiffs should be banned in my opinion.
They are incredibly dangerous and unpredictable dogs. I see far too may owners of these so called pets who use them as status symbols, knowing damn well they could savage someone. Staffordshire bull terriers are basically Pit Bulls and Mastiffs are the same as Japanese Tosa's, both of which are banned in the UK. It is the unpredictable nature of both of these dogs that is so frightening. ![]() Absolutely nonsense, the problem with illegal breeds in the UK is living evidence of how useless breed bans are!! |
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My H's uncle had a bull mastiff, absolutely huge and daft as a brush, but he was still a dog, and a very strong one at that. It would have been impossible to fight him off if he'd attacked . Nobody should own a dog that's more powerful than them.
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Agreed. There is a website out there showing horrific injuries caused by these animals. And in most cases these animals ( I refuse to call them pets) turned on their owner or owners children for no reason whatsoever.
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Staffordshire bull terriers and Bull Mastiffs should be banned in my opinion.
They are incredibly dangerous and unpredictable dogs. I see far too may owners of these so called pets who use them as status symbols, knowing damn well they could savage someone. Staffordshire bull terriers are basically Pit Bulls and Mastiffs are the same as Japanese Tosa's, both of which are banned in the UK. It is the unpredictable nature of both of these dogs that is so frightening. My little boy has been in with 4 of them at a time, and even though they had never met him before, they were happy to let him stroke them and cuddle them. We went in with the puppies last time, and the mum was happy to let us pet them all, even though we'd never met her before. They do bark and make an awful lot of noise when she lets us walk along the kennels, but none of them have ever growled or bared their teeth at us, or shown any agression. They do look imposing due to their size. I think it comes down to the upbringing and owner as usual. My groomer only sells to people she knows, or have been recommended to her, as she puts the welfare of her dogs above profit. She has offered me one, but I don't have the room at the moment. However, I'd certainly get one in the future. She tells me they are incredibly loyal, great with children and whilst they enjoy walks, they don't need a massive amount of exercise. She says hers love a nice sunny area, so a massive garden isn't vital either, so long as there is somewhere for them to relax, and they get some exercise. |
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And you live a council estate I'm guessing?
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Bullmastiffs can make really good pets if treated well. I have seen some really aggressive ones, not their fault at all. I also do not like the idea of bullmastiffs bread with staffies.
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Bullmastiffs can make really good pets if treated well. I have seen some really aggressive ones, not their fault at all. I also do not like the idea of bullmastiffs bread with staffies.
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They really aren't. My groomer breeds them, and has about 24 at the last count. I take my dog to her every 6 weeks for grooming, and she always has 3 or 4 of her dogs loose around her grounds. They only approach us when she has given them permission, and they've never been anything other than docile and friendly.
My little boy has been in with 4 of them at a time, and even though they had never met him before, they were happy to let him stroke them and cuddle them. We went in with the puppies last time, and the mum was happy to let us pet them all, even though we'd never met her before. They do bark and make an awful lot of noise when she lets us walk along the kennels, but none of them have ever growled or bared their teeth at us, or shown any agression. They do look imposing due to their size. I think it comes down to the upbringing and owner as usual. My groomer only sells to people she knows, or have been recommended to her, as she puts the welfare of her dogs above profit. She has offered me one, but I don't have the room at the moment. However, I'd certainly get one in the future. She tells me they are incredibly loyal, great with children and whilst they enjoy walks, they don't need a massive amount of exercise. She says hers love a nice sunny area, so a massive garden isn't vital either, so long as there is somewhere for them to relax, and they get some exercise. RSPCA president Hugh Wirth said they were bred to bring down large animals such as wild boar. "Feral pigs are one of the most aggressive and most lethal feral animals we've got in Australia, and they need an equally aggressive dog to handle them," he said. "A bull mastiff is a very big dog with plenty of weight, and is easily stirred into a rage. "Once it is stirred up, the rest (of its hunting pack) are stirred up and they won't stop the attack until the attack is over." Dr Wirth said yesterday's tragedy in Whitton, 40km southeast of Griffith, could have been prevented. "I blame the owner for the way in which those dogs were kept," Dr Wirth said. "Those animals should have been held in secure lock-ups. "If those dogs were held as a pack of hunting dogs, one has to ask why the children were involved." Under Victorian law, dangerous dogs are defined as those that are kept as guard dogs or trained to attack a person. Local councils also have the power to declare a dog dangerous if it has attacked or bitten a person or animal. There are an average of five dog-bite victims each day in Victoria, according to recent figures from the Victorian Injury Surveillance Unit. Pit bull terriers, rottweilers and German shepherds are the most aggressive dogs listed on a Victorian dangerous dogs database. Dr Wirth said owners of dangerous dogs were required by law to keep their animals in an escape-proof dog pen when they were away. He said the horrific injuries inflicted on the two sisters yesterday were typical of dog attacks. "People out there aren't listening and now we have another life gone," Dr Wirth said. "They must know that dogs and children don't mix - particularly if you've got working dogs. "One of those children might have waved their arm or pulled at the dog's ear, which it has imagined or believed was a threat to their safety. So it has attacked. "You never allow children under the age of five years to mix with dogs, even if it's the most trustworthy pet dog you have ever known." http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mas...-1111118504601 |
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What a load of tosh!
I mixed with dogs since day one, my parents and the dogs owners were careful - use common sense (remember that). I was bitten by a working sheepdog that I was told not go near and was told off for this!! Rightly so! None of this has anything to do with dangerous breeds or breed bans - in the time I've spent working around dogs, the most troubled ones were border collies, JRTs, and GSDs.... none of these are banned. *sigh*..... It's attitudes like this that are creating the problem, let kids mix with dog, teach them how! |
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BULL mastiffs, like the dogs involved in the shocking mauling of two little sisters yesterday, are one of the most dangerous canine breeds.
RSPCA president Hugh Wirth said they were bred to bring down large animals such as wild boar. "Feral pigs are one of the most aggressive and most lethal feral animals we've got in Australia, and they need an equally aggressive dog to handle them," he said. "A bull mastiff is a very big dog with plenty of weight, and is easily stirred into a rage. "Once it is stirred up, the rest (of its hunting pack) are stirred up and they won't stop the attack until the attack is over." Dr Wirth said yesterday's tragedy in Whitton, 40km southeast of Griffith, could have been prevented. "I blame the owner for the way in which those dogs were kept," Dr Wirth said. "Those animals should have been held in secure lock-ups. "If those dogs were held as a pack of hunting dogs, one has to ask why the children were involved." Under Victorian law, dangerous dogs are defined as those that are kept as guard dogs or trained to attack a person. Local councils also have the power to declare a dog dangerous if it has attacked or bitten a person or animal. There are an average of five dog-bite victims each day in Victoria, according to recent figures from the Victorian Injury Surveillance Unit. Pit bull terriers, rottweilers and German shepherds are the most aggressive dogs listed on a Victorian dangerous dogs database. Dr Wirth said owners of dangerous dogs were required by law to keep their animals in an escape-proof dog pen when they were away. He said the horrific injuries inflicted on the two sisters yesterday were typical of dog attacks. "People out there aren't listening and now we have another life gone," Dr Wirth said. "They must know that dogs and children don't mix - particularly if you've got working dogs. "One of those children might have waved their arm or pulled at the dog's ear, which it has imagined or believed was a threat to their safety. So it has attacked. "You never allow children under the age of five years to mix with dogs, even if it's the most trustworthy pet dog you have ever known." http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mas...-1111118504601 I also agree that no child (above 5 or not) should be left alone with any dog, regardless of how timid. Thats not me saying dogs are dangerous or kids shouldn't be near them, I'm obviously bringing my children up with dogs, but I'd not trust my kids not to wind the dog up some how (ie running, squealing, etc), although they;ve been taught not to, they are kds and forget, so they are always supervised. |
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It's be alright id the staffie/Bull Mastiff ripped the hard lad'tough guy's throat out.
Mastifs are big dogs. They can be soft but also can be dangerous. There are certain breeds that need responsible owners as the implications of a JRT attack are less than that of a bull mastif. Maybe we need a dog owner test before we can own one. |
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Pardon. I don't understand this post. If I had to guess what it meant then it would be "It would be alright if the staffie/bull mastiff attcked its hard lad owner". A;though I see this was an early hours post so maybe drink was involved.
Mastifs are big dogs. They can be soft but also can be dangerous. There are certain breeds that need responsible owners as the implications of a JRT attack are less than that of a bull mastif. Maybe we need a dog owner test before we can own one. |
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Agreed. There is a website out there showing horrific injuries caused by these animals. And in most cases these animals ( I refuse to call them pets) turned on their owner or owners children for no reason whatsoever.
Anyone can find pictures of injuries from all sorts of dogs, not just mastiffs, but for each one there is probably another 1000 who haven't so much as hurt a fly. Also what experience do you have with Mastiffs? or are you basing your assumptions on a website? because we all know just how reliable webistes are right? |
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BULL mastiffs, like the dogs involved in the shocking mauling of two little sisters yesterday, are one of the most dangerous canine breeds.
RSPCA president Hugh Wirth said they were bred to bring down large animals such as wild boar. "Feral pigs are one of the most aggressive and most lethal feral animals we've got in Australia, and they need an equally aggressive dog to handle them," he said. "A bull mastiff is a very big dog with plenty of weight, and is easily stirred into a rage. "Once it is stirred up, the rest (of its hunting pack) are stirred up and they won't stop the attack until the attack is over." Dr Wirth said yesterday's tragedy in Whitton, 40km southeast of Griffith, could have been prevented. "I blame the owner for the way in which those dogs were kept," Dr Wirth said. "Those animals should have been held in secure lock-ups. "If those dogs were held as a pack of hunting dogs, one has to ask why the children were involved." Under Victorian law, dangerous dogs are defined as those that are kept as guard dogs or trained to attack a person. Local councils also have the power to declare a dog dangerous if it has attacked or bitten a person or animal. There are an average of five dog-bite victims each day in Victoria, according to recent figures from the Victorian Injury Surveillance Unit. Pit bull terriers, rottweilers and German shepherds are the most aggressive dogs listed on a Victorian dangerous dogs database. Dr Wirth said owners of dangerous dogs were required by law to keep their animals in an escape-proof dog pen when they were away. He said the horrific injuries inflicted on the two sisters yesterday were typical of dog attacks. "People out there aren't listening and now we have another life gone," Dr Wirth said. "They must know that dogs and children don't mix - particularly if you've got working dogs. "One of those children might have waved their arm or pulled at the dog's ear, which it has imagined or believed was a threat to their safety. So it has attacked. "You never allow children under the age of five years to mix with dogs, even if it's the most trustworthy pet dog you have ever known." http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mas...-1111118504601 "I blame the owner for the way in which those dogs were kept," Dr Wirth said. "Those animals should have been held in secure lock-ups. "If those dogs were held as a pack of hunting dogs, one has to ask why the children were involved." The article refers to a pack of hunting dogs, specifically bred and trained to hunt feral pigs. or in other words, they were TRAINED TO ATTCK. So you've picked a terrible example to highlight your point. |
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My dog is six years old and has been attacked 6 times in her life, three of them have been this year alone.
Of the 6 occasions a dog has went for her all but one of them has been a staffie. The other was a border collie. As far as I remember none of the dogs were owned by chavs or junkies and all were being walked by what you would class as normal people. I have nothing against staffies, my cousin has one and it's lovely but I do find it very disturbing that almost every time something has went for my dog it has been one. It makes me wary of them and I do try to keep out of their was when possible now. As for mastiff's, there is one near me that I see most days. It's not the nicest looking dog in the world but is well behaved and seems a friendly dog. It does have a very responsible owner though. |
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My dog is six years old and has been attacked 6 times in her life, three of them have been this year alone.
Of the 6 occasions a dog has went for her all but one of them has been a staffie. The other was a border collie. As far as I remember none of the dogs were owned by chavs or junkies and all were being walked by what you would class as normal people. I have nothing against staffies, my cousin has one and it's lovely but I do find it very disturbing that almost every time something has went for my dog it has been one. It makes me wary of them and I do try to keep out of their was when possible now. As for mastiff's, there is one near me that I see most days. It's not the nicest looking dog in the world but is well behaved and seems a friendly dog. It does have a very responsible owner though. |
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BULL mastiffs, like the dogs involved in the shocking mauling of two little sisters yesterday, are one of the most dangerous canine breeds.
RSPCA president Hugh Wirth said they were bred to bring down large animals such as wild boar. "Feral pigs are one of the most aggressive and most lethal feral animals we've got in Australia, and they need an equally aggressive dog to handle them," he said. "A bull mastiff is a very big dog with plenty of weight, and is easily stirred into a rage. "Once it is stirred up, the rest (of its hunting pack) are stirred up and they won't stop the attack until the attack is over." Dr Wirth said yesterday's tragedy in Whitton, 40km southeast of Griffith, could have been prevented. "I blame the owner for the way in which those dogs were kept," Dr Wirth said. "Those animals should have been held in secure lock-ups. "If those dogs were held as a pack of hunting dogs, one has to ask why the children were involved." Under Victorian law, dangerous dogs are defined as those that are kept as guard dogs or trained to attack a person. Local councils also have the power to declare a dog dangerous if it has attacked or bitten a person or animal. There are an average of five dog-bite victims each day in Victoria, according to recent figures from the Victorian Injury Surveillance Unit. Pit bull terriers, rottweilers and German shepherds are the most aggressive dogs listed on a Victorian dangerous dogs database. Dr Wirth said owners of dangerous dogs were required by law to keep their animals in an escape-proof dog pen when they were away. He said the horrific injuries inflicted on the two sisters yesterday were typical of dog attacks. "People out there aren't listening and now we have another life gone," Dr Wirth said. "They must know that dogs and children don't mix - particularly if you've got working dogs. "One of those children might have waved their arm or pulled at the dog's ear, which it has imagined or believed was a threat to their safety. So it has attacked. "You never allow children under the age of five years to mix with dogs, even if it's the most trustworthy pet dog you have ever known." http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mas...-1111118504601 ![]() ![]()
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