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That's a huge generalisation! I'm a girl (well, woman now) but I've always got on better with the lads than girls and I still do. Not because I think I'm 'better' than the girls or anything like that, and I certainly don't think I'm pretty (and I don't own or use any make-up - what little I had my daughter nicked!). It's for the simple (to me) reasons that a) I am a natural tomboy; b) with only a brother, and no sisters, I hung around a lot with his friends, gate-crashed his Scout camps because they were more interesting that my Guide camps (they did things like canoeing, whereas the Guides didn't!); c) I'm just not 'girly' - I don't like chocolate, I hate shopping for clothes and shoes (after two big ops on both feet shoes hurt me anyway - where's the fun in them?) and I don't (as mentioned before) wear make up (don't see the point, don't need it in my field of teaching, no need to dress up and look good!) and had no interest in sitting around bitching pointlessly about who fancied who etc when I was younger.
I'm sure I could come up with other reasons, but I've never had any of the accusations leveled at me that I've read here being leveled at Luisa, never had anyone's wife or partner have a go at me because I happen to work with their husband/partner (which, as a tutor in a F.E. college, I do every day), just as they've never had anyone have a go at them because they happen to work with me. So clearly Luisa and I must be different in some important respects! Therefore, how can all girls who say they prefer to/do get on better with boys/men than other women all be 'assholes', to quote your charming phrase? My eldest daughter, at the age of 18, is exactly like I was at her age - lots of friends who are boys, no interest in clothes, shoes ofr fashion (although she does like chocolate!) but has never had an actual boyfriend and doesn't want one yet. When she got her little Saturday job at the local library she was thrilled because all the other teenagers taken on were boys because she felt relieved (yes, relieved) that she wouldn't have to talk about the 'girly' stuff on their breaks! Does that make my daughter an 'asshole' too? Or the men who of this world who are truthful enough to admit that they get on better with women than men? If you don't like Luisa, fine, but please don't tar us all with the same brush, and don't make sweeping generalisations that have no basis in fact! Women / girls aren't all shopaholics with too many shoes and an addiction to make up and chocolate who swoon all day over boys. Maybe it's because you've spent such little time with them that you have such a prejudiced view. Despite groaning at some of Luisa's comments and the 'I'm too pretty and only get on with men' being very much groaned at I actually like her. Though that may be as a reality TV contestant rather than personally. |
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That's a huge generalisation! I'm a girl (well, woman now) but I've always got on better with the lads than girls and I still do. Not because I think I'm 'better' than the girls or anything like that, and I certainly don't think I'm pretty (and I don't own or use any make-up - what little I had my daughter nicked!). It's for the simple (to me) reasons that a) I am a natural tomboy; b) with only a brother, and no sisters, I hung around a lot with his friends, gate-crashed his Scout camps because they were more interesting that my Guide camps (they did things like canoeing, whereas the Guides didn't!); c) I'm just not 'girly' - I don't like chocolate, I hate shopping for clothes and shoes (after two big ops on both feet shoes hurt me anyway - where's the fun in them?) and I don't (as mentioned before) wear make up (don't see the point, don't need it in my field of teaching, no need to dress up and look good!) and had no interest in sitting around bitching pointlessly about who fancied who etc when I was younger.
I'm sure I could come up with other reasons, but I've never had any of the accusations leveled at me that I've read here being leveled at Luisa, never had anyone's wife or partner have a go at me because I happen to work with their husband/partner (which, as a tutor in a F.E. college, I do every day), just as they've never had anyone have a go at them because they happen to work with me. So clearly Luisa and I must be different in some important respects! Therefore, how can all girls who say they prefer to/do get on better with boys/men than other women all be 'assholes', to quote your charming phrase? My eldest daughter, at the age of 18, is exactly like I was at her age - lots of friends who are boys, no interest in clothes, shoes ofr fashion (although she does like chocolate!) but has never had an actual boyfriend and doesn't want one yet. When she got her little Saturday job at the local library she was thrilled because all the other teenagers taken on were boys because she felt relieved (yes, relieved) that she wouldn't have to talk about the 'girly' stuff on their breaks! Does that make my daughter an 'asshole' too? Or the men who of this world who are truthful enough to admit that they get on better with women than men? If you don't like Luisa, fine, but please don't tar us all with the same brush, and don't make sweeping generalisations that have no basis in fact! |
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I understand girls who get on better with guys than with other girls. I think some girls just have personalities that don't really click with other girls. I have a close female friend, and nearly all of her close friends are guys. She just doesn't get on very well with girls. It doesn't make her an 'asshole' and it doesn't mean that she flirts with all the guys. I see Luisa's point in that there is a lot more rivalry in The Apprentice with the girls than with the guys, and there always is. It's the same every year. She doesn't like the personality clashes and the rivalry that tends to happen when there are a lot of females in the same room, which is why she works better with men. Nothing wrong with that.
I'm someone who has always had close friends of both sexes. I tend to take people as individuals rather than judging them by idiotic stereotypes (not aimed at you, OP, just a general comment.) |
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Luisa? She seems to set out to CAUSE those clashes in the first place a lot of the time (her incredibly rude and patronising comment of ''you're just a doctor'' being a typical example.)
I'm someone who has always had close friends of both sexes. I tend to take people as individuals rather than judging them by idiotic stereotypes (not aimed at you, OP, just a general comment.) |
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Find girls who say stuff like 'I get on more with boys' to be incredibly annoying. As if all guys are one type of person and all girls are another type of person
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Luisa? She seems to set out to CAUSE those clashes in the first place a lot of the time (her incredibly rude and patronising comment of ''you're just a doctor'' being a typical example.)
I'm someone who has always had close friends of both sexes. I tend to take people as individuals rather than judging them by idiotic stereotypes (not aimed at you, OP, just a general comment.) |
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Find girls who say stuff like 'I get on more with boys' to be incredibly annoying. As if all guys are one type of person and all girls are another type of person
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As each week passes Luisa just becomes more waspish and LAS isn’t doing his job, she needs swotting.
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The point I'm making is that when you've got just a few hours to prepare for a day's worth of activities, one that consists of more than just baking, on which your chance on quarter of a million investment is at steak if you don't get it done, the last thing on your mind is a bloody piping tip, it's a minor, unimportant criticism, a piping tip wouldn't have saved them the task and neither would not have suggesting the cup cake making at all, the idea that Francesca was planning to go with instead would still have involved piping and would have still seen them pipeless, which would still, like here, have had no baring at all on the outcome.
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She will make ££££ out of this whether she wins or not
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That is a heck of a lot of spiteful rubbish to extrapolate from some mildly embarrassing but really quite tame Facebook photos.
Additionally I formed my opinion on far more than you have assumed. I'm not interested in anything further you have to say on the matter so I shall take steps not to see it
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That's your view, however I'm discussing a person on the show and you are discussing me, that's not what this is for.
Additionally I formed my opinion on far more than you have assumed. I'm not interested in anything further you have to say on the matter so I shall take steps not to see it ![]() |
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What I don't understand is why would Luisa date Jordan?
I mean Jordan seems like an awfully nice fellow but let's be brutally honest he's never in Luisa's league. Plus when it comes to intelligent, attractive girls like Luisa you need to be more than an awfully nice fellow. |
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As each week passes Luisa just becomes more waspish and LAS isn’t doing his job, she needs swotting.
Her "you're just a doctor" comment was jaw-droppingly chavvy and indicative of Luisa's dubious scale of what can be achieved in life. And yes,of course she gets on better with 'boys'. We get it,she looks pretty. Not as pretty as she thinks though. Add her willingness to pose in raunchy FB pics and she automatically qualifies for support from a certain percentage of the male viewers uninterested in her business capabilities. Sex sells, such is life . |
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What I don't understand is why would Luisa date Jordan?
I mean Jordan seems like an awfully nice fellow but let's be brutally honest he's never in Luisa's league. Plus when it comes to intelligent, attractive girls like Luisa you need to be more than an awfully nice fellow. I am aware that I may sound a little cynical here. |
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Keep hearing about this Louisa, don't know who she is?
Her name is Luisa, at least get it right if your going to criticise her |
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Keep hearing about this Louisa, don't know who she is?
Her name is Luisa, at least get it right if your going to criticise her As if it it matters, it's clear who people are referring to.I keep seeing lads defending her on here like they are her boyfriend.
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And yes,of course she gets on better with 'boys'.
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What I don't understand is why would Luisa date Jordan?
I mean Jordan seems like an awfully nice fellow but let's be brutally honest he's never in Luisa's league. Plus when it comes to intelligent, attractive girls like Luisa you need to be more than an awfully nice fellow. |
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As if it it matters, it's clear who people are referring to.I keep seeing lads defending her on here like they are her boyfriend. ![]() I'm starting to think that most of them are! They can't seem to find any flaws in anything she has said or done. When in reality there are quite a few! And just for the record, she's probably the least attractive girl left now, her hair looks like it needs a good wash! Really don't understand all the hype on the way she looks. |
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As each week passes Luisa just becomes more waspish and LAS isn’t doing his job, she needs swotting.
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cant stand her she is just one big gob
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It's weird that your defense of women that prefer male company against what you perceived was a generalised assault is in turn very generalised itself.
Women / girls aren't all shopaholics with too many shoes and an addiction to make up and chocolate who swoon all day over boys. Maybe it's because you've spent such little time with them that you have such a prejudiced. |
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As if it it matters, it's clear who people are referring to.