Originally Posted by jerseyporter:
“That's a huge generalisation! I'm a girl (well, woman now) but I've always got on better with the lads than girls and I still do. Not because I think I'm 'better' than the girls or anything like that, and I certainly don't think I'm pretty (and I don't own or use any make-up - what little I had my daughter nicked!). It's for the simple (to me) reasons that a) I am a natural tomboy; b) with only a brother, and no sisters, I hung around a lot with his friends, gate-crashed his Scout camps because they were more interesting that my Guide camps (they did things like canoeing, whereas the Guides didn't!); c) I'm just not 'girly' - I don't like chocolate, I hate shopping for clothes and shoes (after two big ops on both feet shoes hurt me anyway - where's the fun in them?) and I don't (as mentioned before) wear make up (don't see the point, don't need it in my field of teaching, no need to dress up and look good!) and had no interest in sitting around bitching pointlessly about who fancied who etc when I was younger.
I'm sure I could come up with other reasons, but I've never had any of the accusations leveled at me that I've read here being leveled at Luisa, never had anyone's wife or partner have a go at me because I happen to work with their husband/partner (which, as a tutor in a F.E. college, I do every day), just as they've never had anyone have a go at them because they happen to work with me. So clearly Luisa and I must be different in some important respects! Therefore, how can all girls who say they prefer to/do get on better with boys/men than other women all be 'assholes', to quote your charming phrase? My eldest daughter, at the age of 18, is exactly like I was at her age - lots of friends who are boys, no interest in clothes, shoes ofr fashion (although she does like chocolate!) but has never had an actual boyfriend and doesn't want one yet. When she got her little Saturday job at the local library she was thrilled because all the other teenagers taken on were boys because she felt relieved (yes, relieved) that she wouldn't have to talk about the 'girly' stuff on their breaks! Does that make my daughter an 'asshole' too? Or the men who of this world who are truthful enough to admit that they get on better with women than men?
If you don't like Luisa, fine, but please don't tar us all with the same brush, and don't make sweeping generalisations that have no basis in fact!”
“That's a huge generalisation! I'm a girl (well, woman now) but I've always got on better with the lads than girls and I still do. Not because I think I'm 'better' than the girls or anything like that, and I certainly don't think I'm pretty (and I don't own or use any make-up - what little I had my daughter nicked!). It's for the simple (to me) reasons that a) I am a natural tomboy; b) with only a brother, and no sisters, I hung around a lot with his friends, gate-crashed his Scout camps because they were more interesting that my Guide camps (they did things like canoeing, whereas the Guides didn't!); c) I'm just not 'girly' - I don't like chocolate, I hate shopping for clothes and shoes (after two big ops on both feet shoes hurt me anyway - where's the fun in them?) and I don't (as mentioned before) wear make up (don't see the point, don't need it in my field of teaching, no need to dress up and look good!) and had no interest in sitting around bitching pointlessly about who fancied who etc when I was younger.
I'm sure I could come up with other reasons, but I've never had any of the accusations leveled at me that I've read here being leveled at Luisa, never had anyone's wife or partner have a go at me because I happen to work with their husband/partner (which, as a tutor in a F.E. college, I do every day), just as they've never had anyone have a go at them because they happen to work with me. So clearly Luisa and I must be different in some important respects! Therefore, how can all girls who say they prefer to/do get on better with boys/men than other women all be 'assholes', to quote your charming phrase? My eldest daughter, at the age of 18, is exactly like I was at her age - lots of friends who are boys, no interest in clothes, shoes ofr fashion (although she does like chocolate!) but has never had an actual boyfriend and doesn't want one yet. When she got her little Saturday job at the local library she was thrilled because all the other teenagers taken on were boys because she felt relieved (yes, relieved) that she wouldn't have to talk about the 'girly' stuff on their breaks! Does that make my daughter an 'asshole' too? Or the men who of this world who are truthful enough to admit that they get on better with women than men?
If you don't like Luisa, fine, but please don't tar us all with the same brush, and don't make sweeping generalisations that have no basis in fact!”
It's weird that your defense of women that prefer male company against what you perceived was a generalised assault is in turn very generalised itself.
Women / girls aren't all shopaholics with too many shoes and an addiction to make up and chocolate who swoon all day over boys. Maybe it's because you've spent such little time with them that you have such a prejudiced view.
Despite groaning at some of Luisa's comments and the 'I'm too pretty and only get on with men' being very much groaned at I actually like her. Though that may be as a reality TV contestant rather than personally.




As if it it matters, it's clear who people are referring to.