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help me understand why Rebecca was fired
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slouchingthatch
06-06-2013
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Yes, I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I wouldn't any more blame Jordan for the complete failure for the task than I would Rebecca.
A lot of what we think now is based on hindsight knowing what the eventual result turned out to be. At the time I'm not sure how easy it would be to know whether you are spending too much or not. It's highly dependent on the final result which nobody would have a clue about until they look back on it in hindsight.

These tasks can be so arbitrary and down to luck that I don't think it's quite the same as doing something in real life.
So many variables are thrown at them, which are probably mostly fictional, that it must be a bloody hard task to plan for anything.
How many businesses with such a small workforce would sack somebody each week until there's only one left? It's ludicrous really. It's just not a realistic situation, it's a contrived game where only two teams are pitted against each other doing nonsense tasks. A small team would just pick themselves up, review the situation, and come up with a new strategy for next time and try again.

I agree with your points because in these tasks how would any of them know whether they're spending too much or not in something of this nature until they've found out the results at the end. In hindsight it's easy to look back and say oh they've spent too much, but at the time how would anyone know?”

Hindsight is certainly a luxury we enjoy that the candidates don't. As with many things we watch, it's much easier to be a Monday morning quarterback than to actually be in the pressure situation of doing the tasks. Which is why you'll never get me doing anything like The Apprentice!
Alrightmate
06-06-2013
Originally Posted by lightdragon:
“It was £700+ for 12 people and £70 per person after that. Luisa stepped in and vetoed the idea, choosing to use her cake making experience instead.”

Good grief.
Si_Crewe
06-06-2013
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“not read the whole thread so don't know if this has already been said but this issue over wanting to hire a motivational speaker rather take the responsibility within the group I think was a big deal , especially when the other team got good feedback from their customer on that aspect

in that sort of environment not trusting yourself or one of your team-mates to do something like that, which you would think at least one of them should be capable of doing given their ambitions, showed a real weakness imo”

If motivational speaking was such a frivolity, I doubt there's be hundreds of people making a living from doing it, or companies willing to pay for them to do so.
mimik1uk
06-06-2013
never suggested it was

I said it stood out because the other team had done it themselves and got positive feedback from the customer
SillyBillyGoat
06-06-2013
Originally Posted by jcafcw:
“Sir Alan rightly noticed she is a cold, calculating homicidal maniac.

Seriously she has a problem connecting with people. She would turn any business meeting into a lead balloon.

And she has a awful, droning, grating voice.”

I don't recall her murdering anyone.
Si_Crewe
06-06-2013
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“I said it stood out because the other team had done it themselves and got positive feedback from the customer”

You said what I quoted in my previous post and it wasn't this.
mimik1uk
06-06-2013
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“You said what I quoted in my previous post and it wasn't this. ”

if u go back and look carefully I referred to the other team taking this responsibility themselves and getting good feedback which would have appealed to LS on a few occasions
mimik1uk
06-06-2013
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“If motivational speaking was such a frivolity, I doubt there's be hundreds of people making a living from doing it, or companies willing to pay for them to do so. ”

and btw we aint talking about someone wanting to make a career out of it and therefore needing the repertoire to sustain it , we were talking about someone doing a one-off 10-15 minute talk showing the importance of communications and teamwork in a business environment

given how well this lot seem to be able to talk about themselves at the drop of a hat that shouldn't have been beyond any of them
doive1231
06-06-2013
Rebecca is a follower (and a very good one) but not a leader. AS is looking for someone to invest in and not hold hands.
apaul
06-06-2013
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“If motivational speaking was such a frivolity, I doubt there's be hundreds of people making a living from doing it, or companies willing to pay for them to do so. ”

Many Apprentice candidates end up being 'motivational speakers'.
george.millman
06-06-2013
Originally Posted by doive1231:
“Rebecca is a follower (and a very good one) but not a leader. AS is looking for someone to invest in and not hold hands.”

To be fair, we hadn't seen her as a PM. You can't tell if someone is a leader until they have led a task.
indenile
06-06-2013
I'm still none the wiser.....
Some people suggested her business plan might have been rubbish.
neutralned
06-06-2013
I think she'd (Rebecca) basically given up, probably as a result of the awful people she was having to deal with in the house. I thought she was one of the stronger candidates, a little cold, but professional. On this task, Francesca should have gone, but I think Sugar recognised R's heart wasn't in it any more and did her a favour.
BigFoot87
06-06-2013
Joke decision.
unclekevo
06-06-2013
I think she held back a bit after Uzma and Luisa's treatment of her in Week 2, I was really disappointed in Sir Alan for attacking her for not getting on with them when it was quite clear that they were simply jealous of the fact that she was a much better sales person than them. At the end of the day, I thought Rebecca had far better entrepreneurial skills than Luisa or Francesca, I would have fired Francesca though Jordan didn't exactly help things either.
sofialady
06-06-2013
The blonde shoulda gone
sofialady
06-06-2013
Originally Posted by neutralned:
“I think she'd (Rebecca) basically given up, probably as a result of the awful people she was having to deal with in the house. I thought she was one of the stronger candidates, a little cold, but professional. On this task, Francesca should have gone, but I think Sugar recognised R's heart wasn't in it any more and did her a favour.”

Yup, thought Rebecca seemed like a leading candidate from early on but seems to have been withered down.
trevor tiger
06-06-2013
I certainly don't think she should have gone because of the motivational speaker decision. The other team struck lucky with Neil (or whoever it was ) I think she should have been commended for sticking with it as it can indeed be one of the best things about these kind of events.

However I don't think that's why she was fired. I think it was because she was too uptight and showed no sense of humour. She barely seemed human towards the end. I've got no idea why someone like her would allow someone like Luisa to suck the life out of her but some how or other she did. I think she was intimidated by her and it showed and she eventually suffered for it.

I guess it's a competition and people fall by the way side for all sorts of reasons. Rebecca simply fell by the way side.
janna
06-06-2013
Didn't she have a mini breakdown (crying) a few weeks back ?
And then yet again looked on the verge of crying in the boardroom on weds night.
Not the actions of a go-getter.

On a purely bitchy personal note (yes,I hold my hands up to it) her Audrey Hepburn impersonation and low cut LBDs in the boardroom were very annoying.To me.
RoseAnne
06-06-2013
Originally Posted by indenile:
“I'm still none the wiser.....
Some people suggested her business plan might have been rubbish.”

When Dara asked her on You're Fired she showed the marcasite rings on her fingers and said to sell marcasite on-line, so it doesn't sound like a great innovative plan which Lord Sugar might be interested in to me.
PrincessTT
07-06-2013
Surely the failure of the task was down to the fact that they had to give the client a refund because they didn't stick to the brief, if they hadn't had to give the refund then the amount they spent on motivational speakers and flamingos would have been irrelevant as they would have won... And that was down to Francesca. I'm baffled as to why Rebecca was fired.
indenile
07-06-2013
Originally Posted by unclekevo:
“I think she held back a bit after Uzma and Luisa's treatment of her in Week 2, I was really disappointed in Sir Alan for attacking her for not getting on with them when it was quite clear that they were simply jealous of the fact that she was a much better sales person than them. At the end of the day, I thought Rebecca had far better entrepreneurial skills than Luisa or Francesca, I would have fired Francesca though Jordan didn't exactly help things either.”

very plausible...you might be on to something there.
indenile
07-06-2013
Originally Posted by RoseAnne:
“When Dara asked her on You're Fired she showed the marcasite rings on her fingers and said to sell marcasite on-line, so it doesn't sound like a great innovative plan which Lord Sugar might be interested in to me.”

was that it?
I was expecting something more. also very plausible.
indenile
07-06-2013
Originally Posted by PrincessTT:
“Surely the failure of the task was down to the fact that they had to give the client a refund because they didn't stick to the brief, if they hadn't had to give the refund then the amount they spent on motivational speakers and flamingos would have been irrelevant as they would have won... And that was down to Francesca. I'm baffled as to why Rebecca was fired.”

I really doubt that the decision was related to the failure off the task. I think her card was marked this week.
Philip Wales
07-06-2013
Originally Posted by mimik1uk:
“and btw we aint talking about someone wanting to make a career out of it and therefore needing the repertoire to sustain it , we were talking about someone doing a one-off 10-15 minute talk showing the importance of communications and teamwork in a business environment

given how well this lot seem to be able to talk about themselves at the drop of a hat that shouldn't have been beyond any of them”

I think you'll find it was closer to 45mins talk as given by the professional speaker, thats a lot of time to talk. Neil was sort of used to this, and actually had a story to tell, which could be adapted to a "Motivational Speech" the other team didn't, hence why they had to hire one.

Still not sure if a "speaker" was actually part of the brief though.
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