You said this elsewhere? But you don't say how?

Right Ned, this has fast become tedious, repetitive and boring. I will quite happily debate with people but I must draw the line where you completely miss the points I am making, even though I've tried several times now to explain them. I know I am in the minority with my view, but I have the right to my opinion, as you have to yours.

You make an awful lot of assumptions in your replies to me (many of these are wrong IMO), and I fear this is where your arguments are flawed.

I don't need or require the 'last word'. I enjoy debating with people, that's all, and if they have the courtesy to reply to my post and ask questions like you have, I'll usually try to extend the same courtesy back.

You imply I am the same person as the OP because I have a similar opinion to him? That is just a weird thing to say. 2 people agree = must be the same person? Strange logic. By this rational you must have hundreds of accounts.

You put forward personal opinion as fact in the first sentence of your last paragraph. Can you not see how this is flawed also?

I'll stop with you now (you're welcome to reply so I don't get the last word ) as it's become clear I am now wasting my time.

I mean you no ill will and I apologise if the above sounds harsh. This is NOT meant as a personal attack on you and I don't mean to cause offence. Peace.
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This is useful when you've backed yourself into a corner



That's just ridiculous. You say she is that, I think she is not attractive and rather than confident she is arrogant and egotistical.

the thing that annoys me about Luisa is she never says anything positive, or rather they dont show her if she does, all she ever seems to be on camera saying is how crap everyone is compared to her.

she reminds me a bit of Susan Ma, everything negative about her is 'unfair' in her eyes

Agree shmisk, she is very negative. Normally I like "strong personalities"... but she has a lot of personality traits I dislike, she is condescending, unreliable, conceited, domineering, rude... physically I think she's normal, not stunning but not ugly either, she has a nice bewbs though, I have seen them somewhere.

There's nothing furtive or flawed about it, that's how it is. If you're a reasonably attractive woman with a bit of a brain and/or a bit of a mouth, you're screwed. That's how it is on the Apprentice, that's how it is on Big Brother. And trust me, I wouldn't need to make another account to back me up.

Isn't Aisleyne a proper hardcore fan favourite on the BB forum, and she fits that description to a tee really.

She's a Doctor, she's seen people die more than any other candidate, she's probably saved lives, I think her judgement should be valued highly.

Leah is the Dr, not Luisa.

Luisa is the most obviously marketable of the candidates. She's the female that would most "appeal to the masses" (not intended to be an insult, merely a statement of fact). She doesn't appear to be particularly discriminate about what she's prepared to do to be on camera. She's quite happy to speak without thinking - she seems quite blase about insulting a large proportion of the workforce that could be pretty helpful if she were serious about making her fortune in the business world.

All of the above indicate that Luisa could quite comfortably have some sort of media future whatever the result on "The Apprentice". And whatever the long term prospects, I foresee several photoshoots with few garments to get in the way.

apart from the fact your talking about the wrong person, I didnt realise 'seeing people die' makes you a good business person??

I do not agree that it's obvious she is the most marketable, she may have some appeal in a specific area but others have far more market appeal if they were to choose the right path and get the required lucky break ( which is really what any future media career will hinge on ) Luisa is thoroughly unlikeable so unless its a few pics of her in sexual poses she has no future all.

For your information, the sort of people who appreciate Luisa are not 'the masses'.

I hope the chap who thinks she will make £££££s has a better answer.

I do love being patronised.

"The masses" is intended to refer to those people who devour "celebrity" culture and its attendant publications. An editor of one of these once said that he'd rather headline an interview with Jade Goody than someone like Angelina Jolie or Gwyneth Paltrow because Jade would tell everything and give "good copy" whilst the Hollywood A list would insist on pre-prepared questions and tell very little that wasn't already known.

If any of the candidates are destined for this sort of media publicity, I'd say Luisa would be the one. She's "obviously" attractive, doesn't seem to be bothered about keeping herself covered and, I'd guess, would tend to be more of a Jade Goody interviewee than a Gwyneth Paltrow one. She may appear to be "thoroughly unikeable" but she's the one with the most threads on here and the one people are talking about. Therefore, the reasoning may well go in editorial heads, she's the one that people are going to want to read about and the one that will shift copies.

I don't think any of the candidates will make millions from a media career after the show. However, if any of them get a decent amount of cash from any sort of media publicity, I'd say Luisa was the most likely to cash in. It'll probably be an obvious form of cashing in but I reckon it'll make her some decent money.