Maybe they should perform Prince Philip making racist comments on an overseas diplomatic visit.
Attraction's routine was not good. Steve to win.
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Originally Posted by jacqueline_gree:
“There will be no Chrurchill slander on these forums!”
“There will be no Chrurchill slander on these forums!”
Yay, we won a war where hundreds of millions died around the world and led to the hundreds of conflicts we have seen since killing 10s of millions more.
We should be so proud of that!
Let's remember it every time we talk of Britain. Winning wars. That's what we do best!!
They are creative and execute everything very well but I hated tonight's patronising rubbish- when is this country going to grow up instead of worshipping the monarchy and the military.
Originally Posted by Kablamo:
“Yay, we won a war where hundreds of millions died around the world and led to the hundreds of conflicts we have seen since killing 10s of millions more.
We should be so proud of that!
Let's remember it every time we talk of Britain. Winning wars. That's what we do best!!”
“Yay, we won a war where hundreds of millions died around the world and led to the hundreds of conflicts we have seen since killing 10s of millions more.
We should be so proud of that!
Let's remember it every time we talk of Britain. Winning wars. That's what we do best!!”
Right, so we should have lost the war and be proud of that instead? Allow our country to be invaded and become part of a Nazi forced labour scheme? Of course people are going of be proud of winning a war in those circumstances. That doesn't mean they celebrate the deaths of millions. Millions would have died in the war whoever won it.
What Attraction were doing using the war as a theme for their act I don't know, but that's no reason for you to come here and be disrespectful to past generations.
Originally Posted by allafix:
“Right, so we should have lost the war and be proud of that instead? Allow our country to be invaded and become part of a Nazi forced labour scheme? Of course people are going of be proud of winning a war in those circumstances. That doesn't mean they celebrate the deaths of millions. Millions would have died in the war whoever won it.
What Attraction were doing using the war as a theme for their act I don't know, but that's no reason for you to come here and be disrespectful to past generations.”
“Right, so we should have lost the war and be proud of that instead? Allow our country to be invaded and become part of a Nazi forced labour scheme? Of course people are going of be proud of winning a war in those circumstances. That doesn't mean they celebrate the deaths of millions. Millions would have died in the war whoever won it.
What Attraction were doing using the war as a theme for their act I don't know, but that's no reason for you to come here and be disrespectful to past generations.”
Nazi forced labour scheme? It was a scheme? What was this? They wanted a socialist movement based upon the repercussions of World War 1 and other wars around world that the UK was involved in after destroying Africa and Asia in the process.
We brought this on ourselves. We actually did a lot to encourage the war before 1939 so there is no reason to say "we shouldn't have fought". The point was, we did it all to ourselves. The way you're talking is, we were living in the shire like Hobbits and suddenly Sauron's ring popped up and we had to fight. Come on, let's look at history and how "GREAT" Britain caused so much conflict and so much damage around wht world prior to this and were the true cause of this war and we needed America (who had trade interests) to solve this.
How am I being disrespectful to past generations? Have you heard what those who fought in the war actually have to say about it? They criticise and damn it more than I do. They dislike the fact they were forced to go to war because their lives were at risk so that a handful of people could get rich from it.
It's ridiculous to live in this happy go lucky wonderland thinking people are favourable to war. Crazy. The way we go on about it, celebrating it, encouraging its remembrance and glorifying the very people who spent decades escalating it is shocking. Don't tell me that I am wrong here because war is fought for the sake of a few by exploiting the many. That has been the case for thousands of years and is the case today.
Today, we are, smarter but that doesn't seem to be the case in the UK.
Originally Posted by allafix:
“Right, so we should have lost the war and be proud of that instead? Allow our country to be invaded and become part of a Nazi forced labour scheme? Of course people are going of be proud of winning a war in those circumstances. That doesn't mean they celebrate the deaths of millions. Millions would have died in the war whoever won it.
What Attraction were doing using the war as a theme for their act I don't know, but that's no reason for you to come here and be disrespectful to past generations.”
“Right, so we should have lost the war and be proud of that instead? Allow our country to be invaded and become part of a Nazi forced labour scheme? Of course people are going of be proud of winning a war in those circumstances. That doesn't mean they celebrate the deaths of millions. Millions would have died in the war whoever won it.
What Attraction were doing using the war as a theme for their act I don't know, but that's no reason for you to come here and be disrespectful to past generations.”
It was a typically ignorant portrayal of Britishness.
I'd feel deeply ashamed if people from overseas when asked about the British identity recalled WWII/Churchill, Dave Cameron and the parasites in Buckingham Palace.
Surely this nation has offered more to the world deserving of recognition.
Originally Posted by Green_Stamp:
“It was a typically ignorant portrayal of Britishness.
I'd feel deeply ashamed if people from overseas when asked about the British identity recalled WWII/Churchill, Dave Cameron and the parasites in Buckingham Palace.
Surely this nation has offered more to the world deserving of recognition.”
“It was a typically ignorant portrayal of Britishness.
I'd feel deeply ashamed if people from overseas when asked about the British identity recalled WWII/Churchill, Dave Cameron and the parasites in Buckingham Palace.
Surely this nation has offered more to the world deserving of recognition.”
We have, we just don't celebrate it. Our arts, our architecture, our music, our inherent culture whether it is drinking or something else. Instead we behave like we're a bunch of nationalistic imps who think we're all about war and trumpets.
This seemed like a party political broadcast for the conservative party.
Loved Attraction from their very first audition and I wish them well with the win. That said... its Steve's performance tonight that I have looked at over 10 times so far on youtube... my absolute favourite of the night !! Fantastic !
Originally Posted by Kablamo:
“Nazi forced labour scheme? It was a scheme? What was this? They wanted a socialist movement based upon the repercussions of World War 1 and other wars around world that the UK was involved in after destroying Africa and Asia in the process.
We brought this on ourselves. We actually did a lot to encourage the war before 1939 so there is no reason to say "we shouldn't have fought". The point was, we did it all to ourselves. The way you're talking is, we were living in the shire like Hobbits and suddenly Sauron's ring popped up and we had to fight. Come on, let's look at history and how "GREAT" Britain caused so much conflict and so much damage around wht world prior to this and were the true cause of this war and we needed America (who had trade interests) to solve this.
How am I being disrespectful to past generations? Have you heard what those who fought in the war actually have to say about it? They criticise and damn it more than I do. They dislike the fact they were forced to go to war because their lives were at risk so that a handful of people could get rich from it.”
“Nazi forced labour scheme? It was a scheme? What was this? They wanted a socialist movement based upon the repercussions of World War 1 and other wars around world that the UK was involved in after destroying Africa and Asia in the process.
We brought this on ourselves. We actually did a lot to encourage the war before 1939 so there is no reason to say "we shouldn't have fought". The point was, we did it all to ourselves. The way you're talking is, we were living in the shire like Hobbits and suddenly Sauron's ring popped up and we had to fight. Come on, let's look at history and how "GREAT" Britain caused so much conflict and so much damage around wht world prior to this and were the true cause of this war and we needed America (who had trade interests) to solve this.
How am I being disrespectful to past generations? Have you heard what those who fought in the war actually have to say about it? They criticise and damn it more than I do. They dislike the fact they were forced to go to war because their lives were at risk so that a handful of people could get rich from it.”
That was their plan for Britain, post invasion. There was nothing socialist about Hitler's fascists. Really, you need a history lesson or several.
Originally Posted by Kablamo:
“It's ridiculous to live in this happy go lucky wonderland thinking people are favourable to war. Crazy. The way we go on about it, celebrating it, encouraging its remembrance and glorifying the very people who spent decades escalating it is shocking. Don't tell me that I am wrong here because war is fought for the sake of a few by exploiting the many. That has been the case for thousands of years and is the case today.
Today, we are, smarter but that doesn't seem to be the case in the UK.”
“It's ridiculous to live in this happy go lucky wonderland thinking people are favourable to war. Crazy. The way we go on about it, celebrating it, encouraging its remembrance and glorifying the very people who spent decades escalating it is shocking. Don't tell me that I am wrong here because war is fought for the sake of a few by exploiting the many. That has been the case for thousands of years and is the case today.
Today, we are, smarter but that doesn't seem to be the case in the UK.”
Don't be an arse. I'm not favourable to war, any more than any right thinking person. But going on about WW2 and blaming it on the UK is ignorance of the first order. If you think only the UK remembers the war in this way you really should get out more.
If there hadn't been a war millions would still have died in the camps. Would that be OK by you, as long as we weren't part of it? If you think Hitler's government was just a benign socialist movement which was no threat to Europe and the UK you need to do some research and get some background on what they were actually about.
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