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What about changing it to 'Are You Not Entertained?'.
The quote from Gladiator.
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I'm not overly bothered but it would make more sense if the acts were at least based in Britain. On Sky's Got to Dance, a Canadian won but he was based in London so no argument there. I think there would be more of a fuss if say an American based in the US won X Factor UK.
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They were entering a talent contest. If you class that as work, were Pre School working, or Asanda, Arixsandra?
I don't think a salary was being paid to them, just a prize for the winner of the talent contest. I'm certain they aren't on a salary whilst they compete in a competition. ![]() |
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Or maybe "You can vote now but all phone lines outside Britain will be disconnected" Oh wait, they have already done that.
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£250k will go far in Hungary I imagine.
Lets hope the floods pass them by. |
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I agree they were not paid a salary. But thats not what your criteria set out! YOU said that they did not work here. I am pretty sure I watched a group of people WORK very hard to win!
Living here, does not mean stay in a hotel whilst you compete in a talent contest either and then go home again.
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£250k will go far in Hungary I imagine.
Lets hope the floods pass them by. |
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Do you speak for all of the EDl or just your own branch?
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Steady on Chief.
![]() Have you ever bothered to travel beyond these tiny insignificant islands? |
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Work as in earn a wage, pay NI and taxes. Working hard to prepare yourself for your performances isn't exactly what was meant.
Living here, does not mean stay in a hotel whilst you compete in a talent contest either and then go home again. ![]() Secondly, do you think they will just "go home again", or will they set up a show in the UK showcasing their talent, and in doing so pay all the taxes that com with that to the UK, knowing that they are so popular? I have to say, this tax argument is so week |
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You just made a little sarcastic remark basically aluding to the fact you'd find it amusing or whatever if the floods hit Hungary and also seem to be casting your judgement on the place as somewhere of a load of peasants where £250K will "go far".
Have you ever bothered to travel beyond these tiny insignificant islands? |
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Why oh why oh why is this so complex for some to get their tiny heads around.
It's so mind-numbingly simple: I'll even do it in big grown up writing for you: BRITAIN'S (Meaning something BELONGING TO BRITAIN) It is therefore misrepresentation and false advertising. Change the name or the policy as both just can't exist with people with even a basic grasp of English. |
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Firstly - The child acts you mentioned do not pay these taxes. Should we not allow them until they have?
Secondly, do you think they will just "go home again", or will they set up a show in the UK showcasing their talent, and in doing so pay all the taxes that com with that to the UK, knowing that they are so popular? I have to say, this tax argument is so week I think you know full well what I'm saying. No, now they have won they won't just go home again. I was simply covering my options in case that was bought up. You alluded to the fact that they were working, when I state it was not work (as we know it Jim) it is rehearsing......they do not get paid for rehearsing, therefore it is not classed as 'work.' For the record, as I've stated many times, I have wanted Attraction to win from their first audition, I think they are brilliant. BUT.........given the title of the show I do think it's a tad 'odd' for want of a better word that the winning act of Britains got talent is an act that lives and works in Hungary. They had simply flow in from Hungary to compete, and had they not have won, would simply have flown back home again to continue to live in their own country. I have no problem at all that they weren't born on these shores of ours, none whatsoever.........but I would normally expect whoever entered to actually live here, given the title of the show. As it stands now BGT...........live in Hungary. It doesn't make sense to me. Nothing more to it than that.
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Not really, the show's title could easily mean - Britain's Got Talent On Their TV Screens.
No, no it isn't The word is "Britain's" - A possessive noun with only one meaning: Something belonging to Britain. Really some on here take the pee and would argue that water is dry just to draw attention to themselves. |
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Actually, Britain's in this sense is a contraction of 'Britain' and 'has'. The 'Got' does not belong to Britain. The only way it could mean belonging to Britain is if it was 'Britain's Talent'. What you're saying is the equivalent of 'His Got Talent' and not 'He's Got Talent'.
And at the end of the day, it was the British public who phoned in and voted for the winner, so they got what they wanted. If that many people were so offended that a Hungarian act was in the final, they only had to vote for the other acts to ensure they got a British winner. They didn't. I think people would do better to complain about the lack of British talent .... honestly, if that is the best we have to offer, I'm glad we let in foreign acts! Especially after last year, when nobody could even beat the dog! |
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LOL! I can't take you seriously, I really can't.
I think you know full well what I'm saying. No, now they have won they won't just go home again. I was simply covering my options in case that was bought up. You alluded to the fact that they were working, when I state it was not work (as we know it Jim) it is rehearsing......they do not get paid for rehearsing, therefore it is not classed as 'work.' For the record, as I've stated many times, I have wanted Attraction to win from their first audition, I think they are brilliant. BUT.........given the title of the show I do think it's a tad 'odd' for want of a better word that the winning act of Britains got talent is an act that lives and works in Hungary. They had simply flow in from Hungary to compete, and had they not have won, would simply have flown back home again to continue to live in their own country. I have no problem at all that they weren't born on these shores of ours, none whatsoever.........but I would normally expect whoever entered to actually live here, given the title of the show. As it stands now BGT...........live in Hungary. It doesn't make sense to me. Nothing more to it than that. ![]() 1. They may not get paid for their rehearsing, but lets not cheat them from the fact they were working. They may not have been paid or paid taxes, but hey were working. 2. The title of the show is Britain's Got Talent... Well from my sofa, Britain had the talent! They were from Hungary, but we had them. I am proud that they chose our county to enter. Like another poster said, the show is not called Britons Talent. Now I know you're going to be pedantic about that, but is your whole argument not based on the shows title? 3. Out of curiosity, how would you deal with a group that has one member who lives outside if the UK? |
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Is the show called "Britain's Got Talent On Their TV Screens"
No, no it isn't The word is "Britain's" - A possessive noun with only one meaning: Something belonging to Britain. Really some on here take the pee and would argue that water is dry just to draw attention to themselves. And water can be dry... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_water |
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[quote=tv-enthusiast;66311812]Well quite! You have clearly made your mind up on that.. But lets analyse it a bit -
1. They may not get paid for their rehearsing, but lets not cheat them from the fact they were working. They may not have been paid or paid taxes, but hey were working. 2. The title of the show is Britain's Got Talent... Well from my sofa, Britain had the talent! They were from Hungary, but we had them. I am proud that they chose our county to enter. Like another poster said, the show is not called Britons Talent. Now I know you're going to be pedantic about that, but is your whole argument not based on the shows title? 3. Out of curiosity, how would you deal with a group that has one member who lives outside if the UK?[/QUOTE] Probably as the majority lived in Britain, then I suspect I wouldn't find it as 'odd.' Yes, my whole argument as you put it is about the shows title. From my sofa Britain showcased a remarkable talent that came from Hungary and worthy winners they were too. Whether you call it BGT or Britain's Talent, one would normally assume that the contestants would hail from Britain. As we seem to have thrashed this out to the nth degree we will possibly have to agree to disagree on this matter, otherwise we will be going around in ever decreasing circles. They do not work in this country, they came over to enter a talent contest. Whichever way you dress it up that is not classed as work and neither is rehearsing for said contest classed as work otherwise if it were, the children would be classed as working and that may cause problems with how many hours they would be allowed to work given some are only 6. Rehearsing however, they can put in as many hours as their teachers/parents deem acceptable.
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No more German Shepherd dog acts..
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Actually, Britain's in this sense is a contraction of 'Britain' and 'has'. The 'Got' does not belong to Britain. The only way it could mean belonging to Britain is if it was 'Britain's Talent'. What you're saying is the equivalent of 'His Got Talent' and not 'He's Got Talent'.
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Is the show called "Britain's Got Talent On Their TV Screens"
No, no it isn't The word is "Britain's" - A possessive noun with only one meaning: Something belonging to Britain. Really some on here take the pee and would argue that water is dry just to draw attention to themselves. |
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Our German Queen and her Greek consort are outraged
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Why oh why oh why is this so complex for some to get their tiny heads around.
It's so mind-numbingly simple: I'll even do it in big grown up writing for you: BRITAIN'S (Meaning something BELONGING TO BRITAIN) It is therefore misrepresentation and false advertising. Change the name or the policy as both just can't exist with people with even a basic grasp of English. It's so mind-numbingly simple: I'll even do it in big grown up writing for you: BRITAIN'S MEANS WHATEVER THE BGT PRODUCTION COMPANY CHOSE IT TO MEAN. They have an entrance criteria that they will have made public and which they will apply to all entrants. You may not agree with it but the entrants will have signed up to. So based on that, as ticked off as you may be, Attraction have met the criteria and are worthy winners. Is that clear now? |
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The 'Got' does not belong to Britain. The only way it could mean belonging to Britain is if it was 'Britain's Talent'. What you're saying is the equivalent of 'His Got Talent' and not 'He's Got Talent'.
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Do you pay the same respects to Premier League football teams with foreign born players? Should only British born players play in British sports?
Attraction won regardless of where they came from. They were the most popular act and got the most votes. The Queen is going to love their act.
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Our German Queen and her Greek consort are outraged
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Would that be our German Queen Elizabeth II that was born in Mayfair, London perchance?
![]() We could go on but that's 246 years of lineage. And you claim the Queen is German. By that logic no-one should worry who enters the contest. |
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