I hhave an android phone but i must admit ios 7 is an improvement, you can see jony desperately wanted it to look like this to compliment the design of his hardware. it was know that jony ive and scot forstall never got on
The new IOS7 is awful, ugly total copy of Windows and Android
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I'm just glad the horrible textures are gone.
The green felt, the faux stitching and the ugly grey background in folders
iOS7 is a step in the right direction.
The green felt, the faux stitching and the ugly grey background in folders
iOS7 is a step in the right direction.
I like the "fresher" look in iOS 7 - I think it extends the life of iOS devices in general. The rotating app icons on the home screen is a gimmick though - probably something to show off to friends once then turn off to save battery (assuming you can).
On the whole it does seem to be a collection of "reinterpreted" features already on Android and Windows Phone though - even down to subtle UI choices made. I spotted round icon buttons like Windows Phone and the "swipe up" looks similar to Android lock screens.
With Apple it always seems to be style over substance and the "wow factor" all the time. This worked for them in the early days but competitors are catching up (in some cases overtaken) and Apple seem to be in denial...
On the whole it does seem to be a collection of "reinterpreted" features already on Android and Windows Phone though - even down to subtle UI choices made. I spotted round icon buttons like Windows Phone and the "swipe up" looks similar to Android lock screens.
With Apple it always seems to be style over substance and the "wow factor" all the time. This worked for them in the early days but competitors are catching up (in some cases overtaken) and Apple seem to be in denial...
I think Apple had quite a tough job to do here, with people ready to pounce no matter what. If they didn't refresh enough then cries of "same old, same old"; if they radicalised it too much then even ardent fans might turn; and I think if we give credit where credit is due (and I don't hand out credit to Apple willy nilly!), they've actually done a decent job.
They may have "borrowed" a couple of design cues from Android (I think I read about "slide to archive" being introduced in the Mail app... sound familiar?), but in fairness you could easily see that as a quid pro quo for some of the Apple design cues borrowed in earlier editions of Android.
With regard to the look, I think as all three main mobile OSes have tried to modernise they are clearly working within current design hints and trends, and whilst they all have their unique takes on them (Holo, tiles, whatever), they will have similarities and "feel" similar in some ways because that's what modern design dictates. Only a few years ago, the trend was for blocky, 3D images and icons, heavy use of gradients, embossed buttons and lettering, shadows here there and everywhere and a general spattering of "depth" all over. Think of the old, heavily embossed and shadowed "Google" logo and that Xara 3D program everyone used to use to create website headers. iOS and early Android reflected this.
Fast-forward to now and the trend is for large, sleek, flat images; bold and consistent (and also flat) colours, thin lines, iconic over skeuomorphic, light fonts, etc. Android adopted a lot of this with ICS, Windows Phone 8 has - despite the other criticisms people may lay at it - always had this, and now iOS is adapting it too. They are all following the same design hints, in order to fit with the current vogue - I don't think this necessarily means they look "the same".
They may have "borrowed" a couple of design cues from Android (I think I read about "slide to archive" being introduced in the Mail app... sound familiar?), but in fairness you could easily see that as a quid pro quo for some of the Apple design cues borrowed in earlier editions of Android.
With regard to the look, I think as all three main mobile OSes have tried to modernise they are clearly working within current design hints and trends, and whilst they all have their unique takes on them (Holo, tiles, whatever), they will have similarities and "feel" similar in some ways because that's what modern design dictates. Only a few years ago, the trend was for blocky, 3D images and icons, heavy use of gradients, embossed buttons and lettering, shadows here there and everywhere and a general spattering of "depth" all over. Think of the old, heavily embossed and shadowed "Google" logo and that Xara 3D program everyone used to use to create website headers. iOS and early Android reflected this.
Fast-forward to now and the trend is for large, sleek, flat images; bold and consistent (and also flat) colours, thin lines, iconic over skeuomorphic, light fonts, etc. Android adopted a lot of this with ICS, Windows Phone 8 has - despite the other criticisms people may lay at it - always had this, and now iOS is adapting it too. They are all following the same design hints, in order to fit with the current vogue - I don't think this necessarily means they look "the same".
wow, well for starters im glad the thread title isnt biased!
I think it looks good, you can't please most people.... and most of the android users are the complainers so your points mean little.
I really like the interface, it looks fresh... and one more point, all iphone users from iphone 4 upwards get it... if you had a 3 year old android phone, would you get the latest update for your android phone??... i very much doubt it!
I think it looks good, you can't please most people.... and most of the android users are the complainers so your points mean little.
I really like the interface, it looks fresh... and one more point, all iphone users from iphone 4 upwards get it... if you had a 3 year old android phone, would you get the latest update for your android phone??... i very much doubt it!
Originally Posted by pepstar:
“I really like the interface, it looks fresh... and one more point, all iphone users from iphone 4 upwards get it... if you had a 3 year old android phone, would you get the latest update for your android phone??... i very much doubt it!”
“I really like the interface, it looks fresh... and one more point, all iphone users from iphone 4 upwards get it... if you had a 3 year old android phone, would you get the latest update for your android phone??... i very much doubt it!”
In 3 years time maybe
Originally Posted by pepstar:
“I think it looks good, you can't please most people.... and most of the android users are the complainers so your points mean little.”
“I think it looks good, you can't please most people.... and most of the android users are the complainers so your points mean little.”
...subtly ignoring the fact that the OP is one of the most anti-Android, pro-Apple users on these boards...
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“I like it, what kind of iSheep are you?
”
“I like it, what kind of iSheep are you?
”
I'm not a sheep I'm an ibot.
Originally Posted by and101:
“So they are making everything translucent like Windows Vista?
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“So they are making everything translucent like Windows Vista?
”
Ironically this has been dropped from windows.
I really like it a good improvement it has secured my custom with iPhone for the I foreseeable future now.
Best feature update to ios I have seen in a while can't say I like the actual look too much.
Problem is this update while ok has given features already available to many and it will be 12 months or more before another update, where will every one else be then.
Can't keep being a year and more behind as a company people will only wear it for so long the smartphone buying public is becoming more and more savvy.
Problem is this update while ok has given features already available to many and it will be 12 months or more before another update, where will every one else be then.
Can't keep being a year and more behind as a company people will only wear it for so long the smartphone buying public is becoming more and more savvy.
Originally Posted by pepstar:
“if you had a 3 year old android phone, would you get the latest update for your android phone??... i very much doubt it!”
“if you had a 3 year old android phone, would you get the latest update for your android phone??... i very much doubt it!”
Google has been shifting to putting a lot of updated functionality in apps, which can be then be rolled out to all customers regardless of carrier or manufacturer, and right back to at least Gingerbread ( released Dec 2010) and in some cases Froyo (May 2010).
At the Google equivalent of WWDC, lots of new functionality was introduced, but without a new Android OS version. Doing it using apps means it is available to
most Android owners.
Meanwhile, whilst Apple is careful to roll out the same version number to its older phones, functionality doesn't get the same treatment, and even the 4S won't get all the bells and whistles.
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Anybody agree?
I won't be updating and will be reconsidering what tablet and phone I buy in the future.”
“Anybody agree?
I won't be updating and will be reconsidering what tablet and phone I buy in the future.”
Well, if it is a copy of Andoid, it's not either a nice or beautiful copy.
:yawn:
/l\
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“Well, if it is a copy of Andoid, it's not either a nice or beautiful copy.
:yawn:
/l\”
“Well, if it is a copy of Andoid, it's not either a nice or beautiful copy.
:yawn:
/l\”
Atleast moving to Android gets you better specs all round. So your as good to jump ship since Apple are copying.
Noticed the multitasking windows are a rip of the BB playbook. But then BB took that from WebOS haha. Now we find it on IOS.
Bit of Meego and Sailfish there too.
Bit of Meego and Sailfish there too.
I'm struggling to think of a worse OS on a mobile platform since the smart phone market came around.
The colour scheme is a total headache.
The colour scheme is a total headache.
Originally Posted by swordman:
“Best feature update to ios I have seen in a while can't say I like the actual look too much.
Problem is this update while ok has given features already available to many and it will be 12 months or more before another update, where will every one else be then.
Can't keep being a year and more behind as a company people will only wear it for so long the smartphone buying public is becoming more and more savvy.”
“Best feature update to ios I have seen in a while can't say I like the actual look too much.
Problem is this update while ok has given features already available to many and it will be 12 months or more before another update, where will every one else be then.
Can't keep being a year and more behind as a company people will only wear it for so long the smartphone buying public is becoming more and more savvy.”
A year behind what? What exactly is it you want the iPhone to do that it can't do now or won't do with ios7?
Seriously, I remember having a Nokia 5110 back in the day. It made calls, sent texts, you could play Snake, and it only held 50 contacts. That's it.
The iPhone and other smart phones do EVERYTHING you could ever want. They work differently sure, and in some cases the features are copied from competitors. So what? With the new control centre Apple users can finally switch on/off wifi, Bluetooth etc without digging into the settings. Yes it works just like Android but who gives a damn? Why would Apple need to try and do it any differently if this design already works??
I really think some perspective is needed here. It's a smart phone, it does everything, and it's easy to use. If you're thinking any deeper than that then I'm jealous that's all you have to worry about.
No need to reinvent a wheel, take it, use it, improve it. It's just Apple is famous for its UI patents and litigations. Slide to unlock, anybody? So when people see Apple copying they notice and wonder.
Apple could have at least used a different style lock screen.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/10...ecame-android/
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/10...ecame-android/
I think it looked nice. However it's hard to tell just from watching a crappy stream, I'd need to see it in the flesh, but I'm excited for it and look forward to using it on my iPod touch and ipad.
I think it was time to refresh. It looked very dated. They did not change it for a long time, maybe because Jobs was a huge fan of the old design, or maybe their focus was on the hardware.
Originally Posted by slick1two:
“Noticed the multitasking windows are a rip of the BB playbook. But then BB took that from WebOS haha. Now we find it on IOS.
Bit of Meego and Sailfish there too.”
“Noticed the multitasking windows are a rip of the BB playbook. But then BB took that from WebOS haha. Now we find it on IOS.
Bit of Meego and Sailfish there too.”
Yep, a few other things borrowed for BB too.
http://crackberry.com/apple-swipes-t...two-blackberry
Not sure what people expected tbh.
I think it looks great and a few bug bears have been addressed which is always a good thing.
I think it looks great and a few bug bears have been addressed which is always a good thing.
I cant say I dislike it as it actually looks quite similar to how i occasionally set my Nexus up (not a dig, just fact).
Whilst it looks refreshing on a phone (small screen) Im wondering whether it may actually look a little bland on a tablet ? particularly the 'full sized' iPad ? With iOS 6 the textures add some feeling to the large screen for Apple and the Widgets add some movement to a large screen on Android. Im not sure what iOS 7 is going to give to a larger screen ???
I also see a lot of white text in some areas and dark text in others. How customisable/skinnable is iOS (without jailbreaking) ? or will there be a problem with people wanting very light wallpapers or very dark ones ?
It will also be interesting to see the formal list of what features the iPhone 4s is missing, what the 4 misses further, what the 3S gets (etc) as they always cause an interesting debate.
Im guessing it will polarise users. I'd kind of hoped to see something a little more 'wow' in the spec rather than something that was more focused on 'look and feel' as its great to see Andoid and Apple pushing forward to 'beat' each other - and this ultimately benefits Users on both sides. I really cant see anything in the list so far that cant already be done by Android, Windows, BB etc ..... (again, not a dig, fact).
Whilst it looks refreshing on a phone (small screen) Im wondering whether it may actually look a little bland on a tablet ? particularly the 'full sized' iPad ? With iOS 6 the textures add some feeling to the large screen for Apple and the Widgets add some movement to a large screen on Android. Im not sure what iOS 7 is going to give to a larger screen ???
I also see a lot of white text in some areas and dark text in others. How customisable/skinnable is iOS (without jailbreaking) ? or will there be a problem with people wanting very light wallpapers or very dark ones ?
It will also be interesting to see the formal list of what features the iPhone 4s is missing, what the 4 misses further, what the 3S gets (etc) as they always cause an interesting debate.
Im guessing it will polarise users. I'd kind of hoped to see something a little more 'wow' in the spec rather than something that was more focused on 'look and feel' as its great to see Andoid and Apple pushing forward to 'beat' each other - and this ultimately benefits Users on both sides. I really cant see anything in the list so far that cant already be done by Android, Windows, BB etc ..... (again, not a dig, fact).
The Verge has got stuck right into this new IOS with this article:
http://www.theverge.com/apple/2013/6...mply-confusing
Confusing is definitely the word for IOS7.
http://www.theverge.com/apple/2013/6...mply-confusing
Confusing is definitely the word for IOS7.
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