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Old 11-06-2013, 01:12
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First off I really enjoyed it, even tho the bad guy looked like something that belonged in labyrinth. Anyways when Clyde sees 11 and they are in the vents, Clyde ask the doctor if he could change color, what was his response I couldn't understand what he said. Yes, no, maybe?

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Old 11-06-2013, 01:28
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I just rewound it and went up to my tv and had to listen real close he says "I can be anything" then he says he has 507 regenerations hahaha either he picks and chooses the truth or he is a liar liar, which isn't new.


Anyways answered my own question. But really this episode was great and I enjoyed seeing 11 with Sarah Jane.
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Old 11-06-2013, 02:14
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I loved the Sarah Jane Adventures. As I've said on here before, I thought they were frequently a lot more entertaining, enjoyable, coherent, well-acted, thought-provoking and mature than a number of post-2005 episodes of Who. It's a pity some people regard them as nothing but fodder for CBeebies.
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Old 11-06-2013, 02:58
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My son and I have had a marathon watching them all day, I find them just as great as some episodes and I love seeing familiar faces in the episodes.


You know it seems there is quite a large amount of people who are very critical of Doctor Who, and spin offs. But they choose to watch it, and be a fan. Hmm why watch something you do not enjoy.
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Old 11-06-2013, 04:31
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I did enjoy this episode and I think it proves it's a shame we never got to see RTD writing for the 11th in the main series.
This little "taster" RTD/11 combination is at times hilarious (Baked ) and poignant (the scene on the alien planet where the Doctor truly opens up to both Sarah Jane and Jo.)

The Shansheeth or whatever they are were for the kids but then they were merely window dressing anyway, the episode was more about the trinity of 11, SJ and JJ

I just wish they didn't hold the doctor's appearance back until the end of episode 1 so we could have even more fun with him.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:54
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I loved the Sarah Jane Adventures. As I've said on here before, I thought they were frequently a lot more entertaining, enjoyable, coherent, well-acted, thought-provoking and mature than a number of post-2005 episodes of Who. It's a pity some people regard them as nothing but fodder for CBeebies.
Seconded.

I loved that story. I absolutely wept: so lovely, sentimental and full of heart. The excitement of seeing Jo Grant was mroe than enough for me, and I felt the story could have done without the Doctor!
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Old 11-06-2013, 14:19
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A great example of Matt Smith's brilliance. When he's talking with Jo all alone you can tell that Pertwee's Doctor is 'in there' somewhere, not like an impersonation but something deeper.

And who but the Third Doctor could say 'You're an idiot!' so affectionately?
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Old 13-06-2013, 08:32
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It's The Doctor's "Hello" to Jo in their coversation that is so Third!
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Old 13-06-2013, 18:58
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It's The Doctor's "Hello" to Jo in their coversation that is so Third!
Indeed, its a nice balance to Tennant's "Hello Sarah Jane" in School Reunion, that is so Fourth.
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Old 14-06-2013, 04:54
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It's The Doctor's "Hello" to Jo in their coversation that is so Third!
I'm working my way to thirds seasons in classic, I can't wait to watch it and see their adventures together. I think it's lovely to show how a companion gets a long after the doctor. An insight into Sarah Jane is such a huge treat with this show. I really hope we get some Ian and Barbara I'm the 50th even if its a glimpse.
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Old 14-06-2013, 08:01
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Its such a shame we lost Sarah Jane. It was a wonderful show, and I think it was the perfect place to mix-in some classic Who stuff for us older viewers too.

If the show had continued, Ace (Sophie Aldred) was going to guest star in the next season!
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Old 14-06-2013, 08:51
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Dear Ace, referenced in the Death of the Doctor by Sarah Jane as Dorothy running A Charitable Earth,
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Old 14-06-2013, 09:14
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I'm working my way to thirds seasons in classic, I can't wait to watch it and see their adventures together. I think it's lovely to show how a companion gets a long after the doctor. An insight into Sarah Jane is such a huge treat with this show. I really hope we get some Ian and Barbara I'm the 50th even if its a glimpse.
Really nice to see you enjoying C20th DW!

It would be lovely to see Ian and Barbara again, but I think the closest we'll get is their guest appearance in the recent DWM comic strip, which ended with
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Jacqueline Hill died 20-ish years ago, so there will be no return for Barbara. William Russell is appearing in the An Adventure In Space And Time, so that'll be good to see.
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Old 14-06-2013, 09:20
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Ian had a brief Cameo (voice) halfway through Series 7B http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01s...urth-dimension
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Old 14-06-2013, 09:21
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Jacqueline Hill died 20-ish years ago, so there will be no return for Barbara. William Russell is appearing in the An Adventure In Space And Time, so that'll be good to see.
According to Sarah Jane, they haven't aged a day since the 60s. So the could get a couple of new, younger actors to play modern-day versions of them #Heresy
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Old 14-06-2013, 09:32
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According to Sarah Jane, they haven't aged a day since the 60s. So the could get a couple of new, younger actors to play modern-day versions of them #Heresy
Wash your mouth out with soap and water.
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Old 14-06-2013, 09:35
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Wash your mouth out with soap and water.
I knew it was wrong, even as I typed it
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Old 15-06-2013, 05:40
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I guess I'm a minority here but I didn't much care for this episode. For starters, I didn't like the portrayal of Jo. In Classic Who, Jo is a little flighty but not the total flake that she's portrayed as in "The Death of the Doctor". The scene at the funeral was particularly ridiculous. And so I definitely didn't like that change in her character.

Also, I don't think the 11th Doctor was really all that nice or affectionate with her, first with calling her "baked" or whatever, implying she looks really old. I know Jo said that he looked like a baby but a woman calling a man young-looking is hardly the same as a man calling a woman old-looking.

In addition, when Jo and the Doctor were talking and the Doctor was moving his head up and down, I got the impression he was thinking "Come on, come on, just wrap it up." Certainly at no time did I get the impression that the 3rd Doctor (who was clearly upset and sad when Jo left him originally) was in there somewhere.

Also, when Jo and Sarah told the Doctor that they felt they would always know if he died (or something like that, I forget the exact words), they were clearly looking for a little validation from the Doctor that they still mattered to him and he ignored that and made some general comment instead. Finally, I don't think the interaction between the 11th Doctor and Sarah was anything great either.

I'm not really surprised though as I don't think the new Who is always respectful to the Classic Who characters. After all, Sarah Jane in "School Reunion", after first being portrayed as having pined away over the Doctor for decades, is then shown as being less important to the Doctor than Rose (the idea that while the Doctor might have left Sarah Jane behind, he would NEVER do that to super-duper, extra-special Rose). As both a Sarah fan and a Classic Who fan, that really irritated me, particularly as I think Sarah Jane is about 100 times better than Rose.

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Old 16-06-2013, 20:39
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I don't think the 11th Doctor was really all that nice or affectionate with her, first with calling her "baked" or whatever, implying she looks really old. I know Jo said that he looked like a baby but a woman calling a man young-looking is hardly the same as a man calling a woman old-looking.
Funny, but it was the 'baked' line which immediately cemented their friendship to me.
You'd only ever address a friend in that way. It was as if he'd immediately picked up emotionally - like he'd seen her only yesterday.
It was this ribbing which really sold me on his deep, enduring affection for Jo.

As for being 'respectful' of classic characters... It's not always the Doctor *way* to be sensitive to others; his companions included - so I think the fine line between acknowledging fans' deference - and being true to the Doctor's inate bluntness is something that's always going to get up some fan's noses.
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Old 16-06-2013, 20:54
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Funny, but it was the 'baked' line which immediately cemented their friendship to me.
You'd only ever address a friend in that way. It was as if he'd immediately picked up emotionally - like he'd seen her only yesterday.
It was this ribbing which really sold me on his deep, enduring affection for Jo.

As for being 'respectful' of classic characters... It's not always the Doctor *way* to be sensitive to others; his companions included - so I think the fine line between acknowledging fans' deference - and being true to the Doctor's inate bluntness is something that's always going to get up some fan's noses.

Right, I think 11 is quite the type to point out a flaw in his companion and its quite endearing for example...


Rorys nose...Amy being a big ging, rivers big hair, Clara's nose...
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Old 16-06-2013, 22:56
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Inspired by this thread, I rewatched this earlier this evening.

By gum, it was good. The warmth between the Doctor and his two old friends just shone out. Extra poignant because of the loss of Sarah Jane in real life, of course.

It was actually this episode that made me first fall in love with the 11th Doctor. It had an emotional content that I had been missing in Matt's first series.
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Old 16-06-2013, 23:15
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I enjoyed the story enough, but didn't think it was a patch on The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith, with the Tenth Doctor crossover. I just felt the rogue UNIT soldier wasn't fleshed out enough as a character and that the Shansheeth were poorly designed - I love a bit of puppetry, but they even used the small plastic diamond things you can buy out of Poundland, and it was unconvincing almost to the point it was distracting for me. On top of that, the alien planet was poorly done as well...with a poorly added red filter added to the camera to "warm up" whichever Welsh quarry they decided to use. I know the show has a limited budget, but it had managed alien worlds and convincing bad guys many times before, and here that proved to be a let down.

Given how much the Doctor's death has played a role in the affairs of Series 5, 6 and 7 it also now makes the story feel so incredibly low key. I'll watch it for the brilliant acting from Matt, Lis and Katy as well as from the kids and Laila Rouass... but the acting was the only thing I really took away from this story and enjoyed. It was, for me, the second weakest story of the stellar fourth series
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