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Old 11-06-2013, 20:24
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There is one thing that really ticks off and that is FARTING ALIENS being used as a weapon to be negative about series 1.

They were included in 1 story and they didn't even fart it was the humans skin which caused it.

Series 2/7 have had even more silly things like blowjobs from pavements, Cybermen killed by love and dinosaurs in spaceships.
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Old 11-06-2013, 20:35
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I don't think anyone is bothered about whether it was their fault that they farted, more that the decision was made to include flatulence jokes in the first place.

Secondly, when counting Blon Fe Fotch, Slitheen appeared in three episodes of series one. That's almost a quarter of the series featuring them.

I did like the Slitheen in 'Revenge Of The Slitheen' though. They still farted, but they were better suited to SJA, and the costumes had improved in leaps and bounds (include the child slitheen).
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Old 11-06-2013, 20:45
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There is one thing that really ticks off and that is FARTING ALIENS being used as a weapon to be negative about series 1.

They were included in 1 story and they didn't even fart it was the humans skin which caused it.

Series 2/7 have had even more silly things like blowjobs from pavements, Cybermen killed by love and dinosaurs in spaceships.
Wrong. It was caused by their being compressed into such a small space/ size, i.e the human form, as well as faulty compression units. The Slitheen themselves describe what a nuisance the "gas exchange" is.

I'M SHAKING....MY.....BOOTY......!

And personally, I HATE people using dinos on a spaceship to show how "silly" the episode is, cos that doesn't work. Taking into account the Silurians are already established as being technologically advanced to us, and the impending disaster they thought was coming, the idea that they created a "noah's ark" to preserve the Dinosaur species isn't really silly at all.
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Old 11-06-2013, 21:16
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They were included in 1 story and they didn't even fart it was the humans skin which caused it.
They were included in two stories (Boom Town being the other), totalling three episodes. They're therefore in almost a quarter of the episodes.

Series 2/7 have had even more silly things like blowjobs from pavements, Cybermen killed by love and dinosaurs in spaceships.
Those episodes all come in for a lot of flack too, but in any case the other elements you mention are not prolonged.
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Old 11-06-2013, 21:29
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Series 1 had a burping dustbin too. That was just as silly and cringe-worthy.
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Old 11-06-2013, 21:40
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Boom Town is underrated, probably because it features a Slitheen.

Christopher Eccleston put in a great performance as did Annette Badland. Good story too.
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Old 11-06-2013, 21:59
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Boom Town was a fantastic episode. One of my favorites from S1. The other aspects of the Slitheen were a good idea and quite creepy. But the toilet humour was horribly misplaced. It wasn't just totally unfunny but it was very un-Doctor Who. The show has been many things but never puerile. This was the only time it has been. Leave the fart jokes on the Disney channel and Adam Sandler films where they belong.
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Old 11-06-2013, 22:02
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Boom Town is underrated, probably because it features a Slitheen.

Christopher Eccleston put in a great performance as did Annette Badland. Good story too.
I agree. Even my Dad, who is an old-fashioned type of fellow who craves more pure historical episodes (like Marco Polo), very much enjoyed the concept of the Doctor taking an enemy out on "a date". It made very good character-digging dialogue.

"That's how you live with yourself. Cus once, in a blue moon, when the wind's blowing in the right direction...you happen to be kind."

"Only a killer would know that..."
Fantastic.
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Old 11-06-2013, 22:02
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Also the idea that having a wonderfully silly concept like Dinosaurs on a Spaceship is comparable to farting aliens is nonsense. One appeals to children in a wonderful and simplistic sense. The other is childish in an annoying way.
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Old 11-06-2013, 22:05
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I agree. Even my Dad, who is an old-fashioned type of fellow who craves more pure historical episodes (like Marco Polo), very much enjoyed the concept of the Doctor taking an enemy out on "a date". It made very good character-digging dialogue.



Fantastic.
Brilliant quote! I don't know why Boom Town isn't more loved...it was quite a pivotal episode for me getting into the new version of Who. It had a mixture of levity and dark drama that was very RTD and made me realize the show could and would go to interesting and exciting places that went beyond 'oooh look! Spaceships! Monsters! Boom!'.

It might sound mad but you could rewrite Boom Town as a political thriller/drama and it would retain its soul and character. And I thought it was brave at the time to have an episode like that and still do. In the face of so much running down on TV it marked out DW as very very smart.
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Old 11-06-2013, 22:16
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"would you mind not farting while im saving the universe"
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Old 11-06-2013, 22:40
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Absolutely nothing wrong with Dinosaurs On A Spaceship. It had humorous moments but it wasn't silly.
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Old 11-06-2013, 22:40
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Brilliant quote! I don't know why Boom Town isn't more loved...it was quite a pivotal episode for me getting into the new version of Who. It had a mixture of levity and dark drama that was very RTD and made me realize the show could and would go to interesting and exciting places that went beyond 'oooh look! Spaceships! Monsters! Boom!'.

It might sound mad but you could rewrite Boom Town as a political thriller/drama and it would retain its soul and character. And I thought it was brave at the time to have an episode like that and still do. In the face of so much running down on TV it marked out DW as very very smart.
Rather shallowly, I love the episode for it being the only one in Who history which has the Doctor speaking Welsh. Albeit briefly...
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Old 11-06-2013, 22:42
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"would you mind not farting while im saving the universe"
*** "...the world"

This was that lovely period in NuWho where the rest of the universe was pretty much fine. I miss those times.
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Old 11-06-2013, 22:52
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Series 1 had a burping dustbin too. That was just as silly and cringe-worthy.
I've always found that moment stops my suspension of disbelief.. along with the ninth doctor looning around in the background with that arm in another scene. Just some bits like
that could have been avoided and really were quite embarassing to watch.. The rest of it was oh, so, good though..
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Old 11-06-2013, 23:01
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Absolutely nothing wrong with Dinosaurs On A Spaceship. It had humorous moments but it wasn't silly.
No it was an awful episode the only redeeming feature was the concept of a Silurian Ark apart from that it was a dreadful episode from story line to directing to the acting itself. I ended up warming to Arthur Weasley (sorry I can't remember his character's name or the actor's name but essentially he was playing Arthur Weasley in my opinion) in subsequent episodes but he just didn't work in the episode and could easily have been removed.

Oh yeah and farting aliens on Doctor Who was a massive mistake end of discussion.
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Old 11-06-2013, 23:11
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No it was an awful episode the only redeeming feature was the concept of a Silurian Ark apart from that it was a dreadful episode from story line to directing to the acting itself. I ended up warming to Arthur Weasley (sorry I can't remember his character's name or the actor's name but essentially he was playing Arthur Weasley in my opinion) in subsequent episodes but he just didn't work in the episode and could easily have been removed.

Oh yeah and farting aliens on Doctor Who was a massive mistake end of discussion.
Nothing wrong with the storyline or the acting.
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Old 11-06-2013, 23:12
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Nothing wrong with the storyline or the acting.
Couldn't disagree more - nothing personal though
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Old 11-06-2013, 23:15
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To borrow a quote I heard from someone once: 'There's no point in being grown-up if you can't be childish sometimes.'

Nothing wrong with Dr Who being silly on occasion, just as there's nothing wrong with it being dark sometimes, or scary, or sentimental, or triumphant. Just as long as there isn't too much singing.
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Old 11-06-2013, 23:19
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No it was an awful episode the only redeeming feature was the concept of a Silurian Ark apart from that it was a dreadful episode from story line to directing to the acting itself. I ended up warming to Arthur Weasley (sorry I can't remember his character's name or the actor's name but essentially he was playing Arthur Weasley in my opinion) in subsequent episodes but he just didn't work in the episode and could easily have been removed.

Oh yeah and farting aliens on Doctor Who was a massive mistake end of discussion.
Just to reopen the discussion, I rather liked DOAS and didn't mind the farting slitheen. They gave it a reason and included it in the story what's wrong with that.
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Old 11-06-2013, 23:19
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To borrow a quote I heard from someone once: 'There's no point in being grown-up if you can't be childish sometimes.'

Nothing wrong with Dr Who being silly on occasion, just as there's nothing wrong with it being dark sometimes, or scary, or sentimental, or triumphant. Just as long as there isn't too much singing.
Ok the farting is just one step too far and even though in principle I agree with the singing I did quite like The Rings of Akhaten even though I feel I shouldn't.

Just to reopen the discussion, I rather liked DOAS and didn't mind the farting slitheen. They gave it a reason and included it in the story what's wrong with that.
Ok I accept the reason was actually pretty good but there just shouldn't have been any farting, as I stated above

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Old 11-06-2013, 23:20
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To borrow a quote I heard from someone once: 'There's no point in being grown-up if you can't be childish sometimes.'

Nothing wrong with Dr Who being silly on occasion, just as there's nothing wrong with it being dark sometimes, or scary, or sentimental, or triumphant. Just as long as there isn't too much singing.
Unless its Katherine Jenkins
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Old 11-06-2013, 23:22
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Ok the farting is just one step too far and even though in principle I agree with the singing I did quite like The Rings of Akhaten even though I feel I shouldn't.
The Rings of Akhaten is rubbish end of discussion


Not really
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Old 11-06-2013, 23:23
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Also the idea that having a wonderfully silly concept like Dinosaurs on a Spaceship is comparable to farting aliens is nonsense. One appeals to children in a wonderful and simplistic sense. The other is childish in an annoying way.
Dinosaurs on a space ship was pre school quality. People that say Doctor Who is childish have a fair argument when you look at episodes like these.
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Old 11-06-2013, 23:25
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Dinosaurs on a space ship was pre school quality. People that say Doctor Who is childish have a fair argument when you look at episodes like these.
They don't though as such episodes are mercifully in the small minority and so do not contribute substantially to the overall tone of the series as a whole.
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