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Old 12-06-2013, 01:52
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She has probably three highlights in a near 30 year film career:

Evita - Won a Golden Globe but still highly overrated. She was basically given the Golden Globe as a congratulations for finally not sucking in a film. I've read quite a few times over the years that she deserved an Oscar nomination for the role but there was no way she was going to be Oscar nominated, Golden Globe win or not.

Desperately Seeking Susan - More or less plays herself, so it's hardly a stretch.

A League of Their Own - Was mainly a hit because of Tom Hanks and Geena Davis, a huge star at the time.

Why has she not been able to pick decent roles? She's ahead of a lot of people when it comes to music but it's a different story when it comes to her film career. She really is one of the best examples of what not to do if you're a pop star looking to have a successful, acclaimed film career. She currently has the most Razzies in history with seven awards, five for best actress and two for supporting actress. Maybe she should have asked Cher for some advice on how to achieve a successful movie career alongside a successful music career; after all, she has won three Golden Globes and an Oscar (as well as another nomination) for her acting. She is probably the best example of a singer who successfully moved into film, achieving both commercial and critical success.

I would argue that Jennifer Lopez has had more success in film than Madonna, at least before her movie career slowed down post 2005. Sure she hasn't won a Golden Globe (she was nominated for the critically acclaimed Selena) but she did headline well-received hits like Maid in Manhattan, Selena, Out of Sight (with George Clooney), The Cell and Shall We Dance. She was also part of other hit films like Antz and Ice Age: Continental Drift but those weren't necessarily hits strictly because of her. She's also had a few bombs and poorly received movies in her career. Still, her box office gross and acclaim has been a lot higher than Madonna's overall. The three films Whitney Houston made in the 1990s - The Bodyguard, Waiting to Exhale and The Preacher's Wife - were all box office hits. The Bodyguard was the second highest-grossing film worldwide of the 1992, grossing $410.9 million worldwide. That film and Waiting to Exhale also grossed more in the US than Madonna's Evita. Dolly Parton has also experienced success in movies. She's also been Oscar nominated twice for Best Original Song.

Even Madonna's directorial efforts have been panned by most critics. She won the Golden Globe in 2012 but that was for the song "Masterpiece" and not for her efforts in directing and writing W.E. All her other GG nominations (bar Evita) have also been for Best Original Song and not acting. She's never actually managed to score a single Oscar nomination for any of her music that's been featured in films. While I don't think "Masterpiece" and "Beautiful Stranger" were eligible for Best Song Oscar consideration due to them not being the first pieces of music played over the end credits, she still failed to score a single Oscar nomination for any of the other Golden Globe nominated songs that were eligible for Oscar consideration - "Who's That Girl", "I'll Remember", "This Used to Be My Playground" and "Die Another Day". Even Adele and Elton John have Oscars. It's not like Madonna doesn't care, she's said before that Oscar recognition would be nice.

I guess you have to admire her for sticking with acting for as long as she did, especially since 99.9% of her movies were critical and commercial flops. I guess she finally got the message, she hasn't acted for a few years now.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:47
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Janet Jackson has also won a Golden Globe for Best Original Song. Unlike Madonna, Janet's GG win led on to an Oscar nomination in 1994.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:17
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Maybe she should have asked Cher for some advice on how to achieve a successful movie career alongside a successful music career; after all, she has won three Golden Globes and an Oscar (as well as another nomination) for her acting. She is probably the best example of a singer who successfully moved into film, achieving both commercial and critical success.

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Barbra Streisand is another example of someone who's had a successful music and film career.

The only decent Madonna film (and she wasn't even the lead in it) is Desperately Seeking Susan. She's just about tolerable in that.
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:03
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Who's that girl is one of my guilty pleasure films.
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:39
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She has probably three highlights in a near 30 year film career:

Evita - Won a Golden Globe but still highly overrated. She was basically given the Golden Globe as a congratulations for finally not sucking in a film. I've read quite a few times over the years that she deserved an Oscar nomination for the role but there was no way she was going to be Oscar nominated, Golden Globe win or not.

Desperately Seeking Susan - More or less plays herself, so it's hardly a stretch.

A League of Their Own - Was mainly a hit because of Tom Hanks and Geena Davis, a huge star at the time.

Why has she not been able to pick decent roles? She's ahead of a lot of people when it comes to music but it's a different story when it comes to her film career. She really is one of the best examples of what not to do if you're a pop star looking to have a successful, acclaimed film career. She currently has the most Razzies in history with seven awards, five for best actress and two for supporting actress. Maybe she should have asked Cher for some advice on how to achieve a successful movie career alongside a successful music career; after all, she has won three Golden Globes and an Oscar (as well as another nomination) for her acting. She is probably the best example of a singer who successfully moved into film, achieving both commercial and critical success.

I would argue that Jennifer Lopez has had more success in film than Madonna, at least before her movie career slowed down post 2005. Sure she hasn't won a Golden Globe (she was nominated for the critically acclaimed Selena) but she did headline well-received hits like Maid in Manhattan, Selena, Out of Sight (with George Clooney), The Cell and Shall We Dance. She was also part of other hit films like Antz and Ice Age: Continental Drift but those weren't necessarily hits strictly because of her. She's also had a few bombs and poorly received movies in her career. Still, her box office gross and acclaim has been a lot higher than Madonna's overall. The three films Whitney Houston made in the 1990s - The Bodyguard, Waiting to Exhale and The Preacher's Wife - were all box office hits. The Bodyguard was the second highest-grossing film worldwide of the 1992, grossing $410.9 million worldwide. That film and Waiting to Exhale also grossed more in the US than Madonna's Evita. Dolly Parton has also experienced success in movies. She's also been Oscar nominated twice for Best Original Song.

Even Madonna's directorial efforts have been panned by most critics. She won the Golden Globe in 2012 but that was for the song "Masterpiece" and not for her efforts in directing and writing W.E. All her other GG nominations (bar Evita) have also been for Best Original Song and not acting. She's never actually managed to score a single Oscar nomination for any of her music that's been featured in films. While I don't think "Masterpiece" and "Beautiful Stranger" were eligible for Best Song Oscar consideration due to them not being the first pieces of music played over the end credits, she still failed to score a single Oscar nomination for any of the other Golden Globe nominated songs that were eligible for Oscar consideration - "Who's That Girl", "I'll Remember", "This Used to Be My Playground" and "Die Another Day". Even Adele and Elton John have Oscars. It's not like Madonna doesn't care, she's said before that Oscar recognition would be nice.

I guess you have to admire her for sticking with acting for as long as she did, especially since 99.9% of her movies were critical and commercial flops. I guess she finally got the message, she hasn't acted for a few years now.
What film career ? There is a distinction between a Film Career and simply appearing in films.

From recollection, Desperately Seeking Susan starred Roseanne Arquette, a role which would have suited Cyndi Lauper more.

And, from recollection, Kevin Costner cast Whitney Houston in The Bodyguard ....and, for some inexplicable reason, Kevin Costner was prepared to take a chance in offering Madonna the role. Thankfully, he didn't.
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Old 12-06-2013, 08:43
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David bowies had a much better film career.

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Old 12-06-2013, 09:08
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While no particular fan of Madonna, I've always felt the mockery of her film career has reeked of jealousy. It's a kind of "Oh, you might be the biggest music star in the world, but you haven't cracked the movies, have you?", probably accompanied by a raspberry or some other childish noise.

It's true, she hasn't exactly set Hollywood alight. But her film career seems to be measured by different criteria than others. Take her cameo as Verity, the Lesbian fencing instructor in Die Another Day. The consensus is that she's terrible. But really? In all fairness, could anyone else have done a better job of that tiny cameo, in which every line was a clunky double-entendre?

At the other end of the scale, I happen to think she was magnificent in Evita. The original rock-opera was not exactly a profound character study itself, so what she brought to the role was the star quality which Eva Peron, a blonde fascist who'd slept her way to the top, had and which fooled so many of the people for so much of the time. And I found W.E much better than I was expecting.

Maybe one has to be neither a die-hard Madonna fan or a hater to judge her film career objectively. And, being objective, I don't think she's anything like as bad as some would have one believe.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:31
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While no particular fan of Madonna, I've always felt the mockery of her film career has reeked of jealousy. It's a kind of "Oh, you might be the biggest music star in the world, but you haven't cracked the movies, have you?", probably accompanied by a raspberry or some other childish noise.

It's true, she hasn't exactly set Hollywood alight. But her film career seems to be measured by different criteria than others. Take her cameo as Verity, the Lesbian fencing instructor in Die Another Day. The consensus is that she's terrible. But really? In all fairness, could anyone else have done a better job of that tiny cameo, in which every line was a clunky double-entendre?

At the other end of the scale, I happen to think she was magnificent in Evita. The original rock-opera was not exactly a profound character study itself, so what she brought to the role was the star quality which Eva Peron, a blonde fascist who'd slept her way to the top, had and which fooled so many of the people for so much of the time. And I found W.E much better than I was expecting.

Maybe one has to be neither a die-hard Madonna fan or a hater to judge her film career objectively. And, being objective, I don't think she's anything like as bad as some would have one believe.
I am neither a die hard fan or hater, but both as an actress and director she is embarrassingly awful.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:39
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Madonna chose some awful films imo and she has even admitted that as well in several interviews.

She can't do serious acting, but she can do comedy like Susan and of course musicals like Evita. It was doing serious films like Body of evidence and Swept away is where she was at her worst. It was Swept away that actually made Madonna no longer act.

However i thought W.E was a fantastic film, a huge highlight for me from last year's films.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:39
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I never understood why in her music videos that have a narrative and require acting ; she's good in. Why hasn't this translated to the big screen? I did however enjoy her in Desperately Seeking Susan and A League Of Their Own. Who's That Girl is a total guilty pleasure of a film too.
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:30
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When given the right role, she was a perfectly good actress.
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Old 14-06-2013, 10:38
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David bowies had a much better film career.

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David Bowie is a better actor than Madonna.
Come to think of it he is altogether way more talented than her.

Madonna's career has been based on hard graft.
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Old 14-06-2013, 13:38
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I AM a huge madonna fan, but never really been a big fan of her movie roles/directing.
Desperately Seeking Susan was a perfect role for her - but it has aged badly and is forever stuck in the 80's now.
Shanghai Surprise - loved it, although the story was all over the place and the troubles reported at the time showed on screen. Not as bad as everyone thinks though - give it a go.
Evita - love the film but it's basically a 2 hour music video so she should have been good in it!
The Next Best Thing - wanted to love it, but the story and plot were just all over the place - and her character was completely unlikable in it!
League of Their Own - think her part got cut quite a bit - but the film is great and madonna has more of a cameo in it despite the hype.
Who's That Girl - again stuck in the 80's and very dated - not bad but nothing special.
W.E - not really my kind of film - but enjoyed it and was much better than the critics would have you believe
Swept Away - plays an awful character with no redeeming qualities put this film in the don't bother category
Die Another Day - good cameo, but the film stank and it's not down to madonna - but the invisible car and stupid plot
Up For Grabs (play) - went to see this about 10 years ago - awful and boring play, but madonna was fantastic in it - much better looking in real life, good acting and knew her lines - was on stage nearly the whole time - just didnt like or care about her character or the plot - but not her fault - blame the material!
Dick Tracey - role written for her and she vamped it up perfectly - again the script and film sucked but not because of her!
Thats about all I've seen of her - the rest have either not seen or got bored and switched off!
In my opinion, she's not the best actress (just like she's not the best singer, dancer, writer, etc.) but given the right material she could shine on-screen - but she will never be given the chance and the press will always hate it BEFORE they've even seen it anyway!
C'mon David Fincher (director of Vogue/Express Yourself and Seven, Social Network, Benjamin Button etc) - give her a role in your next movie!!!!!
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Old 14-06-2013, 13:41
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Yeah, he's done some great films.

I think she has been decent in some of those films, mainly Evita. But most of them have been shit films!
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Old 14-06-2013, 17:58
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Madonna did turn down some films that became big hits. One of them being Basic Instinct. I think she would of done a better job than Sharon Stone.
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Old 14-06-2013, 18:05
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She did do Body of Evidence. She got her tits out in that and you also saw her bush!
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Old 14-06-2013, 19:15
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The only reason. She was good in Evita was because it was mainly singing and because it resemble her life
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Old 14-06-2013, 19:25
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She has kinda won two Oscars for songs. You Must Love Me and Sooner Or Later.

And she was robbed of an Oscar nomination for leading actress in regards to Evita. No one is saying she would have won but she should have been nominated. It was pure spite that she wasn't. Problem was that America was still reeling from the Sex stuff.
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Old 14-06-2013, 19:59
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Evita aside, she's much better in supporting roles.

Desperately Seeking Susan, A League Of Their Own, Dick Tracy, Bloodhounds Of Broadway - and, to an extent Four Rooms (she's very camp in that but she is playing a witch) are all good performances.
Dangerous Game is a difficult one to judge - but it's a difficult film overall!

Swept Away, Next Best Thing, Body Of Evidence and Who's That Girl are all disastrous vanity projects.
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Old 14-06-2013, 20:17
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^^^^ I actually think her greatest performance was in Dangerous Game. The film itself is so confusing but amazing at the same time. Its a real shame the potential of it wasn't reached.

Few clips of it are on the net but this is a good one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUzkxNIY7Ps
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Old 15-06-2013, 17:58
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As much as i loved her in Evita, she didn't deserve an oscar nomination. Madonna was very much the last resort and she did a great job. But the other actresses who were in the running, would have done an even better performance. Liza Minelli, Babs streisand, Meryl streep and loads were all up for the role. Michelle Pffeifer even recorded demo's for the soundtrack but dropped out as she didn't want to film the movie abroad.
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Old 15-06-2013, 18:05
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Madonna's problem is that an actor needs empathy to convey emotion, and she has no empathy so can't convey emotion. If you watch Body of Evidence for example, her acting is terrible - until the last 10 minutes where it's revealed her character is actually a money hungry superbitch. She could handle that part, perfectly.
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Old 15-06-2013, 18:09
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Not sure how many people watched BoE for Madonna's acting ability
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Old 17-06-2013, 21:05
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Madonnas acting career and music career have been two of a kind.
Madonna rose to fame when the music video explosion happened in the 1980's. She has a music career that is very visual. To transfer this over to acting in a movie. That must be be so different and perhaps harder that she anticipated.
I am only guessing on that!

For me personally. Her best acting was in The Next Best Thing.
She was relaxed and I believe was good friends with her co star Rupert Everett. This must have helped.

Madonna should perhaps only take small roles in movies.
She is too famous!

Great that she directed WE.
She took a gamble.
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Old 23-06-2013, 12:13
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As much as i loved her in Evita, she didn't deserve an oscar nomination. Madonna was very much the last resort and she did a great job. But the other actresses who were in the running, would have done an even better performance. Liza Minelli, Babs streisand, Meryl streep and loads were all up for the role. Michelle Pffeifer even recorded demo's for the soundtrack but dropped out as she didn't want to film the movie abroad.
I strongly disagree. Madonna was Eva. She was a victim of the usual Oscar snub that happens every once in a while. Everyone at the time said so. I mean could you have seen Liza or Bab's become Eva Paron? Bab's is an incredible actress and amazing singer but she wasn't Eva. The musical was about more than just acting. It was about conveying real emotion through a voice. Michelle has always been a weak singer. She is no where near Madonna's league. Infact Madonna's voice on slower ballads is partly the reason Evita was a success. Not many can portray emotion in their voice the way Madonna can. You Must Love Me is an incredible moment for Madonna's career. The funniest thing about the Madonna/Michelle thing is that Tim Burton wanted Madonna to be his Catwoman but she couldn't do it. So Michelle got the role.
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