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Old 12-06-2013, 21:51
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Since when was that a criteria for success?
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Old 12-06-2013, 22:04
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Since they didn't sell any
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Old 12-06-2013, 22:09
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Haha...bizzare
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Old 12-06-2013, 22:26
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Bigged up for 'nearly' selling something ?
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Old 12-06-2013, 22:37
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Well I think Leah sold it. It wasn't her fault that the finance fell through.
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Old 12-06-2013, 22:39
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Well I think Leah sold it. It wasn't her fault that the finance fell through.
I thought that was what it meant. She actually closed the deal, too bad the credit rating of the customer wasn't good enough.
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Old 12-06-2013, 22:44
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I'll head down to my nearest private jet store and make the salesman's day...for a minute, shall I?

Nonsense.
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Old 12-06-2013, 23:08
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Leah and Myles are both very lucky not to have been brought in. The claimed reason for being Natalie in was scaring the bike woman off, when i5 was clearly Leah's negativity that both put the bike woman off and led Natalie to try to mitigate it by softening the attempt to give discounts. 'Can we offer a discount, you know what it's like at the end of an exhibition day" simply translates to "I have no confidence in my ability to sell your product at the market price". Once those words were out of Leah's mouth, they lost the bike lady Her answer was 'Well, yes, I know what it's like and I continue to sell my bikes, thanks". Leah should totally have been in the firing line.

Myles stuck with his stance that he knew how to sell high end products and blamed product choice for the failure of the task. There were younger people at that event, you saw a glimpse of a few of them chatting to Neil and the other team sold a decent amount of their kids boxes. The retro camper was a great product with loads of USPs, attracted a lot of interest and should have been a seller. Myles lack of interest or empathy with his customers meant he sold nothing.

Kurt was absolutely the correct choice to be fired. Miserable, sullen and ignorant of his product, has shown no sales acumen at all throughout the process, pulling the age card on Alex, who at least was passionate about the product - I'm glad he's gone. Natalie was unlucky to be brought in, but I can't say she's a great loss.
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Old 12-06-2013, 23:17
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How can Leah be praised for this if indeed it is the case the buyer couldn't get the credit. Isn't that something she could be blamed for not finding out about / sussing After all Miles was criticised for not being able to ascertain who was there to actually buy.

Leah's buyer could just have been a time waster too.
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Old 12-06-2013, 23:49
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How can Leah be praised for this if indeed it is the case the buyer couldn't get the credit. Isn't that something she could be blamed for not finding out about / sussing After all Miles was criticised for not being able to ascertain who was there to actually buy.

Leah's buyer could just have been a time waster too.
Leah didn't have the ability to credit check people on the spot. I would assume you don't either. I have my own business and I don't. And it would be a very rude line of questioning for a potential customer that would lead to them not being a customer.
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Old 12-06-2013, 23:51
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Leah didn't have the ability to credit check people on the spot. I would assume you don't either. I have my own business and I don't. And it would be a very rude line of questioning for a potential customer that would lead to them not being a customer.
Exactly. Except her shooting herself on the foot by scaring oof the bike seller (lousy product anyway), I don't think she could be blamed for 'nearly' selling the high ticket item. She sold the £600+ fibreglass 'boat' thingie as well.
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Old 13-06-2013, 00:38
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When Jason's client was paying, i thought the voiceover was steering towards a hint that the deal may not have gone through. And it seemed (from the edit) to have been too easy a sell, which is often a red light for a customer buying a high value item. If they ask no questions, say yes to everything, challenge nothing but don't give any oositive indications why they are buying the product, an experienced salesperson will have an idea that the sale may not go through.

I am very glad that Jason's customer was kosher, he had the right approach for selling at this level. I don't blame Leah at this stage for not spotting any warning signs. However, as Natalie was brought in for losing the bike woman, when it was actually Leah who brought the negative vibe into both pitches that lost them their desired products, Leah deserved to be brought to the boardroom. Lord Suralan's giving her credit for 'nearly' selling a high end item doesn't change that at all, and she is very lucky to have escaped tonight.
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Old 13-06-2013, 00:50
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The whole thing about equating Leah's 'sale' with being a better salesperson is a bit of a falsehood, really.

I'm not knocking Leah's selling skills - she has proven before that she is rather good at sales - but high-value considered purchases like these at shows are often made at the end of the day. It's not often someone will stroll in at 10am and decide on the spot that they want to spend £17k (or whatever it was). More likely they will stroll around, have a look at any other similar products available, think it over, and make the purchase relatively late in the day.

Leah came in at the right time to make a sale. It could just have easily been Myles or Kurt (less likely the latter). Equally, if Leah had been there all day that doesn't mean she would have been any more successful than the boys.
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Old 13-06-2013, 00:55
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Leah and Myles are both very lucky not to have been brought in. The claimed reason for being Natalie in was scaring the bike woman off, when i5 was clearly Leah's negativity that both put the bike woman off and led Natalie to try to mitigate it by softening the attempt to give discounts. 'Can we offer a discount, you know what it's like at the end of an exhibition day" simply translates to "I have no confidence in my ability to sell your product at the market price". Once those words were out of Leah's mouth, they lost the bike lady Her answer was 'Well, yes, I know what it's like and I continue to sell my bikes, thanks". Leah should totally have been in the firing line.

Myles stuck with his stance that he knew how to sell high end products and blamed product choice for the failure of the task. There were younger people at that event, you saw a glimpse of a few of them chatting to Neil and the other team sold a decent amount of their kids boxes. The retro camper was a great product with loads of USPs, attracted a lot of interest and should have been a seller. Myles lack of interest or empathy with his customers meant he sold nothing.

Kurt was absolutely the correct choice to be fired. Miserable, sullen and ignorant of his product, has shown no sales acumen at all throughout the process, pulling the age card on Alex, who at least was passionate about the product - I'm glad he's gone. Natalie was unlucky to be brought in, but I can't say she's a great loss.
I think Natalie sussed out exactly the reason why she was brought in. Kurt knew no-one was more to blame for failing the task than him, and he felt bringing in Natalie, who he knew had been warned not to be seen in the firing line again, was his only real hope.

It's hard to say if Myles could have sold better. It might be significant that they came so near to a sale once Leah was brought over; maybe this shows Myles and Kurt could have got a sale if they'd tried harder, or maybe it was just coincidence.

I don't blame Leah at all for raising the question of a discount. If she'd done it more tactfully, and shown more enthusiasm generally, things might have gone differently. But as I've posted on another thread, I think Leah actually thought she was showing enthusiasm!

I don't think Leah or Myles would have gone if they had been brought in. Kurt was getting fired whoever he brought in, and Natalie only went because Sugar felt she'd had enough chances.
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Old 13-06-2013, 00:59
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How can Leah be praised for this if indeed it is the case the buyer couldn't get the credit. Isn't that something she could be blamed for not finding out about / sussing After all Miles was criticised for not being able to ascertain who was there to actually buy.

Leah's buyer could just have been a time waster too.
This is one of the most stupid things I've ever seen posted on this forum.
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Old 13-06-2013, 01:51
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Leah was so lucky this task, as frankly she should have gone along with Kurt. Her negativity in the product pitches was terrible, and that alone cost them the task (£3.000 compared to £1.500? in accessory sales).

I have a feeling that LS's praise at the boardroom stage for Leah decided Kurt on bringing Alex in with Natalie and sealed both of their fates.....
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Old 13-06-2013, 01:59
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Leah and Myles are both very lucky not to have been brought in. The claimed reason for being Natalie in was scaring the bike woman off, when i5 was clearly Leah's negativity that both put the bike woman off and led Natalie to try to mitigate it by softening the attempt to give discounts. 'Can we offer a discount, you know what it's like at the end of an exhibition day" simply translates to "I have no confidence in my ability to sell your product at the market price". Once those words were out of Leah's mouth, they lost the bike lady Her answer was 'Well, yes, I know what it's like and I continue to sell my bikes, thanks". Leah should totally have been in the firing line.

Myles stuck with his stance that he knew how to sell high end products and blamed product choice for the failure of the task. There were younger people at that event, you saw a glimpse of a few of them chatting to Neil and the other team sold a decent amount of their kids boxes. The retro camper was a great product with loads of USPs, attracted a lot of interest and should have been a seller. Myles lack of interest or empathy with his customers meant he sold nothing.

Kurt was absolutely the correct choice to be fired. Miserable, sullen and ignorant of his product, has shown no sales acumen at all throughout the process, pulling the age card on Alex, who at least was passionate about the product - I'm glad he's gone. Natalie was unlucky to be brought in, but I can't say she's a great loss.
Disagree as Natalie sold the least of the sub-team (£100ish) and she joined Leah in not being enthusiatic enough about the products. Leah, though seemed to sell well. I think Myles and Natalie should have been taken in on this occasion as Myles was terrible this week.
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Old 13-06-2013, 02:07
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Myles and Natalie should have been taken in on this occasion as Myles was terrible this week.
Myles has certainly enjoyed a charmed existence. In the first week, he was responsible for the batteries in cats fiasco, and on the second sent his trade team out with just an empty beer bottle. In Dubai, he wasted over an hour watching a flag being weaved.

He's a good looking boy all right, who talks a good game, but has shown very little business acumen over the weeks.
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Old 13-06-2013, 03:05
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She nearly closed a deal in less than an hour when the other 2 hadn't came close all day, I think this says a lot, people obviously had more confidence in Leah and Myles or Kurt. This is not to mention she got them some of their only sales on the task.
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Old 13-06-2013, 03:27
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Disagree as Natalie sold the least of the sub-team (£100ish) and she joined Leah in not being enthusiatic enough about the products. Leah, though seemed to sell well. I think Myles and Natalie should have been taken in on this occasion as Myles was terrible this week.

I do think it was right to take Alex in; he'd played a part in the fateful caravan choice.
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Old 13-06-2013, 05:56
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Leah was so lucky this task, as frankly she should have gone along with Kurt. Her negativity in the product pitches was terrible, and that alone cost them the task (£3.000 compared to £1.500? in accessory sales).

I have a feeling that LS's praise at the boardroom stage for Leah decided Kurt on bringing Alex in with Natalie and sealed both of their fates.....
LS definitely likes Leah.
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Old 13-06-2013, 09:13
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The didn't sale many of the "kids boxes" maybe 3 at the most, and they were bought by grandparents as presents.
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Old 13-06-2013, 09:18
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Since when was that a criteria for success?
Who said it was? They didn't have success, they failed spectacularly.
I don't think Leah was being praised, rather that the ineptitude of Kurt and Myles was being highlighted.
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Old 13-06-2013, 09:26
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I thought all of the 'pitch' team was equally responsible for the supplier choosing the other team. The three of them were like a comedy sketch, Natalie with her 'Can you give us a discount?', Leah with her 'You know what it's like at an exhibition' and Myles with his over familiar drivel about loving the product, as Nick said his pitch style was nauseating.
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Old 13-06-2013, 09:26
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The didn't sale many of the "kids boxes" maybe 3 at the most, and they were bought by grandparents as presents.
Not sure that can be stated with any degree of certainty. We saw Luisa sell one each of both the bike and the boxes, and given its high price tag I wouldn't be surprised if that was the only bike they sold. The £3,116 total they sold was never split out - my guess is they sold either one or two bikes, in which case they probably shifted around 22 or 12 boxes depending on the actual selling price (we know they started at about £100). But 3 bikes and, say, 3 boxes seems unlikely to me.

Not that it mattered, of course. Not that we knew it at the time, but Evolve won the moment Jason - yes, Jason! - completed the first trailer sale.
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