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Old 13-06-2013, 14:34
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Well, I think their reactions were pretty telling. They gave Zee a bollocking for being a sexist pig, but they didn't give a bollocking to Kurt. Perhaps the reason for this is that Kurt isn't actually a sexist pig and the "eye candy" comment was nothing more than a slip of the tongue. One sexist comment does not actually make someone sexist.
It wasn't a slip of the tongue. It was a deliberate tactic to try and increase sales - use one of the women as eye candy; reduce her to a sex object.
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Old 13-06-2013, 14:40
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How do you know he didn't? Were you there with him throughout his time on the show? Just because no sexist comments were shown, doesn't mean they didn't happen. And also, you don't have to actually say anything explicitly sexist to be sexist, either. He was pretty dismissive of both Natalie and Leah on that task and happily let Neil and Kurt's (bigger) errors slide in favour of their smaller ones.

A lot more happens on this show than we could possibly be shown. The outburst against Zee obviously came from something.
You can only go on what you are shown and not try and guess what wasn't. Kurt was overtly sexist when summoning Leah to entice the customers with her (alleged) beauty. That is sexist.

Zee behaved slightly male chauvinistic to Natalie in the cab, but it was very minor and things like that have been in the show from both genders (not letting them get a word in edgewise etc) Zee was not sexist to Leah in any way, and was rather a victim of her personal vendetta - this much is obvious.
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Old 13-06-2013, 14:57
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It did amuse me how she clearly felt she should be offended but didn't seem to be at all
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Old 13-06-2013, 14:59
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It wasn't a slip of the tongue. It was a deliberate tactic to try and increase sales - use one of the women as eye candy; reduce her to a sex object.
Well, as I said earlier, given the lack of accusations of sexism I'm more inclined to believe that this is an isolated incident and that Kurt isn't sexist.

You can only go on what you are shown and not try and guess what wasn't. Kurt was overtly sexist when summoning Leah to entice the customers with her (alleged) beauty. That is sexist.

Zee behaved slightly male chauvinistic to Natalie in the cab, but it was very minor and things like that have been in the show from both genders (not letting them get a word in edgewise etc) Zee was not sexist to Leah in any way, and was rather a victim of her personal vendetta - this much is obvious.
I know what he did was sexist, I'm not arguing otherwise. My point is that given that Zee was lambasted with these accusations and Kurt wasn't, perhaps that means that Zee actually was much more sexist and chauvinistic than we were shown.
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Old 13-06-2013, 15:14
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With all due respect to the opposite sex, but if a woman puts tons of make-up on - a' la Leah - she shouldn't be upset if men refer to her as "eye candy."
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Old 13-06-2013, 15:14
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Well, as I said earlier, given the lack of accusations of sexism I'm more inclined to believe that this is an isolated incident and that Kurt isn't sexist.
I don't know or care whether Kurt's a sexist or not. But it was an instance of sexism and Leah was being inconsistent by not saying something about it.
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Old 13-06-2013, 15:17
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I don't know or care whether Kurt's a sexist or not. But it was an instance of sexism and Leah was being inconsistent by not saying something about it.
You've missed my point, then. Her letting it slide with Kurt suggests to me that it was an isolated incident and it wasn't with Zee. That's not inconsistent, as she obviously didn't have a go at Zee for it until the end.

Also, it wasn't even Leah who accused him of sexism, it was Natalie. Leah just agreed with her.
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Old 13-06-2013, 15:20
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If one of the girls had said it about one of the guys would it be a 'sexist incident'?
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Old 13-06-2013, 15:37
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Even though Zee didn't make ANY sexist comments?
I think it's wrong of women to play the sexist card just because a guy doesn't have rapport with them.

Zee worked with the lads in the past and therefore had more of a rapport with them and got on with them.
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Old 13-06-2013, 19:56
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Even though Zee didn't make ANY sexist comments?
Change the record will you? You are duller than a dull thing!
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Old 13-06-2013, 19:58
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Well, as I said earlier, given the lack of accusations of sexism I'm more inclined to believe that this is an isolated incident and that Kurt isn't sexist.



I know what he did was sexist, I'm not arguing otherwise. My point is that given that Zee was lambasted with these accusations and Kurt wasn't, perhaps that means that Zee actually was much more sexist and chauvinistic than we were shown.
Or maybe something else was going on other than anything specific Zee did or said? Have you considered that?
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Old 13-06-2013, 19:59
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Or maybe something else was going on other than anything specific Zee did or said? Have you considered that?
Like what?
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Old 13-06-2013, 20:01
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I couldn't make out whether Leah was annoyed or secretly flattered.
Probably a bit of both
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Old 13-06-2013, 21:28
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I don't know or care whether Kurt's a sexist or not. But it was an instance of sexism and Leah was being inconsistent by not saying something about it.
edit- perhaps inconsistent but she may have had valid reasons.

Things aren't always so black and white. Let's assume she did go over the top on the sexist thing with Zee before (personally I don't think so but for arguments sake just bear with me..)

Who says that because she mentioned it (and in the Board Room no less) that she would think it wise to play that card again. Would you want to be known as the person that got through by playing the sexism card as opposed to getting through on ability?

There are numerous possibilities as to why she may have raised her eyebrows and decided not make an issue of it or to bring it up again.

-Perhaps she didn't want LAS to think when she's in trouble that's the only card she can play?
-Perhaps as the other poster suggests, there were other incidents with Zee that made her think he was like that and yet this was a bit of a surprise coming from Kurt (just my opinion but to me it looked like it came as a bit of a shock.
-Maybe this wasn't as big a deal to her as the previous perceived slights against the fairer sex?

The truth of the matter is I have no idea as to what her motives were for reacting as she did and not making a song and a dance over Kurt's perceived sexism.

My point is- none of us do.
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Old 13-06-2013, 21:29
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I think it was more a case of 'Oh really' and then if he had brought her into the boardroom, theres more ammunition to use against him, no need to show your hand right from the get-go.
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Old 13-06-2013, 21:31
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I think it was more a case of 'Oh really' and then if he had brought her into the boardroom, theres more ammunition to use against him, no need to show your hand right from the get-go.
Another distinct possibility, and probably more accurate than any of my possible guesses above!
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Old 13-06-2013, 21:45
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Change the record will you? You are duller than a dull thing!
Do one.
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Old 13-06-2013, 21:57
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It's no secret that women like to be complimented - even in a professional arena. However Natalie was really asking for it when she asked why they hadn't brought her over instead. I remember holding my breath at what the response would be and and then thinking 'Phew' when it was skilfully fielded.'
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Old 14-06-2013, 00:42
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Leah has every right to enjoy being complimented on her looks, and I actually warmed to Natalie for not taking it too personal.
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Old 14-06-2013, 00:54
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While Kurt's comment was phrased in an unfortunate way, I'd question whether it reveals that Kurt is sexist. Doesn't it suggest rather that Kurt has a view of his own gender as being foolish and easily led by a pretty face (an entirely accurate view, to be honest, in many cases if not most!)? It doesn't mean he necessarily thinks that's all women are good for.

With Zee, on the other hand, we saw him ignore Natalie and sideline her. That doesn't prove him sexist - maybe he just despised Natalie as an individual - but it was certainly poor manners. I think, sexist or not, it was worse than Kurt's non-PC remark.
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Old 14-06-2013, 04:22
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Natalie was definitely offended at not being considered as eye candyish as Leah. Speaking as a female I can't blame her. It was pretty insulting, when there was only two girls on the team, to so blatantly go for one over the other as the attractive one.

I couldn't make out whether Leah was annoyed or secretly flattered.
Secretly flattered.......not a word came out of her at that moment, just a well disguised smile!!
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Old 14-06-2013, 10:55
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Leah has every right to enjoy being complimented on her looks, and I actually warmed to Natalie for not taking it too personal.
Perhaps, but it has nothing to do with business.
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Old 14-06-2013, 12:02
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did she ?

Who was more insulted by that stupid suggestion do you think ... her or Natalie ?
I say Karren in the Boardroom when Nick threw in the Grenade & revealed what was said, her face was a picture, & bet she wanted to slap Kurt. I'm surprised more wasn't made of the comment in the Boardroom.
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Old 14-06-2013, 12:13
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It's a sense of proportion, probably that stopped Leah from making a big case out of it. Zee took two women into the boardroom (and was sacked for bringing the wrong people in) while letting off and making excuses for the men who had made mistakes in the task. That's somewhat more catastrophic than the other instance of sexism towards Leah. Also Leah has been a model so knows that her looks are an element of how she is perceived and potentially an asset and source of success for her in business and life, even though she also probably thought that she should have been valued for her selling ability, which she does have, from what we have seen.
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Old 14-06-2013, 12:40
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I'm really confused as to why so many people find Leah attractive.

Trout mouth, face like a squashed arse, ridiculous make up and hair extensions. The archetypal WAG. She's the exact opposite to what I'd consider eye candy.

This is then compounded by the fact she's a miserable wretch of an individual with zero personality/charisma. She's extremely lucky that most of the competition is very poor too.
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