So how many, and which, of the apprentices sold nowt ?

I think that should have been made clear

Did anyone spot it ?

Kurt and Myles sold nothing.

having "suffered" around those events for years
the biggest sellers are always the most basic boring things.
like plates/glases/ sleeping bags Chemical toilets/liquid they really do make a bloody fortune.

Motorhomes are also a big seller. Models like the Swift Escape one firm sold 12 in a day at a cost starting from 24,000 upto 34,000

Reason enough for Miles to have been brought back to the board-room then ?

Were there any others, do you know, ( from either team ) who sold nowt ?

Jordon?

This wasn't purely a selling task at all, as Sugar described it. Selling was important, yes, but ultimately this was all about selecting the right products - and in particular the retro camper versus the collapsible trailer. (As it turned out, the accessories were pretty much irrelevant.)

Neil made an objective decision based on the facts - previous rate of sale, suitability for target market. Kurt allowed Alex to sway his decision based on little other than the fact that Alex preferred the camper van. As Sugar pointed out in the boardroom, Neil loved it too - but it didn't stop him from making what turned out to be the right decision.

A veteran salesman at these shows said on another forum -- as Nick did in the episode -- that qualification is the key, since only around 20 per cent of visitors are there to buy anything, so that if anyone shows an interest, you sit them down with a cup of tea and then establish their intent before spending a whole hour or more with them.

In the final hour, Leah "almost" sold a campervan, which we take as code for the sale was agreed but the finances fell through (maybe the buyer got cold feet: who knows?) . If she'd been there all day, and sold two or three, they'd have won.

We should be careful not to take Myles's word that it must have been a bad product because he, Myles, is a great salesman.

Yes, it was the wrong choice but not by a huge degree, based on vendors' sales to date of 11 @ £11,000 = £121,000 for the folding gadget as against 6 @ £17,000 = £102,000 for the campervan. This is margin of error territory: one more van sale and they are level-pegging.

Well, we don't actually know this. I'm sure LS said everyone sold something on Evolve, so I'd imagine he sold at least a couple of units.

Yeah, the only two, I think were Kurt and Myles. Myles was very fortunate to escape that boardroom, in my opinion

Agreed. Although I think there were two versions of the camper van, the cheaper of which was something like £13,000. Regardless, your logic still stands but Neil's does also - the greater rate of sale suggests a lower degree of risk. To take it to its extreme, you'd be more confident of generating something from a £100 product which typically sells 100 units a day than a £10,000 product which typically sells one a day, even though the projected daily sales are £10,000. But there wasn't as much in it as the episode suggests.

In fact, this task annoys me slightly because it was clearly always likely to hinge on one or two huge sales - the accessories part was almost irrelevant. That meant that there was quite a high degree of randomness in the task outcome. That's the case in many tasks, true, but this one even more so.

Annoyingly, one team had to have the retro one anyway, so even if both had packed the collapsible caravan, one wouldn't have been picked and so would have still ended up with thecretro van

Yes, that's true, although as with the accessories part of the product selection part of the task was about making the vendor feel more comfortable going with your team rather than the other - same as with the accessories. As things turned out, Kurt and Alex never forced the vendor to make that choice.

I found it funny that 2 of the products had featured on 'Dragon's Den", the 'Boys Military Box" and the "Roof Box". Those "Boys Boxes" were massively over priced £100 for a bunch of old tat? and I think they only sold 1 maybe 2 as they sold 2 of the "roof boxes".

The roof box was being sold by Endeavour, not Evolve. The kids' box was paired with the electric bike. But, yes, £100 seemed ridiculously overpriced.

Ah yes sorry, but even so they still only sold 2 or 3 at the most, as they did sell a bike.

Did they? I thought they had free choice of anything there. Didn't Kurt say in the boardroom that he narrowed it down to the retro van and the collapsible caravan?

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Where on earth did you get this information from? There were more than 2 caravans that the teams looked at. Unless you are suggesting that producers demanded that at least one team picked the retro caravan (Which I personally don't believe)

Yes, we saw Jason look inside some small, silver caravans, so there must have been at least three to choose from.

I sometimes wonder if candidates regret having lost colleagues in earlier firings. If I'd been in Kurt's shoes, I'd have been praying for Rebecca to come back and sell £17,000-worth of campervan.

Still wouldn't have been enough.

One bike was only £949 though, out of £3,116.

I'm not sure Rebecca's style would have worked, though. She was a medical sales rep, I think? That's largely feet-on-street selling boxes of product to lots of small individual customers, quite a hard-sell approach. These products required more of a soft-touch approach - all about building rapport and taking time to listen to a customer's requirements. It's why Jason was actually quite good at it, as Claude pointed out on YF.

I thought and someone else on another post has just mentioned, that they only sold £1300 worth of product.

Endeavour sold £1,479 of roof-box boats and folding chairs. That was the Alex, Leah and Natalie sub-team.

Evolve sold £3,116 of electric bikes and those kids' kits (plus £30k-plus of trailers). That was the Luisa, Jordan and Francesca sub-team.

I think you're getting teams and products mixed up. Easily done at this stage with Sugar chopping and changing the teams every 5 minutes. Sometimes I wonder if candidates occasionally get into the wrong cars by mistake after an Apprenti-Shuffle!

I think Myles would have acquitted himself too well in the boardroom, having been strong for most of the series, Kurt feared that. Also, from what we saw, Myles was trying hard to sell, whereas Kurt didn't not engage the customers at all.