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Yeah one is the biscuits. The other is the trip to France IIRC, where they had the folding car seat. Helen made a major sale to the online store, and Susan sold millions of those little wire hanger things that could hold your ipod.
Drifting off-topic but looking at those numbers, I'm wondering if Jedi Jim, Tom, Susan and Helen were the strongest ever final four. |
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I imagine that Susan's and Helen's French sales were genuine, as were last night's caravans, whereas the biscuits were amongst the far-too-common hypothetical orders that litter the series.
Drifting off-topic but looking at those numbers, I'm wondering if Jedi Jim, Tom, Susan and Helen were the strongest ever final four. ![]() Still the biccies did give us the infamous Harry Potter tie in, which IMO is the greatest blag in apprentice history. ![]() On the side note, Tom was lucky to survive the French week, he was PM of the other team, and let his team talk him out of car seat in favour of postcards and china teapots. He was also on the losing team for the biccies, the half and half, can't make up our minds, let's do a improv skit, oh gawd it was painful to watch. |
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Drifting off-topic but looking at those numbers, I'm wondering if Jedi Jim, Tom, Susan and Helen were the strongest ever final four.
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You mean you don't watch every episode with the candidates' photos and profiles printed out in front of you? That's just me?!?
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I imagine that Susan's and Helen's French sales were genuine, as were last night's caravans, whereas the biscuits were amongst the far-too-common hypothetical orders that litter the series.
Drifting off-topic but looking at those numbers, I'm wondering if Jedi Jim, Tom, Susan and Helen were the strongest ever final four. |
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2011 had two very strong groups of candidates. You can't say the final four on that series of Young Apprentice because three people came joint fourth, but I think that Zara, James, Haya, Lizzie and the two Harrys were the best ever final six.
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As a rule of thumb, it's probably safe to assume that all sales to consumers are genuine and all sales to trade are hypothetical. Given how hurried and amateurish the team's pitches usually are, no retail/wholesale buyer worth their salt would actually make a real purchase based on their presentations!
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Year-for-year given their age, I'd say the 2011 YA crop was the best final six we have seen on any version of the show.
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The exception to that is the calendar task in Series 2. That was specifically stated to be genuine sales, because they were raising money for Great Ormond Street Hospital.
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I agree. I preferred Young Apprentice to the adult version. I thought that the young candidates were more interesting to watch. Also I liked it that there were less candidates, so you could become more focussed on certain people than you can on the adult show. Shame it was axed, but maybe if the adult show starts to get popular again the BBC might see fit to give it another shot some time.
I didn't enjoy the last series of YA anywhere near as much, as I thought too many of the candidates had traded in their youthful innocence and behaved more like Mini-Me versions of their adult counterparts, but I certainly enjoyed the first two very much. (I interviewed Harry Maxwell before the series two final and he came across much better than the pantomime villain he was portrayed as on the show, and he was surprisingly relaxed about it all - he understood that's just the way reality TV works.)I doubt the BBC will bring it back, sadly. (Whadaya think this is, Doctor Who?!?) With the main show's ratings steadily declining, I think its days are numbered. I suppose we could take a year or two off and bring back YA as the 'main' format, though - but in my opinion (usually wrong!) that seems unlikely. We'll all be hooked on a different show by then. |
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Yes, you're right. But the general rule still holds, no?
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I didn't enjoy the last series of YA anywhere near as much, as I thought too many of the candidates had traded in their youthful innocence and behaved more like Mini-Me versions of their adult counterparts, but I certainly enjoyed the first two very much. (I interviewed Harry Maxwell before the series two final and he came across much better than the pantomime villain he was portrayed as on the show, and he was surprisingly relaxed about it all - he understood that's just the way reality TV works.)
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I doubt the BBC will bring it back, sadly. (Whadaya think this is, Doctor Who?!?) With the main show's ratings steadily declining, I think its days are numbered. I suppose we could take a year or two off and bring back YA as the 'main' format, though - but in my opinion (usually wrong!) that seems unlikely. We'll all be hooked on a different show by then.
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Drifting off-topic but looking at those numbers, I'm wondering if Jedi Jim, Tom, Susan and Helen were the strongest ever final four.
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Oh absolutely - that was my favourite year and the Final Four that year were definitely the best ever!
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I'd like to see a final three - with NONE of the past (crap) fired previous candidates.
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I'd like to see a final three - with NONE of the past (crap) fired previous candidates.
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I can't agree with you that they behaved like their adult counterparts - I think quite a lot of them seemed genuinely mature,
I don't think the BBC will choose to bring it back either, but a boy can dream! To be fair, The Apprentice gets more ratings than Big Brother has got since moving to Channel Five, and that is still being recommissioned. I think Lord Sugar is happy to go on for a good while, so maybe when the contract ends with the BBC, he and Mark Burnett will approach another channel. It worked out for BB as I said, even though that's not getting the ratings it once did. And if it moved to another channel, who's to say that the bosses won't give YA another chance? ![]() TA on Five? It's not beyond the realms of posiblity, but good God! I have this vision now of 16 Luisa lookalikes striding across the Millennium Bridge - it would be in keeping with the way Five have taken BB. The task for week 1 could be about opening their own beauty salon, the task for week 2 could be about putting on an event for Z-list celebs, week 3 could be to produce a rival to Heat magazine ... I'm joking. I think.
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As a rule of thumb, it's probably safe to assume that all sales to consumers are genuine and all sales to trade are hypothetical. Given how hurried and amateurish the team's pitches usually are, no retail/wholesale buyer worth their salt would actually make a real purchase based on their presentations!
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TA on Five? It's not beyond the realms of posiblity, but good God! I have this vision now of 16 Luisa lookalikes striding across the Millennium Bridge - it would be in keeping with the way Five have taken BB. The task for week 1 could be about opening their own beauty salon, the task for week 2 could be about putting on an event for Z-list celebs, week 3 could be to produce a rival to Heat magazine ...
![]() Actually I think that this series of BB may be a little more realistic than normal; they apparently have to grow their own vegetables and things. We'll have to wait and see tonight! If The Apprentice did move to a different channel, I hope that the main show would be a bit longer - at least 90 minutes. It would presumably have ad breaks, and we see little enough of the tasks as it is. |
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TA on Five? ... The task for week 1 could be about opening their own beauty salon, the task for week 2 could be about putting on an event for Z-list celebs, week 3 could be to produce a rival to Heat magazine ...
I'm joking. I think. ![]() |
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(I interviewed Harry Maxwell before the series two final and he came across much better than the pantomime villain he was portrayed as on the show, and he was surprisingly relaxed about it all - he understood that's just the way reality TV works.)
Also, he has been romantically linked with Caroline Wharram, and she said that he told downright lies to the press about their connection - she is a ghastly woman, so I have no idea which of them is lying, but one of them must be - if not both. |
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I disagree with you here. I'm sure you know better than me if you've actually met him, but reading interviews, he comes across as a real snob to me, just like he did on the programme. I don't like his style at all; I don't find it endearing.
Also, he has been romantically linked with Caroline Wharram, and she said that he told downright lies to the press about their connection - she is a ghastly woman, so I have no idea which of them is lying, but one of them must be - if not both. |
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Based her performance on BB I'd be more confident that Caroline would lie than Harry M who had poor communication skills but wasn't a liar or actively malicious.
As I said, I didn't think much of Harry M at all. He had some good ideas and he didn't deserve not to have a loss, but I also think he was someone who was impossible to work with and didn't deserve to get as far as Week 7. Also, I think there is a perception that he was picked on more than he actually was. People say that he was repeatedly brought into the boardroom tactically, but if you actually look at the whole series, the only Project Manager to do that was Hannah. He was only in the boardroom three times (not counting Week 7); in Week 2, Lewis was a weak PM, it was understandable that he felt intimidated by Harry, and he didn't have a reason to bring in Harry H or James, so I don't dispute that boardroom decision. The other time, Harry M himself was PM, so would have been in the boardroom regardless of anyone else. When he was reviewing Series 3, one thing that he said that made me laugh was that he thought the treats were awful this season! It made me think, 'Which was your favourite treat, Harry?' |
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Possibly, but you do realise that that is an offensive term, right? I won't make a thing out of it as I've heard people use it before who don't realise, but you might want to think about editing that post.
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I'm not sure those tasks do not sound slightly more interesting than some of those we've seen. Selling is vital for a business but marketing, design and so on should get an occasional look-in too.
That's why I've always enjoyed the more creative tasks - product design, advertising etc - because they allow the less natural salespeople to come to the fore and show what they're capable of too. You've probably not seen it, but I wrote a piece a few months back about what they could do if they wanted to seriously revamp the show. My big idea - which would need a LOT of work to make it practical, I admit - would be to turn the series into one big task to develop an entrepreneurial business and see it through from the idea to launch. That would test overall business skills, not just selling, and would (to my mind at least) be much more satisfying than all these fly-by-night tasks where nobody cares about what state their 'business' finishes in with respect to customer satisfaction and building ongoing loyalty. Here's the link: http://slouchingtowardstv.com/2013/0...ped-the-shark/ |
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I disagree with you here. I'm sure you know better than me if you've actually met him, but reading interviews, he comes across as a real snob to me, just like he did on the programme. I don't like his style at all; I don't find it endearing.
Also, he has been romantically linked with Caroline Wharram, and she said that he told downright lies to the press about their connection - she is a ghastly woman, so I have no idea which of them is lying, but one of them must be - if not both. |
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Hmm yes well I would say that as well, but who knows?
As I said, I didn't think much of Harry M at all. He had some good ideas and he didn't deserve not to have a loss, but I also think he was someone who was impossible to work with and didn't deserve to get as far as Week 7. Also, I think there is a perception that he was picked on more than he actually was. People say that he was repeatedly brought into the boardroom tactically, but if you actually look at the whole series, the only Project Manager to do that was Hannah. He was only in the boardroom three times (not counting Week 7); in Week 2, Lewis was a weak PM, it was understandable that he felt intimidated by Harry, and he didn't have a reason to bring in Harry H or James, so I don't dispute that boardroom decision. The other time, Harry M himself was PM, so would have been in the boardroom regardless of anyone else. When he was reviewing Series 3, one thing that he said that made me laugh was that he thought the treats were awful this season! It made me think, 'Which was your favourite treat, Harry?' |
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