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Olympics 2020 - Istanbul, Madrid or Tokyo?


View Poll Results: Where do you want the 2020 Olympics to be held?
Istanbul, Turkey 13 15.48%
Madrid, Spain 24 28.57%
Tokyo, Japan 47 55.95%
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Old 13-06-2013, 14:21
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So, where would you like the 2020 Olympics to be held?

My personal preference is Tokyo. I think they would hold a spectacular Games.
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Old 14-06-2013, 20:25
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Madrid


The lack of major time difference would make for good TV viewing.
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Old 16-06-2013, 16:35
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Istanbul - provided they can afford it and the country does not disintegrate between now and then!

I would not see it right for Madrid to have it as Spain has hosted Olympics fairly recently, and I believe the country has greater issues to sort out with its economy before taking on a major spend.

Tokyo would be good except the time difference.
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Old 17-06-2013, 19:50
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Istanbul would be fantastic culturally but they really need to sort themselves out politically. Spain has massive financial problems.

I would say Toyko would be the favourite as it will be well run and will keep the sponsors and IOC happy even if it's not ideal for TV viewers in Europe or the US or a cheap place for visitors to get to.
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Old 18-06-2013, 03:26
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i'm okay with instanbul or tokyo, not madrid, it's been too soon since the olympics were last in spain.
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Old 22-07-2013, 22:15
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Tokyo please. Their opening ceremony would be something to behold I imagine. Already decided if they get it we will do all we can to go and see the games there.
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Old 22-07-2013, 22:59
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One of the most difficult IOC votes ever, & probably the first one where it's about the "least worst" city rather than the "best". I think Tokyo will get it in the end as the safest choice, but it could be close.
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Old 28-07-2013, 10:10
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Tokyo please. Their opening ceremony would be something to behold I imagine. Already decided if they get it we will do all we can to go and see the games there.
Ditto!
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Old 28-07-2013, 20:33
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Tokyo...thus allowing Paris Centennary Games 2024
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Old 29-07-2013, 08:23
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Madrid


The lack of major time difference would make for good TV viewing.
I voted Madrid. Again easier to get to
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Old 29-07-2013, 08:46
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I voted Madrid. Again easier to get to
Think that Madrid 2020 would block Paris from 2024.
France will have waitged a 100 years if it gets 2024.
Spain will have waited 28 years. Aside form USA no other countries have such a short gap between Summer Games,

St Louis 1904
28 years

Los Angeles 1932 (and 1588 miles)....nb London Madrid is about 800 miles.

52 years 1984 LA again (though 1976 North America Montreal)

only 12 years and Atlanta 1996 (but 2.176 miles).

Currently with no North America bids in 2020...24 years and counting
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Old 29-07-2013, 11:16
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Tokyo...thus allowing Paris Centennary Games 2024
Paris 2024 would be fantastic. After 2016 in the Americas and, possibly, 2020 in Asia it would be time for another Games in Europe.

Here are the declared and potential bids for 2024: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Summer_Olympics

Hopefully, the IOC isn't as corrupt as FIFA (is anything as corrupt as FIFA?) and it won't be going to Qatar.
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Old 29-07-2013, 11:29
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How are these three for accessibility? Boris was admitting on C4 yesterday that there was work to be done in London to make public transport more accessible.
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Old 29-07-2013, 13:18
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How are these three for accessibility? Boris was admitting on C4 yesterday that there was work to be done in London to make public transport more accessible.
My gut feel would be Tokyo, Madrid & Istanbul would be the ranking in terms of accessibility but I have not been to either city so have no direct experience. Cities with more modern infrastructure naturally tend to also be more accessible.
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Old 29-07-2013, 13:32
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My gut feel would be Tokyo, Madrid & Istanbul would be the ranking in terms of accessibility but I have not been to either city so have no direct experience. Cities with more modern infrastructure naturally tend to also be more accessible.
The only one I have been to is Madrid. While I wasn't looking out for accessibility it did seem to be fairly wheelchair friendly. The city is generally flat and the subways system is fairly modern.

London still has a way to go (especially with the older Tube stations) but it is far better than most major cities.
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Old 29-07-2013, 23:45
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One of the most difficult IOC votes ever, & probably the first one where it's about the "least worst" city rather than the "best". I think Tokyo will get it in the end as the safest choice, but it could be close.
Indeed definitely a big change from 2012(New York/Moscow/Paris/London/Madrid),
My money is on Tokyo too. Though some of the Olympic insider sites are saying that Madrid is making a late surge.
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Old 30-07-2013, 00:25
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Think that Madrid 2020 would block Paris from 2024.
France will have waitged a 100 years if it gets 2024.

Currently with no North America bids in 2020...24 years and counting
You're leaving out the Winter Olympics, in both France and the US they're every bit as popular as the Summer editions and are seen as equals in the eyes of the IOC. This has a major effect on the awarding of the Summer games.
The US last had them in 2002 and Paris in 1992 iirc. France's last Olympic bid was for the 2018 winter games where they crashed out in the first round with 7 votes!

The gap for the US has been more prolonged than usual due to their neighbours Rio- 2016 and Vancouver 2010.
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Old 30-07-2013, 11:03
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You're leaving out the Winter Olympics, in both France and the US they're every bit as popular as the Summer editions and are seen as equals in the eyes of the IOC. This has a major effect on the awarding of the Summer games.
The US last had them in 2002 and Paris in 1992 iirc. France's last Olympic bid was for the 2018 winter games where they crashed out in the first round with 7 votes!

The gap for the US has been more prolonged than usual due to their neighbours Rio- 2016 and Vancouver 2010.
Brazil a neighbour? What map you using?
Don't think Winter games affect Summer.
1980 Lake Placid
1984 Los Angeles

1992 Albertville (not Paris)
1992 Barcelona

2004 Athens
2006 Turin

2018 South Korea (Winter)
2020 Japan (?)

So locallity of Winter games does not affect Summer).

USA as i sadi last had Summer Games in 1996. I think they had to allow a gap for another Americas country IMO. If you look at things by continent, we saw
Americas 1996
Oceania 2000
Europe 2004 but think Athens was about resetting the Olymopics in the 21st Century
Asia 2008
Europe 2012
Americas 2016

I think the only thing is that the IOC prefer not to go back to the same continent back to back (guess selling TV rights over time zones etc).
By Septmber we will know who has the 2020 edition...but what route then. Just a few thoughts

2020 Asia or Europe? Tokyo
2024 Europe (Paris)
2028 Americas ( USA?)
2032 Is it time for Africa? Maybe South Africa? (2026 CWG's? An Alll African Games last held one 1999) Would a Gulf state bid?
2036 Oceania, Australia only show in the region. (2018 Commonwealth Games).
2040 Asia (India overdue?) or to close to Australia?
2044 Europe?
2048 South Americas like Argentina

Being so small wiill Oceania be treated as 'one' with Asia?
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Old 30-07-2013, 11:54
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Istanbul looks a little risky at this stage - and perhaps after pioneering a new frontier with a South American Olympics in 2016, the IOC will be looking for something safer.

I'd make Tokyo favourite on that basis, though I expect here's a lot of admiration for the way Madrid keeps coming back to try again. The question is whether they feel they have the financial assurances, and whether Madrid can prove an economically struggling populace is genuinely behind the bid.
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Old 30-07-2013, 13:54
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It wouldn't surprise me if Madrid came through the middle and won it. We know how unpredictable IOC votes can be. If Tokyo win I expect that there will be an almighty battle between a number of European and North American cities for 2024.
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Old 04-08-2013, 18:28
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Tokyo for me despite the time difference. I actuallt quite enjoy watching the olympics in the middle of the night
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Old 04-08-2013, 21:26
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Tokyo for me despite the time difference. I actuallt quite enjoy watching the olympics in the middle of the night
Is getting up 6am this Saturday for IAAF's any help?

If you need possible Tokyo 2020 training,
Gold Coast 2018 +9 hrs
Kazan 2015 Swimming only +3 hrs not worth altering clocks
Baku 2015 +4 hours early alarm
Beijing IAAF 2015 +7 hours

For some late nights training FINA 2017 Guadalajare - 6 hrs
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Old 04-08-2013, 21:38
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Less than 5 weeks before we know
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Old 04-08-2013, 22:11
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Is getting up 6am this Saturday for IAAF's any help?

If you need possible Tokyo 2020 training,
Gold Coast 2018 +9 hrs
Kazan 2015 Swimming only +3 hrs not worth altering clocks
Baku 2015 +4 hours early alarm
Beijing IAAF 2015 +7 hours

For some late nights training FINA 2017 Guadalajare - 6 hrs
I don't mind late nights, it's early mornings I can't be doing with. The 2002 World Cup was a non event for me, from the time I fell asleep during one of the Saturday 7am matches.

I missed all the afternoon games because I was at work, and there was nothing to watch in the evening, as it was impossible to avoid the results. Waste of time, and it was the worst WC ever as well. It felt like eight years between World Cups, and the same for me when Beijing had the Games, I saw almost nothing.

So anybody but Tokyo I'm afraid.
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Old 05-08-2013, 02:50
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Madrid. I have to go to another Olympics and madrid is close and the language barrier is less. I imagine it wuld be relatively easy to find English speakers and Spanish seems a fairly easy language to learn in any case.
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