Originally Posted by GibsonGirl:
“So, all the information I have learned is useless because I learned most of it online? But, if I had learned the exact same things in a classroom, then I would have more credibility? You might as well say that sitting in a classroom reading textbooks is useless as well because textbooks are usually compiled by experts in the exact same way that the information I have read on the internet is compiled by experts too.
As for the RSPCA. Former veterinary advisers to the RSPCA have spoken out AGAINST their actions and have said that lameness in sheep is fairly straight forward to treat! Look at what they did when a man died leaving behind ten German Shepherds. Instead of contacting breed rescues or bringing in behaviourists to evaluate the dogs, they shot them with a captive bolt gun! This quite rightly sparked an outrage. As for the truth behind the sheep. Why are you not condemning the RSPCA for lying about the photo? You know - kidding on it was live transport that killed them instead of themselves!
As for me 'losing' for mentioning Cesar Millan. The man has (like it or not) PROVEN that is possible to rehabilitate dogs that others have given up on. As for the so-called cruelty. I have yet to see any evidence of it. If there was any, his show would have ended long ago, and he would have been prosecuted for cruelty. However, The Dog Whisperer ran for more than 100 episodes and he has a new show called Cesar Millan's Leader of the Pack. Additionally people aren't killed for having behavioural problems, but it's perfectly okay to kill 'inferior' dogs? Do orphanages kill badly behaved kids for fear of them causing problems in a home? Heck no! I am sick of humans that think dogs should die because of behavioural problems. Even ex-fighting American Pit Bull Terriers are being rehabilitated successfully. Just look at Michael Vick's dogs. Most of his 50+ dogs were successfully rehabbed! A lot of them went onto be pets and therapy dogs!
If you want to harass somebody, go over to that horrendous dead dog thread, and let loose there!”
“So, all the information I have learned is useless because I learned most of it online? But, if I had learned the exact same things in a classroom, then I would have more credibility? You might as well say that sitting in a classroom reading textbooks is useless as well because textbooks are usually compiled by experts in the exact same way that the information I have read on the internet is compiled by experts too.
As for the RSPCA. Former veterinary advisers to the RSPCA have spoken out AGAINST their actions and have said that lameness in sheep is fairly straight forward to treat! Look at what they did when a man died leaving behind ten German Shepherds. Instead of contacting breed rescues or bringing in behaviourists to evaluate the dogs, they shot them with a captive bolt gun! This quite rightly sparked an outrage. As for the truth behind the sheep. Why are you not condemning the RSPCA for lying about the photo? You know - kidding on it was live transport that killed them instead of themselves!
As for me 'losing' for mentioning Cesar Millan. The man has (like it or not) PROVEN that is possible to rehabilitate dogs that others have given up on. As for the so-called cruelty. I have yet to see any evidence of it. If there was any, his show would have ended long ago, and he would have been prosecuted for cruelty. However, The Dog Whisperer ran for more than 100 episodes and he has a new show called Cesar Millan's Leader of the Pack. Additionally people aren't killed for having behavioural problems, but it's perfectly okay to kill 'inferior' dogs? Do orphanages kill badly behaved kids for fear of them causing problems in a home? Heck no! I am sick of humans that think dogs should die because of behavioural problems. Even ex-fighting American Pit Bull Terriers are being rehabilitated successfully. Just look at Michael Vick's dogs. Most of his 50+ dogs were successfully rehabbed! A lot of them went onto be pets and therapy dogs!
If you want to harass somebody, go over to that horrendous dead dog thread, and let loose there!”
**sigh** I am not harassing you, merely disagreeing with you. I am not going to get into an argument about cesar, so I will say my piece then ignore any further posts about him. Firstly: I didn't mention creulty, you jumped on that band wagon yourself, the reason he's not been charged with creulty? The us don't have the same welfare standards as us, they still believe physical punishment is ok. The fact the you think a long running tv show means he must be right prove without a doubt everything I've been saying about you having no true understanding of the issues.
Why do I think a university education is better than reading up online? SERIOUSLY? Well I've read up on reflux when my daughter was ill, should I consider myself as well qualified as a doctor? Treat it myself? I saw it on tv too....
Firstly you say that you've spent a year thoroughly researching nutrition, as you are passionate about it, then it's suddenly the RSPCA you research. What you actually do is search the net for articles that support your blinkered view. When searching for RSPCA cruelty, you are going to get the sensationalist headlines, because yes they do happen, nobody is perfect, and I wonder what state our animals would be in if there was no RSPCA. At university we may well have read the same stories, but instead of running off like a pack of wild dogs, ready to maul the nearest RSPCA officer, we are challenged to dissect the evidence, review what might of happened, find other accounts of the same event, work out what decisions might of had to be made on that particular situation. Unless you are there you cannot categorically say they were wrong, you might say that you believe there was other options, but instead of going off on a RSPCA rant, perhaps get hold of the RSPCA correspondents and put your reasonable questions to them.
Again, I say the RSPCA are not perfect, but, ey are not the devils some believe them to be, every company be they charitable or not, knows that an unhappy customer will tell 10x people about thier negative experience, those with positive experiences tend to just get on with it.
Yorkie gal, I'm glad they are doing something about the dog, but I would stres that the law may not be behind them, if he has food and water, shelter and is not in any way suffering they're is nothing they can do to force the guy to give him up. Sad, but that's not the rspcas fault it is our stupid welfare laws that do nothing to really protect animals.
what happened to the poor sheep?
