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I see. I disagree, I think in general people are aware that doctors aren't all medical (which is why i was a little miffed that someone lectured to me as such
). That is interesting about your wife decision not to use the Dr for that reason though.Medical doctors in politics include the former Defence Secretary, Dr Liam Fox, a GP, and the former Foreign Secretary, Dr David Owen (formerly a consultant neurologist) who famously used to be tapped up by MI6 for medical assessments of the health of foreign leaders he met in his duties. There are several others in both Houses of Parliament. |
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I think it's quite pretentious to use the term 'Dr' in your title. Yes, you have to have respect for someone who has a doctorate, but at the same time, I think that using the term next to your name gives the impression that you're more important than you actually are.
I respect people's right to use that term if they have a doctorate, but I respect more people who have doctorates but choose not to use them in their titles. People have a perception of what a 'doctor' is, and I think a lot of the time that word makes someone sound a lot grander than they need to be. |
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Leah is a qualified doctor. More legalistically, she is a "registered medical practitioner". That is, she is on the medical register maintained by the General Medical Council. This is the legal requirement to practise medicine in the United Kingdom. You can check the registration of any doctor at the GMC website.
To get there, she has gained a medical degree and then worked on the wards for a year. She is a junior hospital doctor, and would normally now do several more years in training jobs leading eventually to general practice (a GP, or family doctor) or a consultant post in whatever specialism she chose (plastic surgery, dermatology, or one of dozens of others). By the way, has Leah ever referred to herself as a doctor on the Apprentice? It is mainly here and elsewhere on the web she is referred to as Dr Leah. As far as I can recall, the only time it has been mentioned that Leah is a doctor was by Luisa on the opening task, when she dismissed her business credentials because she was "just a doctor". I certainly don't recall Leah ever playing that card to try to enhance her own status. |
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I think it's quite pretentious to use the term 'Dr' in your title. Yes, you have to have respect for someone who has a doctorate, but at the same time, I think that using the term next to your name gives the impression that you're more important than you actually are.
I respect people's right to use that term if they have a doctorate, but I respect more people who have doctorates but choose not to use them in their titles. People have a perception of what a 'doctor' is, and I think a lot of the time that word makes someone sound a lot grander than they need to be. |
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I think it's quite pretentious to use the term 'Dr' in your title. Yes, you have to have respect for someone who has a doctorate, but at the same time, I think that using the term next to your name gives the impression that you're more important than you actually are.
I respect people's right to use that term if they have a doctorate, but I respect more people who have doctorates but choose not to use them in their titles. People have a perception of what a 'doctor' is, and I think a lot of the time that word makes someone sound a lot grander than they need to be. In general, there are many of us who could put letters after their title but elect not to do so for the reasons you describe. I have four distinct qualifications I could put after my name, but I've never felt the need to do so because frankly I'd rather be judged on my ability to do my job than the fact I've got a few qualifications. As an aside, a friend of mine has an MA and is also a Fellow of the Institute of Actuaries. I really do wish he'd put the letters MA FIA after his name!
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played the sexism card with zee for no reason but gave kurt nothing more than a sigh when he called her eye candy
i wonder what the difference between zee and kurt is? hummmmmmmmm |
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played the sexism card with zee for no reason but gave kurt nothing more than a sigh when he called her eye candy
i wonder what the difference between zee and kurt is? hummmmmmmmm As for her not reacting to Kurt, she may have done but we weren't shown it as it wasn't relevant to the 'final three' narrative. I think there was certainly enough of a reaction from what we saw that suggested she wasn't best chuffed, but as to what followed we weren't shown the full extent of her reaction. |
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She IS a qualified medical doctor. I really don't understand your issue - it's not as if she's pretending to be a medical doctor to make herself seem 'grander than she needs to be'.
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I'm neither defending nor condemning Leah, but to be fair it was Natalie who played the sexism card and Leah nodded to show that she also believed Zee had a problem working with women.
As for her not reacting to Kurt, she may have done but we weren't shown it as it wasn't relevant to the 'final three' narrative. I think there was certainly enough of a reaction from what we saw that suggested she wasn't best chuffed, but as to what followed we weren't shown the full extent of her reaction. |
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played the sexism card with zee for no reason but gave kurt nothing more than a sigh when he called her eye candy
i wonder what the difference between zee and kurt is? hummmmmmmmm |
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played the sexism card with zee for no reason but gave kurt nothing more than a sigh when he called her eye candy.
Natalie seemed to have a bit of a chip on her shoulder about sexism; she was a bit sensitive about it. Leah didn't seem to think about it until someone else pointed it out to her (Natalie over Zee, Nick over Kurt.) I know which I prefer. |
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Natalie seemed to have a bit of a chip on her shoulder about sexism; she was a bit sensitive about it.
Most of us do this sort of thing as a natural defence mechanism: he only got a bigger payrise than me because he is a brown-noser; she only got the promotion because the boss fancies her; and so on. The possibility it is my fault because I spend all day on the DS Apprentice forum when I should be making widgets would not even occur to me. Quote:
Leah didn't seem to think about it until someone else pointed it out to her (Natalie over Zee, Nick over Kurt.) I know which I prefer.
Leah would not have known what Kurt said until Nick raised it. She thought she'd been called in to save the day because she was the "top seller".
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I haven't liked Leah from the start, not sure what it is but there's something a bit off about her.
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Having watched the Dubai episode again, I've a slightly different perspective on things. My opinion of Leah is perhaps even lower as a consequence.
Whilst Zee was still a chauvinistic Asian know-it-all rude boy as I remembered, to have Leah as a sub-team leader would drive anyone to distraction and try the patience of a saint. She was a total pain in the arse and wasn't remotely concerned with winning the task. Zee had to go as it was ultimately his responsibility for losing the task but Leah contributed nothing. If she reaches the final 5, she's very lucky indeed. |
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Having watched the Dubai episode again, I've a slightly different perspective on things. My opinion of Leah is perhaps even lower as a consequence.
Whilst Zee was still a chauvinistic Asian know-it-all rude boy as I remembered, to have Leah as a sub-team leader would drive anyone to distraction and try the patience of a saint. She was a total pain in the arse and wasn't remotely concerned with winning the task. Zee had to go as it was ultimately his responsibility for losing the task but Leah contributed nothing. If she reaches the final 5, she's very lucky indeed. |
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Natalie worked in HR so would be aware of the issue. Zee (and he was not alone) really did isolate her, so Natalie's brain, when casting about for explanations, would naturally seize on the fault lying with Zee rather than herself.
Anyhow, even if she did come from a 'traditional' HR background originally, she would know that in the workplace an allegation of sexism has serious consequences (in terms of the investigative process which must follow). I accept that the boardroom is an artificial environment and the candidates are under a lot of pressure, but a true HR professional would have been sensitive to the issue. Ah, hang on, 'professional' - that's obviously the issue ... |
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I've been more impressed with Leah since everyone else went off her to be honest. She did very little in the first few episodes other than be a half-decent salesperson (although on the numbers less good than either Rebecca or Luisa) and people loved her because she wasn't as obviously pointless as utter wastes of show space like Uzma or Sophie or as combative or lairy as Luisa or Rebecca or Natalie.
In Dubai she was right about the team needing to go to the mall. If they'd gone there they would almost certainly would have won, thanks to Myles fart-arseing around on the other team. Last week she deliberately cut the budget to the bone, which is a large part of why they won, and made the right call not to hire an expensive motivational speaker and put her faith in Neil instead. She was a bit pants again this week, but I think the *idea* of asking for discounts was a good one, she just didn't have the communication skills to carry it off. And even this week she and Alex were her team's top sellers. I think she's one of the weaker candidates left, but at least she's doing stuff now, and some of it's working, instead of pouting around in a sulky haze and occasionally closing a mid-level sale. It was also widely accepted she had no clue when she was PM for the away day task, she went against her team again in choosing the theme that had to be scrapped and ended up settling on a last minute army theme that Neill, Miles and Alex managed to pull off luckily for her. She's also just comes across as a very nasty, judgmental and vindictive person. |
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I think through his treatment of both Leah and Natalie it was very clear that Zee did have an issue working with women, more so women who weren't afraid to challenge him. To be fair to Leah if she'd heard Kurt's comments outside the boardroom I'm not sure she would've been quite so restrained about it, she didn't look very impressed.
If you're a person qualified to practice medicine then you are commonly referred to as a doctor or do those annoyed that Leah is referred to as Dr Leah go into their doctor and call them by their 1st name or Mr/Mrs so and so? I think Leah has been a steady sales woman and that has gotten her to where she is. I don't think she's a good leader, or particularly good at taking criticism. I'd be interested to see her leading another task to see how she gets on but atm I don't see her as a winner. Can I just throw this out there, what has Myles done either? He seems to get by every week without showing much promise yet we're to believe he's some big tycoon in Monaco. |
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Can I just throw this out there, what has Myles done either? He seems to get by every week without showing much promise yet we're to believe he's some big tycoon in Monaco. |
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What has Francesca contributed?
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What has Francesca contributed?
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I forget Leah is even there! A few times, I've heard mentions of her on You're Fired and have thought the person talking was getting Luisa's name wrong!
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I forget Leah is even there! A few times, I've heard mentions of her on You're Fired and have thought the person talking was getting Luisa's name wrong!
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). That is interesting about your wife decision not to use the Dr for that reason though.
