It was certainly rubbing salt into the wound making her Queen Bee and then letting her have that call from her boyfriend!

Lets hope that they give Hazel half the money tomorrow night when she leaves, now that would be one in the eye for Gina wouldn't it? Hazel walking out with half the dosh for what she has had to put up with!

Actually, I thought Emma was bending over backwards to be fair to Hazel last night. She was even getting frustrated with everyone bashing her and said so. At one point she said she was feeling sorry for Hazel but the sentiment wasn't returned by the audience and she was also surprised by Dan's reluctance to criticise Gina.

At the end, in the digital box, they made a point that there was a lot of support for Hazel online even though there wasn't much in the audience. It definitely looked to me like there was a conscious effort to be more balanced with respect to Hazel.

This is all too little too late. All we will get on the highlights show tomorrow is Gina and Hazel rowing and then Hazel will be evicted to a crowd of boos.

The only good thing is that she has exposed that appalling creature Gina. I am amazed that people still like her and some don't care that she is a blatant fake. Apparently 'keeping it real' means pretending you live in the Savoy and look down on people. Wow.

I was disappointed with Dan to be honest. He was trying to stay on the fence. Another person without a backbone letting the bullies win.

Do you not hear her making comments of her own?

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Haha just watched gina bf rapping (on the bb YouTube), so cringey.

Yeah apparently last night she said she felt sorry for her but that was the only time. Others times she been so anti and I think I wrote this before bbbots.

Emma might have been more balanced tonight, but she's not normally and it's a little too late.

Gina's late night dig - everyone's in the bedroom, her talking loud like "I can't wait for tomorrow, I think the right person will go" (ofc meaning Hazel) she must have wanted a reaction as always but Hazel just said night too the others.

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I though his "she's used to it" comment was despicable. Indeed, I have to wonder what sort of training police get if they end up with attitudes like that.

It was even worse if a little context is added, such as Dan saying "this, for her (Gina), was great to have her control everybody, especially Hazel as Lacey said." And when Emma said "I felt quite sorry for Hazel tonight", Dan's reply began with a questioning "Did you really?".

He also went along with the dubious idea that Hazel was "isolating herself" (as Emma claimed).

I read on here somewhere that Dan's OH took a dislike to Hazel so perhaps that's influenced him. The dislike could be because of the closeness (physical and mental) they showed and Dan should be able to process that.

Hmm. He didn't show such dislike when he was on BOTS. I think the claims are just because a a tweet from early in bb14 when Hazel and Dan were still establishing boundaries and something went a bit too far for him (and I think for Dan).

Tonight's BOTS (according to last night's) will have Terry Christian, Nina Myskow, and Callum.

Can anyone here remember what Terry and Nina's views of Hazel have been? I suspect the producers have lined up a tougher grilling for her than Aisleyne would have provided.

Yes, last night. But even the night before, Emma acted like she didn't know what the caller was talking about re BOTS bias.

Anyway, it's become clear from various things Emma's said that she's been getting criticism online for bias; and I suspect that, and expressions of support for Hazel online, are behind the change in Emma's attitude. (It wouldn't do to alienate too many viewers.) She was still saying things like "we all love Gina", though, as if other views didn't exist.

There's also a lot of subtle bias. For example, in the dance segment last night, the clip at the start showed Dexter, Charlie and Gina dancing in sync, with Hazel joined by Sophie (both starting later) dancing in the background. Emma asked about the effect on the mood of the house. He answered reasonably, though he ends with the questionable claim that it brought them all together. Then Emma asked him what stood out, and he waxed lyrical about Dexter and the other two being into each other and bonding as a tiny trio, "fantastic". Emma: So they've got their friendship back on track by their moves. Dance guy: without a doubt; absolutely.

So: Why that scene and camera angle in particular? Why not stop with the balanced comments they guy had already made? Why the leading question about getting their friendship back on track? Why no comment on Gina moving to the front of the three (closer to the camera)? Why not show what Hazel and Sophie were doing? (Were they dancing together, for example? It looked like they might be.) Why not notice that Sophie chose to join Hazel rather than the others? Why didn't Emma question his claim that the dancing bound them "all" together?

There are a lot of little choices in something like that, and the ones that are taken can be quite telling.

Then we had nonsense after nonsense, spin on spin, in his comments about which dances the HMs were. (Note, btw, how he included the idea that Hazel was "cold".)

The audience was still very biased; and even if they don't "cherry pick" (as Emma said to the caller), they have many of the same people back again and again and must know what they'll get. When they showed a clip of Gina saying "you're a dirty-arsed skank, and I want nothing to do with you, so shuush", most of the audience applauded. Those are the sorts the show invites back time after time.

The had Sophie's nan (guaranteed to be anti-Hazel) on. And on the panel, Lacey who struggled to remember which one Charlie even was yet still thought Hazel should go, Callum who was bound to favour Charlie, and Dan who'd sided more with Charlie on Twitter and was bound to say what he'd been saying for weeks, that it was time for Hazel to go.

Yeah, if you watched them dancing live, they were all dancing in formation for a while, then Hazel and Sophie broke away. But they only show what they want to.

Ah ha! So they could indeed have made a very different point by showing a different part of it, or even by showing more.

I didn't see it live but one of the News photos on the website showed them all in a line, including Hazel, so I did think it a bit misleading to show a shot with Hazel dancing separately.

That wasn't my take on it. It seemed to me that Emma was well aware of the complaints of bias and took the call as an opportunity to explain that there was no bias on her side but that they don't have control over the opinions of the audience.

Personally, I haven't missed a single episode of BOTS and I have never detected any such bias from Emma. Yes, she didn't approve of the flirting with Daley but, at the same time, was keen to point out that Daley was at least as much to blame. I don't recall any other opinion either positive or negative about Hazel from Emma.

I'm sorry but I think Emma does an exceptional job as presenter. Obviously she can't help having her own view of events, and maybe that bleeds out occasionally, but I think she's very fair about making sure everyone's views are heard without editorialising.

Right now I have no idea if she likes Hazel or not. That's how biased I think she is.

I hope we can pull a rabbit out of the hat tonight guys and keep her in. The look on Gina's face would be priceless.

I did not mean Emma acted like she wasn't aware of accusations of bias. I meant she acted like she didn't know why anyone would think there was bias, and she asked the caller for examples as if she didn't know what the caller was talking about. She also claimed they didn't "cherry pick" the audience as if that was the only way they could get a biased one.


You wrote "She asks the audience and panel for comments and they give comments" as if she never made any comments of her own. And what you say there about what Emma said re Daley leaves out everything that people complained about in Emma's comments. Even re the flirting, what she said was not that that Daley was as much to blame; it was that Hazel was. She was making it clear that (in her view) Hazel deserved a good share of the blame.

I've explained the problems with Emma's comments in her interview with Daley before, for instance here and here, so I won't type it in again.

Emma also behaved questionably in her interview with Daley's girlfriend, and it was very obvious that she was siding with the Katie and against Hazel. She even gave her own opinions of what was difficult to watch and how Hazel seemed -- and that's what led Katie to tears. I've explained this before too, so again I can just link.

If I'd ever thought that even in the Hazel AT someone would question whether Emma was biased, I'd have kept notes of other instances. I find BOTS so distasteful and unpleasant to watch that I try to put most of it out of my mind. But I will try to make one thing clear: the comments that show bias against Hazel aren't only comments about Hazel: they're also comments about other HMs, especially ones Hazel's clashed with, such as her comments about Charlie in I think Wednesday night's show (saying she didn't feel Charlie was manipulative or sly), and the comments from psych "experts" and others she agrees with.


Her views don't just bleed out occasionally. She expresses many opinions, and it's usually clear which side of a disagreement she's on. Rylan is actually (and surprisingly) better at making it clear that other opinions (other things his and the audience's and panel's) exist.


She either doesn't like Hazel or she hasn't been voicing her own opinions but instead ones the producers want expressed.

I've often defended Emma in the past, but I've lost a lot of respect for her during bb14. In addition to her own bias, the show as a whole is very biased, and she goes along with it.

I've found the bias v Hazel easy to detect and I do think Emma is a good presenter, just one that it toeing some sort of party line, for whatever reason.

She definitely (IMO) blurred the edges around the Daley/Hazel flirting so that it seemed as if Hazel could also be held to have been one of the two that tangoed, when it came to his unilateral aggression.

I think maybe the complaints to Channel 5 may have had something to do with it. As someone said we don't know if Emma even likes Hazel we have never heard her say anything positive about her until last night. I get the impression she does not like Hazel.

We really need to keep voting to get Charlie out for a number of reasons.

That was a misinterpretation of what she said. Two to tango was about the flirting, not the aggression, as Emma confirmed the next episode.

It's not clear that all of the times she said "it takes two" or similar were about the flirting; and even if they were, Emma also seemed to be saying the flirting meant the actions that got Daley thrown out were partly Hazel's fault. I explained this in the posts I linked earlier.

Note that kimindex's post said she "blurred the edges around the Daley/Hazel flirting so that it seemed as if Hazel could also be held to have been one of the two that tangoed". I think that's a reasonable view, given what Emma actually said in the inteview.