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Old 21-08-2013, 11:19
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I posted this on another thread

I just watched Hazel's interview in TV3 and she came across very well. very positive and upbeat.

She said she was surprised at some of the things they didn't show, like Daley's alter-ego Max !!

Does anyone know anything about this ?
I don't know what she meant by that?
Seems a lot of important stuff was edited out.

She looked gorgeous, even though she wasn't giving much away.

Here's a link where you can watch the interview.

http://www.tv3.ie/3player/show/184/67503/1/Ireland-AM
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Old 21-08-2013, 11:26
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I posted this on another thread

I just watched Hazel's interview in TV3 and she came across very well. very positive and upbeat.

She said she was surprised at some of the things they didn't show, like Daley's alter-ego Max !!

Does anyone know anything about this ?
Watched it this morning and Hazel was shocked at some of the editing she said. A good looking model is put in Bb to be a hate figure for women. The minute even minuscule flirting takes place, the hate starts. What does that say about us women eh, its pathetic. But beautiful sexy women have no margin of error, have they. They are all watching like hawks for a slip up. Not all women of course, some of us have some cop-on.

Hazel was getting dislike threads from week 1, when she was sharing her clothes with the other girls. There was no reason for it but there it was. Several threads were started about her looks, why was that. None of the other girls got those threads even the unfortunate looking ones.

Daley or not, some other reason would have been found to slate and attack her. She would have to be a plaster saint to survive BB unscathed or stay in bed like Sam.

I hate to say this but Irish girls get it worse than ones from the Uk.

I have to say hazel was too honest on the show. If I was getting constantly stung on a higher setting Gina bargained her dinner for. I would have fainted mid afternoon and spent the rest in crying jags sitting on the floor of the loo curled in sad ball.. I would have milked it and made Gina and Bb look like Stalin. Offcom would be inundated with complaints.

The same with the snake week, crying on the hour, every hour, Bb would stop targeting me pretty soon. No edit would have me dry eyed. You play them at their own game.

Being so stoic was to Hazels detriment Imo. She was too straight in what was a manipulative game show. BB were disgraceful in their treatment from having that silly bint crying on BBOTS to giving Gina a jealous bully power over the one she hated. What task was Gin not in charge of or what task did not allow her to target people.
Only the twins spoke up against it and backed Hazel which is why I don't mind them. The rest feared Gina too much and the power Bb had given her.
BB use you up and hang you out to dry but they would not do it to me. If Gina called me skank ec on Tv, she would need new hair extensions on that ratty head. I would tear out the old ones. That was when she finally removed my boot from her backside.
I noticed the female presenters on Morning Am, were pretty annoyed over it all and I don't blame them.
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Old 21-08-2013, 11:32
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I don't know what she meant by that?
Seems a lot of important stuff was edited out.

She looked gorgeous, even though she wasn't giving much away.

Here's a link where you can watch the interview.

http://www.tv3.ie/3player/show/184/67503/1/Ireland-AM
I think they are contracted not to speak about certain things.
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Old 21-08-2013, 11:40
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What the hell Max Daley Daley Max. someone needs some help I think.
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Old 21-08-2013, 11:58
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I think they are contracted not to speak about certain things.
Yes, I'm certain that's the case.

I also noticed she said that it was misleading about the time she'd spent out of the safe house after the incident.
They may well have kept her in the diaryroom most of the night?
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:06
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Yes, I'm certain that's the case.

I also noticed she said that it was misleading about the time she'd spent out of the safe house after the incident.
They may well have kept her in the diaryroom most of the night?
I heard that. I think she was set up from the start. I wish they would go back to the old format of minimal interference etc.

What did they hope to achieve by giving so much power to one HM this year and totally vilifying another ?
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:14
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What the hell Max Daley Daley Max. someone needs some help I think.
Roleplay me thinks, maybe even the flirting was with that character. Hazel did over eggit.
You know I think it was being done as a joke. using an alter-ego of Daleys. Sneaky BB and quite hateful but its all about the ratings and the HMS' are just to be thrown away.
They set her up to be a hate figure. But as I said above I would have played them at their own game.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:19
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I heard that. I think she was set up from the start. I wish they would go back to the old format of minimal interference etc.

What did they hope to achieve by giving so much power to one HM this year and totally vilifying another ?
They should certainly never set up someone to be the Aunt Sally. That's' where live feed comes in, because people who watch it can give a different view.

The 'official. view of Shilpa was that she was a stuck-up princess next to salt of the earth Jade, until people who watched live feed started complaining on forums.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:41
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Watched it this morning and Hazel was shocked at some of the editing she said. A good looking model is put in Bb to be a hate figure for women. The minute even minuscule flirting takes place, the hate starts. What does that say about us women eh, its pathetic. But beautiful sexy women have no margin of error, have they. They are all watching like hawks for a slip up. Not all women of course, some of us have some cop-on.

Hazel was getting dislike threads from week 1, when she was sharing her clothes with the other girls. There was no reason for it but there it was. Several threads were started about her looks, why was that. None of the other girls got those threads even the unfortunate looking ones.

Daley or not, some other reason would have been found to slate and attack her. She would have to be a plaster saint to survive BB unscathed or stay in bed like Sam.

I hate to say this but Irish girls get it worse than ones from the Uk.

I have to say hazel was too honest on the show. If I was getting constantly stung on a higher setting Gina bargained her dinner for. I would have fainted mid afternoon and spent the rest in crying jags sitting on the floor of the loo curled in sad ball.. I would have milked it and made Gina and Bb look like Stalin. Offcom would be inundated with complaints.

The same with the snake week, crying on the hour, every hour, Bb would stop targeting me pretty soon. No edit would have me dry eyed. You play them at their own game.

Being so stoic was to Hazels detriment Imo. She was too straight in what was a manipulative game show. BB were disgraceful in their treatment from having that silly bint crying on BBOTS to giving Gina a jealous bully power over the one she hated. What task was Gin not in charge of or what task did not allow her to target people.
Only the twins spoke up against it and backed Hazel which is why I don't mind them. The rest feared Gina too much and the power Bb had given her.
BB use you up and hang you out to dry but they would not do it to me. If Gina called me skank ec on Tv, she would need new hair extensions on that ratty head. I would tear out the old ones. That was when she finally removed my boot from her backside.
I noticed the female presenters on Morning Am, were pretty annoyed over it all and I don't blame them.
lol at your last paragraph I agree with everything you say.

I couldn't believe how cowed all the rest of the HMs were. Also I wouldn't have put Sinead Desmond down as a girl's girl but even she wasn't pleased at Hazel's treatment.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:43
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They should certainly never set up someone to be the Aunt Sally. That's' where live feed comes in, because people who watch it can give a different view.

The 'official. view of Shilpa was that she was a stuck-up princess next to salt of the earth Jade, until people who watched live feed started complaining on forums.
I remember that with Shilpa and couldn't believe it. I wonder will they give us more live feed for CBB or next year seeing as it was a success this year ?
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:45
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lmao at that Crunchy Nut just sitting there.
alright interview..guy was annoying.

I posted this on another thread

I just watched Hazel's interview in TV3 and she came across very well. very positive and upbeat.

She said she was surprised at some of the things they didn't show, like Daley's alter-ego Max !!

Does anyone know anything about this ?
think someone on here mentioned he was in some sort of sketch thing..probably some shit comedy character.

the thought that he had some split personality to try and excuse himself of any cheating is hilarious though.
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Old 21-08-2013, 12:54
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I remember that with Shilpa and couldn't believe it. I wonder will they give us more live feed for CBB or next year seeing as it was a success this year ?
They might do. I don't think it caused them too many problems. Not sure if it cost much.

It was ridiculous when the justification was that people had moved on to Facebook and Twitter and wanted just selected updates. It was never an 'either or' and they don't serve the same purpose.
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Old 21-08-2013, 13:08
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Yes, I'm certain that's the case.

I also noticed she said that it was misleading about the time she'd spent out of the safe house after the incident.
They may well have kept her in the diaryroom most of the night?
That would make more sense than her going straight back in. I can't see that she would have wanted to, and I can't see that BB would have let her.
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Old 21-08-2013, 13:24
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If that's true, then it makes the 'two to tango' attitude that BB promoted and allowed to continue all the more disgraceful.
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Old 21-08-2013, 13:59
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Hazel favorited my tweet about her Ireland Am interview
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Old 21-08-2013, 17:50
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lmao at that Crunchy Nut just sitting there.
alright interview..guy was annoying.



think someone on here mentioned he was in some sort of sketch thing..probably some shit comedy character.

the thought that he had some split personality to try and excuse himself of any cheating is hilarious though.
Yeah, or it could be his alter ego or when he's fighting? I do think the guy has got issues though. The amount of excuses he's come up with for his behaviour is proof of that.

If that's true, then it makes the 'two to tango' attitude that BB promoted and allowed to continue all the more disgraceful.
Doesn't it just! This is why I hate on BOTS etc when they are so opinionated when they know damn well they're not seeing the whole picture and that BB production edit everything to their own advantage.
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Old 21-08-2013, 17:51
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Oh..and now the main forum has died down a bit, someone needs to tweet Hazel the link to this thread so she can see all the support we was giving her!
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Old 21-08-2013, 18:06
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Watched it this morning and Hazel was shocked at some of the editing she said. A good looking model is put in Bb to be a hate figure for women. The minute even minuscule flirting takes place, the hate starts. What does that say about us women eh, its pathetic. But beautiful sexy women have no margin of error, have they. They are all watching like hawks for a slip up. Not all women of course, some of us have some cop-on.

Hazel was getting dislike threads from week 1, when she was sharing her clothes with the other girls. There was no reason for it but there it was. Several threads were started about her looks, why was that. None of the other girls got those threads even the unfortunate looking ones.

Daley or not, some other reason would have been found to slate and attack her. She would have to be a plaster saint to survive BB unscathed or stay in bed like Sam.
Excellent post Quasi!

Agree, but don’t think the hatred is restricted to other women. There are plenty of misogynistic men out there who react very negatively to any overt display of sexuality from a woman and that was all too apparent in the case of Hazel.

From the time she showed even the mildest interest in Daley, Hazel got what I’d call the Mel BB1 edit. In Narinda’s book Melanie talked of how the edit made it look like she gave men massages all the time. She was castigated for being flirty (she was only mildly so) and IIRC was the first ever housemate to receive boos on eviction. At the wrap party one of the producers apparently told her “When Nick went we needed another fall guy”.

I think that illustrates the producers’ POV, ie. that a sexually confident, attractive, flirtatious female is someone who can readily be turned into a hate figure. I think they applied this formula to Hazel, since there was a time where we didn’t see her do much else but flirt with Daley. That and almost that alone came to define her.

I agree about attractive young women having little margin for error. With Hazel what I saw early on wasn’t so much that people were reacting negatively to minor incidents, but that they were overreacting negatively to them. The sort of thing that would pass without much comment in another housemate was being latched onto and magnified out of proportion, thus providing a much needed rationale for disliking her. Minor wrongs were made into major wrongs etc.

It was as if many people were just looking for a more suitably palatable rationalisation for which to dislike her, rather than having to look inside themselves for the real reason as to why they felt such an underlying dislike/resentment towards her. This led to them seizing upon what they could IMO and overreacting accordingly.

I hate to say this but Irish girls get it worse than ones from the Uk.

I have to say hazel was too honest on the show. If I was getting constantly stung on a higher setting Gina bargained her dinner for. I would have fainted mid afternoon and spent the rest in crying jags sitting on the floor of the loo curled in sad ball.. I would have milked it and made Gina and Bb look like Stalin. Offcom would be inundated with complaints.

The same with the snake week, crying on the hour, every hour, Bb would stop targeting me pretty soon. No edit would have me dry eyed. You play them at their own game.

Being so stoic was to Hazels detriment Imo. She was too straight in what was a manipulative game show. BB were disgraceful in their treatment from having that silly bint crying on BBOTS to giving Gina a jealous bully power over the one she hated. What task was Gin not in charge of or what task did not allow her to target people.
Only the twins spoke up against it and backed Hazel which is why I don't mind them. The rest feared Gina too much and the power Bb had given her.
BB use you up and hang you out to dry but they would not do it to me. If Gina called me skank ec on Tv, she would need new hair extensions on that ratty head. I would tear out the old ones. That was when she finally removed my boot from her backside.
I noticed the female presenters on Morning Am, were pretty annoyed over it all and I don't blame them.
Good points well made.

BB treated her appallingly. First with the edit, then with the interview with Daley's "girlfriend", then with the snake task (with which they allowed the public to inflict some vengeance on her) and then by giving Gina the power to carry on her vendetta, such as they did with the Queen Bee task.

BB were lucky she was such a strong, resilient woman, not given to self-pity. If it had been say someone like Charlie on the receiving end of what Hazel had to put up with, they would have had a lot more tears and a possible psychological meltdown on their hands. That would most probably have led to a considerable backlash and much more damage to the show’s reputation. Tbh, something the show and its ever so cynical producers would have very much deserved.
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Old 21-08-2013, 20:04
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BB treated her appallingly. First with the edit, then with the interview with Daley's "girlfriend", then with the snake task (with which they allowed the public to inflict some vengeance on her) and then by giving Gina the power to carry on her vendetta, such as they did with the Queen Bee task.

BB were lucky she was such a strong, resilient woman, not given to self-pity. If it had been say someone like Charlie on the receiving end of what Hazel had to put up with, they would have had a lot more tears and a possible psychological meltdown on their hands. That would most probably have led to a considerable backlash and much more damage to the show’s reputation. Tbh, something the show and its ever so cynical producers would have very much deserved.
Totally agree BB set Hazel up and people jumped on the bandwagon because they believe women are only allowed to be submissive when it comes to flirting - not proactive.

I do hope Hazel is going to fight back over this and get some sort of retribution.
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Old 21-08-2013, 21:57
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Excellent post Quasi!

Agree, but don’t think the hatred is restricted to other women. There are plenty of misogynistic men out there who react very negatively to any overt display of sexuality from a woman and that was all too apparent in the case of Hazel.

From the time she showed even the mildest interest in Daley, Hazel got what I’d call the Mel BB1 edit. In Narinda’s book Melanie talked of how the edit made it look like she gave men massages all the time. She was castigated for being flirty (she was only mildly so) and IIRC was the first ever housemate to receive boos on eviction. At the wrap party one of the producers apparently told her “When Nick went we needed another fall guy”.

I think that illustrates the producers’ POV, ie. that a sexually confident, attractive, flirtatious female is someone who can readily be turned into a hate figure. I think they applied this formula to Hazel, since there was a time where we didn’t see her do much else but flirt with Daley. That and almost that alone came to define her.

I agree about attractive young women having little margin for error. With Hazel what I saw early on wasn’t so much that people were reacting negatively to minor incidents, but that they were overreacting negatively to them. The sort of thing that would pass without much comment in another housemate was being latched onto and magnified out of proportion, thus providing a much needed rationale for disliking her. Minor wrongs were made into major wrongs etc.

It was as if many people were just looking for a more suitably palatable rationalisation for which to dislike her, rather than having to look inside themselves for the real reason as to why they felt such an underlying dislike/resentment towards her. This led to them seizing upon what they could IMO and overreacting accordingly.


Good points well made.

BB treated her appallingly. First with the edit, then with the interview with Daley's "girlfriend", then with the snake task (with which they allowed the public to inflict some vengeance on her) and then by giving Gina the power to carry on her vendetta, such as they did with the Queen Bee task.

BB were lucky she was such a strong, resilient woman, not given to self-pity. If it had been say someone like Charlie on the receiving end of what Hazel had to put up with, they would have had a lot more tears and a possible psychological meltdown on their hands. That would most probably have led to a considerable backlash and much more damage to the show’s reputation. Tbh, something the show and its ever so cynical producers would have very much deserved.
Agree with everything you've said here. Great post!
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Old 22-08-2013, 01:29
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I see Daley is saying that the police have told him that he might still be charged with assault.
Course that'll just trigger a new anti-Hazel wave.
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Old 22-08-2013, 10:10
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Seems Daley was out with Charlie etc last night. Not sure Hazel will be too pleased.. Maybe they wont move in after all
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Old 22-08-2013, 10:27
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Daley was at the same place as the twins, Dan, Charlie and Sophie last night. In fairness, I don't see why Hazel should have a problem with this. Daley was friends with them in the house.
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Old 22-08-2013, 10:29
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Seems Daley was out with Charlie etc last night. Not sure Hazel will be too pleased.. Maybe they wont move in after all

Interesting, where did you see that abbieunique. The only tweets and pictures i have seen are of Charlie, Sophie, Dan, twins and Jackie. Charlie even tweeted that they were missing Hazel and to hurry back.
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Old 22-08-2013, 10:35
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Interesting, where did you see that abbieunique. The only tweets and pictures i have seen are of Charlie, Sophie, Dan, twins and Jackie. Charlie even tweeted that they were missing Hazel and to hurry back.
I just looked on his twitter.

Out with Charlie last night soooo much fun. @charlietravers4 Love uuuuuu x pic.twitter.com/sYCuxKTZbK

Fair enough he wanted to join the others, but the comment seems weird.
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