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Old 15-06-2013, 13:37
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http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/06/...x-one-library/

If you're banned from Xbox Live with Xbox One, you can't play your games!



What a cluster**** of a console launch this is. Everyweek there seems to be some PR screw-up which was easily avoidable.

Shame really because the hardware and possibilites it brings are good.

UPDATE: Could be false alarm:
https://twitter.com/xboxsupport1/sta...75684045660160

Why oh why can't they get their facts right about their own hardware?
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Old 15-06-2013, 13:49
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IF your banned you will be unable to log in if you can't log in you can't verify your games meaning It's obvious if you are banned you won't be playing your games.
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Old 15-06-2013, 13:50
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IF your banned you will be unable to log in if you can't log in you can't verify your games meaning It's obvious if you are banned you won't be playing your games.
THat just what I was going to say.
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Old 15-06-2013, 14:16
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Yeah that does suck if it's true.
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Old 15-06-2013, 14:28
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Waiting on the DS Microsoft team to say as long as you don't do anything wrong you wont get banned.
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Old 15-06-2013, 14:48
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Waiting on the DS Microsoft team to say as long as you don't do anything wrong you wont get banned.
Which we all know to be bollox
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Old 15-06-2013, 15:00
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They've been spending way too much time in the company of E.A.
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Old 15-06-2013, 15:04
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Don't get banned, problem solved
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Old 15-06-2013, 15:33
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Don't get banned, problem solved
Problem is people have been banned by mistake, and ms say they dont make mistakes. So in that case your screwed.
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Old 15-06-2013, 15:37
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It's getting a bit embarrassing for them now.
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Old 15-06-2013, 16:02
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Don't get banned, problem solved
Get a PS4, problem solved.

I've loved the 360 in this generation but there's very little chance of me getting a XBO.
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Old 15-06-2013, 21:20
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I imagine if you are banned from Xbox live then you are banned from multiplayer and communications. Your console will still be able to check in every 24 hours.
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Old 15-06-2013, 21:35
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"Major Nelson" has stated that this is not true, in an interview with the gorgeous Chloe Dykstra for RedditGames:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lMhjM9BK7M
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Old 15-06-2013, 21:36
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I imagine if you are banned from Xbox live then you are banned from multiplayer and communications. Your console will still be able to check in every 24 hours.
Its entirely possible. Currently if you are banned you cant sign into live. The thing is, on the xbox one I'm certain its your account has to do the 24 hr check rather than your console. You games are linked to your account.
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Old 15-06-2013, 22:43
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"Major Nelson" has stated that this is not true, in an interview with the gorgeous Chloe Dykstra for RedditGames:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lMhjM9BK7M
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Old 15-06-2013, 22:56
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Indeed a definitive answer, follow link to see exact question and answer (for anybody that hasn't seen it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lMhjM9BK7M&t=0m48s
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Old 16-06-2013, 01:51
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It's worth watching that video just for Chloe Dykstra.
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Old 16-06-2013, 12:05
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"Major Nelson" has stated that this is not true, in an interview with the gorgeous Chloe Dykstra for RedditGames:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lMhjM9BK7M
I get the feeling their making these polices up on the fly, hence all the mixed messages.

Even the official Xbox support twitter account has given out incorrect info.
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Old 16-06-2013, 15:40
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"Major Nelson" has stated that this is not true, in an interview with the gorgeous Chloe Dykstra for RedditGames:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lMhjM9BK7M
Why the hell didn't they put this in conference. no mention of exactly why they are doing these draconian things, or why they are that way and for what good reason. Still is that a good enough reason to require always on?

for some reason MS reps just keep wanting to join the foot in mouth club.

The pitfalls don't sound as bad when they actually describe the possibilities of xbox one and what they intend to use all the features for. in some ways Major nelson paints it in a far better light that all the Ms reps on stage seemed to miss the points.

That said I'm still more tempted to preorder a PS4, not sure I can stretch beyond 400. It's be Crazy to by a new console and no games
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Old 16-06-2013, 16:16
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The trouble is loads of games are now all these 'shared world experiences', or what I am going to coin as 'mulgle' (mull-gul) player.

What will happen in those games. Would you be prohibited from playing those as a result.
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Old 16-06-2013, 16:24
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Why the hell didn't they put this in conference. no mention of exactly why they are doing these draconian things, or why they are that way and for what good reason. Still is that a good enough reason to require always on?

for some reason MS reps just keep wanting to join the foot in mouth club.

The pitfalls don't sound as bad when they actually describe the possibilities of xbox one and what they intend to use all the features for. in some ways Major nelson paints it in a far better light that all the Ms reps on stage seemed to miss the points.

That said I'm still more tempted to preorder a PS4, not sure I can stretch beyond 400. It's be Crazy to by a new console and no games

Yeah. Their PR has been *awful*. I feel sorry for Major Nelson, he's probably taken a lot of flak for other people's ****-ups.


Re. the online requirement:

I had wondered before why they couldn't just allow offline play via disc-authentication, but the Family Sharing explains that. Sure, if you could play offline via disc-authentication your console itself would know you still had the right to play the game... But the MS servers would *not* know because you wouldn't be "checking in", and therefore how would they know whether to allow/disallow the Family Sharing of each game?

Still, that's surely fixable by simply automatically disabling Family Sharing of any game that's not been re-verified in 24 hours?

Check-in? It's fine.

Play offline using the disc? Family Sharing of that game is disabled until you go online and re-verify.
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Old 17-06-2013, 12:38
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Problem is people have been banned by mistake, and ms say they dont make mistakes. So in that case your screwed.
Mate of mine got banned the week his ex moved out as her kid was being abusive over XboxLive so he moves out leaving my mate a leaving present of a week's ban.

I have a feeling that any good lawyer would be able to sue M$ on that - denial of service for playing on your own, on your own machine in your own house where you can swear and do anything you want without anyone being offended and asking you to be banned.

Although one can presume that the system would be intelligent enough to ban you from multiplayer but still do the 24hour 'you sure you haven;t been naughty' check.
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Old 17-06-2013, 13:06
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Mate of mine got banned the week his ex moved out as her kid was being abusive over XboxLive so he moves out leaving my mate a leaving present of a week's ban.

I have a feeling that any good lawyer would be able to sue M$ on that - denial of service for playing on your own, on your own machine in your own house where you can swear and do anything you want without anyone being offended and asking you to be banned.

Although one can presume that the system would be intelligent enough to ban you from multiplayer but still do the 24hour 'you sure you haven;t been naughty' check.
Playing devils advocate here. When your mate signed up to XBL he agreed to the T&C and one of those is that he is responsible for all activity on his account.
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Old 17-06-2013, 15:01
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I am just waiting for the story about how MS will use Kinect to punish users for minor infractions on their LIVE service. Rather than a couple of days ban from Xbox live for abusive behavior the Xbox will tell you to stand in the corner for 30minutes and kinect will monitor your punishment
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Old 17-06-2013, 15:12
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I am just waiting for the story about how MS will use Kinect to punish users for minor infractions on their LIVE service. Rather than a couple of days ban from Xbox live for abusive behavior the Xbox will tell you to stand in the corner for 30minutes and kinect will monitor your punishment
Literally LOL
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