Originally Posted by pjw1985:
“I have just rewatched Series 3 to refresh my memory. Came back to this thread and saw this post again. I agree with what you say here,Jadine did seem to disappear under the radar in Weeks 4-7 which is weird when you think how visable she was in Episodes 1 and 3. I also noticed she was NEVER on the same team as Katie, irrelevant really,just an observation.”
She was never on the same team as Katie, I noticed that as well. It is irrelevant, but what is interesting is that they are the only women (in any series) never to be on the same team as each other, as generally the teams start girls versus boys.
Originally Posted by pjw1985:
“I agree Weeks 4-7 were all about Tre,Katie,Kristina, Adam and Paul.I'd say Natalie too in weeks 4 and 5 as she starts to take on the 'bitch' role first before Katie fully begins to show her true colours. I think if Natalie had lasted longer she would have shown herself to be as big a bitch as Katie, i think the two of them were already forming a bit of a partnership before Natalie got fired. I find the horrible bullying of Adam by Natalie, then Paul and Katie horrible to watch. Natalie messed up on the zoo task with the lolly label which she lied about in the boardroom,and feuding with Adam all day she was given a second chance and the following week she is PM. She made a total mess as project manager and treated Adam like shit.When her team lost she let her mate Katie off and tried to scapegoat Adam.”
I did actually read a rather interesting interview with Natalie about this, and she was asked about her boardroom choices. She admitted that Katie should have been in the boardroom, but she said that the reason that she didn't bring her back was because she knew that Katie wouldn't be fired. Obviously you have to focus on getting through yourself, and she said that Katie had been so strong in previous tasks that bringing her in would be more dangerous for herself. I respect that actually; it's a flaw with the format, not with Natalie. I'd do that if I was on the show; if I didn't think someone would be likely to go, it's quite a dangerous game bringing them back.
Originally Posted by pjw1985:
“In the french task Paul was a shocking PM and totally obnoxious and unlikeable along with Katie. A pair of smug,pretentious snobs. The fact they lost totally down to him but he decides to try and scapegoat Adam over that ridiculous banner thing. I sat there and my blood boiled to watch the way Paul and Katie were behaving. All along it seems clear on this task they don't even care if they lose because they plan to scapegoat Adam and get rid of him. Lets ust blame him for everything! I am glad they fail here and paul's firing to me is the most satisfying EVER! Unbelieveable that he took Kristina in when she was so solid on the task”
Paul is an interesting one. I have no doubts about him getting fired - he DEFINITELY deserved to go - but in the previous five tasks, he generally came across as one of the stronger ones. He suddenly seemed to drop when he was PM. Maybe he's just one of those people who is a good team member, but not a good leader. And I don't actually object to his decision to bring Adam into the boardroom - wasn't he involved with the mess-up with the sign? I object to Kristina being back, but I don't see why he would have brought Ghazal back. I think it should have been Adam and Katie.
Originally Posted by pjw1985:
“By the next week katie is in full 'villian' mode now and the hatred for Adam is there in full force, she blames him for getting rid of her boyfriend. of course the fact he was a useless joke as PM can't possibly have anything to do with it.,Adam should have gone. Paul is wonderful and didn't put a foot wrong on the french task. Katie makes horrid comments about Adam and his 'northern chums' and Adam getting hit by a car blahblah. She lets rip in the boardroom by suggesting he is an alcoholic. She totally lays into the guy. I really felt very sorry for him, he sat there and looked like he didn't know what had hit him. I honestly never thought he was the best candidate but the way he is treated in Weeks 4-7 is disgraceful. Katie should have gone in week 7.”
Katie was very, very unfair on Adam, but I don't think that he was the best candidate by any stretch of the imagination. I think that when someone is unfairly picked upon, it's easy to see them as being better than they actually are. Adam was a nice man, but I didn't see that he was a brilliant candidate. Apart from on the art task, Katie generally outperformed him on the tasks, especially when they were PM. Compare Adam's two PM performances to Katie's.
Originally Posted by pjw1985:
“I think with types like Natalie,Paul and Katie we are dealing with people who can appear nice on the service but are really sly and two faced underneath. Jadine and Tre are very different to that, far more upfront. They can be aggressive and confrontational but i would prefer that to what you get with Katie. Jadine and Tre are very simiilar thats why they clash so much, especially inweek 1. Often when two people are so alike they won't get on. Although they seem toget on a bit better by week 8-9, i don't think they were ever going to be friends but i think there is respect there between them.”
I admire that as well. They're fair, blunt and honest.
Originally Posted by pjw1985:
“But its odd what happens to Jadine. After her loud, disruptive,confrontational beginning she was told to tone it down, she took Sugars words on board and when she was project manager again in Week 8 she was much calmer and more reasonable and WON for a second time. She had a bad week in Week 9 and gets fired which seems a shame to me. But then perhaps she wanted to go by then anyway.”
I think she wanted to go then; she had actually been sectioned under the Mental Health Act in the past. She was just feeling really down, Sugar recognised that and gave her a very nice firing. There was no shame in it.
The one thing that really bugs me about Jadine though is that she was fired for the same reason as Ifti, and she was quite unpleasant to him about it. She was like, 'Well it's not like I just give up whenever I have an off-day' sort of thing. You'd think that she of all people would have been able to understand Ifti's feelings.