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The interviewers certainly asked him about a Plan B on numerous occasions, but he refused to change.
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No, when they said Plan B, they meant a completely different plan, because Neil's was a completely flawed concept.
I think you should re-watch Series 9
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No, when they said Plan B, they meant a completely different plan, because Neil's was a completely flawed concept.
I think you should re-watch Series 9 ![]() If they'd allow Neil to do that, why couldn't Helen do that in Series 7? |
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Maybe I should.
If they'd allow Neil to do that, why couldn't Helen do that in Series 7? |
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I've been thinking, and I still stand by my four as the only ones who had a chance of winning, because Neil was at any rate given the opportunity to change his business plan, and if he had done that he might well have won. Jordan was not given that opportunity, and therefore was never going to win. So I stand by putting Neil up there and not Jordan.
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Fair enough. Where do you stand on Myles and Alex, who I think were both very competent candidates?
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Fair enough. Where do you stand on Myles and Alex, who I think were both very competent candidates?
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I agree with everything you've said about the two of them, but with regards to Myles not fitting with LS's mould as such, surely by the same token, you could say that about Rebecca?
Lord Sugar said that she wasn't tough enough for the business world, and I got the sense he didn't particularly like her, or rate her as a candidate. In Week 2, for example, I think LS just thought she was being a troublemaker witht the other girls, and overly sensitive. |
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I agree with everything you've said about the two of them, but with regards to Myles not fitting with LS's mould as such, surely by the same token, you could say that about Rebecca?
Lord Sugar said that she wasn't tough enough for the business world, and I got the sense he didn't particularly like her, or rate her as a candidate. In Week 2, for example, I think LS just thought she was being a troublemaker witht the other girls, and overly sensitive. |
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I did feel sorry for Rebecca in the Task 2 boardroom with Luisa especially being really quite agressive towards her, although on the other hand, she did kind of provoke it, saying that Uzma was rude to her, which I don't remember at all, and she refused to take ANY responsibility for location - yes it was Tim's decision, but she had to take SOME accountability, so I can see why that annoyed some of them.
But I still feel Rebecca's firing was really unfair, although I think we only saw exceptional sales skills from her, so I wouldn't call her a potential winner. |
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I did feel sorry for Rebecca in the Task 2 boardroom with Luisa especially being really quite agressive towards her, although on the other hand, she did kind of provoke it, saying that Uzma was rude to her, which I don't remember at all, and she refused to take ANY responsibility for location - yes it was Tim's decision, but she had to take SOME accountability, so I can see why that annoyed some of them.
But I still feel Rebecca's firing was really unfair, although I think we only saw exceptional sales skills from her, so I wouldn't call her a potential winner. |
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I agree with you on Rebecca - thewine tasting was a terrible idea, but had they not had the motivational speaker, its likely they would have been fined even more! Fran should definitely have gone.
One thing I've been thinking about with Series 9, is that there were very few strong managers - every single one of the losing PMs could justifiably have gone, and many of the Winning PMs didn't do a great job: Jason for Week 1, Kurt on Week 2, Luisa on Week 4, Leah on Week 6. The only people who actually proved they had good management skills were Luisa, Leah (but only in the final), Jordan, Neil and Myles was OK. |
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I agree with you on Rebecca - thewine tasting was a terrible idea, but had they not had the motivational speaker, its likely they would have been fined even more! Fran should definitely have gone.
One thing I've been thinking about with Series 9, is that there were very few strong managers - every single one of the losing PMs could justifiably have gone, and many of the Winning PMs didn't do a great job: Jason for Week 1, Kurt on Week 2, Luisa on Week 4, Leah on Week 6. The only people who actually proved they had good management skills were Luisa, Leah (but only in the final), Jordan, Neil and Myles was OK. |
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It still sounded ignorant. I'm not sure how you can argue against that.
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Yeah, Susie did have some problems getting her thoughts across correctly that series (remember the mobile phone app task?). Don't see what Karren did wrong there, as Nick does that kinda thing all the time in tbe boardroom (*shrugs*).
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Well, surely the plan must have had something in it if they were prepared to work on him with it? They didn't do that with Jordan. They wouldn't even allow Helen to do it in Series 7. They did it with Tom, but that was after Lord Sugar had already gone into partnership with him.
Unless Sugar questioned Helen off-camera and it became clear that she didn't have the first clue how she'd make a bakery business work, I think the problem was that Helen picked the two absolute worst tasks to mess up on; her method of thinking on the Week 10 task indicated someone who was used to operating on much larger scales, but lacking in knowledge of how to operate at the "grassroots" level of business, and that impression probably wasn't helped by the bad plan she initially suggested. Even with that bakery plan, I think Helen's mistakes broke Sugar's confidence in her. Of course, given what happened subsequently, it wouldn't surprise me if after the cameras stopped rolling, Sugar told Helen and Susan that they were free to come to him if ever they felt like pitching for an investment again (and told Jim not to let the door hit his arse on the way out), and while Susan eventually took him up on that offer, Helen chose to focus on progressing in her existing career. |
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...and told Jim not to let the door hit his arse on the way out...
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That's not Series 4's counterpart of the France task. The France task was a sales task, the Marrakech one was a scavenger hunt.
My issue with Series 9 is that out of sixteen candidates, the only ones that (in my opinion) had the skills and the business ideas to go all the way were Leah, Luisa, Neil and Rebecca. Four out of sixteen really isn't good enough for me. I think that at least half the candidates ought to be strong contenders, if not more. I do not watch The Apprentice to see people fail. |
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A tad unfair. Uzma judging from her site has a good business that could be expanded. Francesca had a successful business that would have had to be scaled up, but would have been easier to do probably than Leah's or Luisa's .On the other hand, Neil had a logically doomed idea. At least 3 of the other males had very dubious proposals that didn't work or were incredible and others just didn't suit him. Luisa had the strongest business sense but an arguable project, and Leah had a profitable scheme worked out in detail - that should have been more political dynamite than it proved - taking a doctor away from the NHS to make him money. There's been very few proposals that could fly in all the recent series though. Some have been minor and/or in areas he wouldn't be interested in (like Bridal wear or restaurants) and some with real businesses didn't survive to the end because he had already picked his winner (Zoe) but there's been very few adequately supported, viable projects reaching the final show. that's a basic issue with the new format. Tom's win was incredible given his lack of performance, and the rejection of what he actually offered , Ricky's offering was dull and against weak competition, and Leah offered the most worked up project in an area he shouldn't have touched.
And actually, Tom was a very strong task performer. He was unfortunate enough to be on the losing team a lot, but as an individual performer he was definitely one of the strongest that series. |
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It's very close between series 7 and series 9 for me.
"Hello sir, do you want something else to carry?" That just sticks with me !
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It's very close between series 7 and series 9 for me.
"Hello sir, do you want something else to carry?" That just sticks with me ! ![]()
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Have you seen every series?
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To be honest, no :P I'm nearing the end of series 5 and I started watching during series 9, so I'm working back.
In the meantime, have you seen Young Apprentice? It's really good for an Apprentice fix - I personally enjoy it more than the adult version. |
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