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Old 15-06-2013, 22:40
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Have just checked out both Amazon and Game, and whilst both go into details regarding live being a requirement, should they not be mentioning that an Internet connection, is also essential, ie a requirement, to play games on the xboxone? It is as u need to log in once a day or lose access to the games.

Surely they have an obligation in this regard in the same manner as on say Singstar games without a microphone, state clearly, that one is required to play this game?

I know it's mad but not everyone, ie some parents etc, will be fully aware of the requirements. Or am I missing something?
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Old 15-06-2013, 23:10
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No I agree.
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Old 15-06-2013, 23:13
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Just had a look at Game and http://www.game.co.uk/en/xbox-one-co...XboxOneUpdated (go to the product details tab) Sure enough nowhere does it say online or internet is mandatory. You would think they would have the decency at least.
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Old 16-06-2013, 00:09
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Well if they ain't going to tell everyone the details then they shouldn't have any problem with people returning games because that is exactly the thing that is going to happen.
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Old 16-06-2013, 01:36
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I agree that mentioning the 24 hour online check in small print is necessary. I probably wouldn't agree they need to go into detail about other policies like used games.
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Old 16-06-2013, 02:59
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I agree that mentioning the 24 hour online check in small print is necessary. I probably wouldn't agree they need to go into detail about other policies like used games.
No, it needs to be in more than small print. If you don't have online then don't buy an X1 , it's not a dirty secret, just the facts. Having said that I presume most websites believe the majority have internet since they are...you know.. pre-ordering from the internet.
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Old 16-06-2013, 04:11
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No, it needs to be in more than small print. If you don't have online then don't buy an X1 , it's not a dirty secret, just the facts. Having said that I presume most websites believe the majority have internet since they are...you know.. pre-ordering from the internet.
It could be they are pre ordering fro mtheir phone

Retailers dont have to say anything, its not their dury to report unfortunately, their defence will be people know what they are buying
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Old 16-06-2013, 04:51
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It could be they are pre ordering fro mtheir phone

Retailers dont have to say anything, its not their dury to report unfortunately, their defence will be people know what they are buying
An online enabled phone is all you need.
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Old 16-06-2013, 05:54
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surely it's the games themselves that must carry the disclaimer?
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Old 16-06-2013, 06:55
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It should be down to MS to put it on the packaging of their games/console. They should also put it on any promotional material.
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Old 16-06-2013, 09:32
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An online enabled phone is all you need.
Oh so every tarrif provides tethering does it? No it dosent.
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Old 16-06-2013, 09:50
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surely it's the games themselves that must carry the disclaimer?
It's the console itself that requires the daily connection. The games can simply assume if you own an XB1 then it'll have a connection, otherwise you wouldn't be buying the games!
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Old 16-06-2013, 09:55
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Looks like a future watchdog programme in the making. Can see it now
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Old 16-06-2013, 10:05
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It does say at the bottom of the screen in the smallest font they could find - internet connection required. That's on their pre-order site on the Xbox 360. Also mentions game restrictions, just what people want to read when thinking about spending over 400!!!

All this is going to come back and bite MS on the arse, I always thought they were a smart, intelligent, forward thinking company, but in actual fact they're none of those things.
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Old 16-06-2013, 10:20
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Doesn't matter because you get a free PC with every XBone now

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/...ll-for-launch/
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Old 16-06-2013, 11:06
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Doesn't matter because you get a free PC with every XBone now

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/...ll-for-launch/
A person can only read so much of this bad press before they start believing it, I'm starting to think the PS4 is now the only choice for next gen.

Happy my pre-order is in, PS4 of course.
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Old 16-06-2013, 11:14
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Yep, THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM!

People will purchase the XBone without knowing the restrictions in place.

Many will be shocked!

The word needs spreading.
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Old 16-06-2013, 11:16
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Doesn't matter because you get a free PC with every XBone now

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/...ll-for-launch/
The Xbone, the comedy gift that just keeps giving.


An online enabled phone is all you need.
That could get very expensive if your package doesn't include tethering.
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Old 16-06-2013, 12:54
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A person can only read so much of this bad press before they start believing it, I'm starting to think the PS4 is now the only choice for next gen.

Happy my pre-order is in, PS4 of course.
It needs some perspective on the matter, especially when it's coming from a Playstation Lifestyle website and resposted by a fanboy on a forum.

Jonathon Blow is an absolute cretin of the highest order, he has a real axe to grind and that is obvious. Of COURSE the Witness was running on PS4 hardware, it looked utterly SHIT. Look what he said about graphic capabilities, how some games on PS4 would run at 60fps and only 30fps on X1, then look at E3 and see who's really pushing 1080p60.

There was ONE single demo booth crashed to a Windows7 desktop of which a picture was twitted out by former Mean Machines editor Julian Rignal (now IGN exec). This is nothing new, a lot of stage demo's run on PC hardware and all of the conference footage was X1. None of this should really be too much of a surprise. Both Dead Rising 3 and TitanFall developers confirmed it was direct X1 footage in the interviews I watched alone.

Based on past E3's MS have never embellished or lied about the power of their machine, Sony on the other hand..

I'll tell you one thing right now, MS do not hve a history of lying about the power of their machine, they have never emvbelishing the graphics to be something they are n
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Old 16-06-2013, 13:04
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Based on past E3's MS have never embellished or lied about the power of their machine, Sony on the other hand..

I'll tell you one thing right now, MS do not hve a history of lying about the power of their machine, they have never emvbelishing the graphics to be something they are not
lolwut?

When have Sony lied about the power of their machine?

I remember there being a mighty fuss when they showed the KZ2 teaser and said "The PS3 could run this" and everybody poo-pooed them for misleading the consumer as it wasn't running on PS3 hardware and the PS3 could never do something like that. Fast-forward three years, Killzone 2 is released, and indeed looks even better than the tech demo
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Old 16-06-2013, 13:10
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lolwut?

When have Sony lied about the power of their machine?

I remember there being a mighty fuss when they showed the KZ2 teaser and said "The PS3 could run this" and everybody poo-pooed them for misleading the consumer as it wasn't running on PS3 hardware and the PS3 could never do something like that. Fast-forward three years, Killzone 2 is released, and indeed looks even better than the tech demo
Oh so you must of missed this

You remember Sony running all those tech demo's with pre-rendered CGi and overlayed HUD's on games that never came out? How the tech blew the 360 out of the water? Even members of the press were hoodwinked to the extent that articles like this were written.
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Old 16-06-2013, 13:32
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Oh so you must of missed this

You remember Sony running all those tech demo's with pre-rendered CGi and overlayed HUD's on games that never came out? How the tech blew the 360 out of the water? Even members of the press were hoodwinked to the extent that articles like this were written.
LOL you're linking me to a video made by a 360 fanboy? That is glorious!

Yes, there is a lot of hyperbole in that Eurogamer article, but there's truth there too. It all comes down to the fact that the PS3 had a tremendously difficult architecture for devs to get their heads around, to the extent that the only devs who ever truly cracked it were exclusive to PS3.

It must surely speak volumes that 360 exclusives seem to have dried up while Sony continue to release ones for the PS3 that push the system even further. Naughty Dog explained why Uncharted 2 was impossible on the 360. See as well Media Molecule saying the same about LBP. Oh, and Guerilla Games talking about Killzone 2 as well. The best looking games of this gen are all PS3 titles, the most technically sophisticated games of this gen are PS3 titles, and there are two main reasons for that - Cell and Blu-Ray.

To claim at the end of this generation that the PS3 wasn't more powerful than the 360 is simply nonsense. To the extent that was first believed? No, because the Cell proved too difficult to program for and needed a lot of work to get the most out of. But for those who managed it? Wow. God Of War III still looks like a next-gen title at times.
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Old 16-06-2013, 13:48
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LOL you're linking me to a video made by a 360 fanboy? That is glorious!

Yes, there is a lot of hyperbole in that Eurogamer article, but there's truth there too. It all comes down to the fact that the PS3 had a tremendously difficult architecture for devs to get their heads around, to the extent that the only devs who ever truly cracked it were exclusive to PS3.

It must surely speak volumes that 360 exclusives seem to have dried up while Sony continue to release ones for the PS3 that push the system even further. Naughty Dog explained why Uncharted 2 was impossible on the 360. See as well Media Molecule saying the same about LBP. Oh, and Guerilla Games talking about Killzone 2 as well. The best looking games of this gen are all PS3 titles, the most technically sophisticated games of this gen are PS3 titles, and there are two main reasons for that - Cell and Blu-Ray.

To claim at the end of this generation that the PS3 wasn't more powerful than the 360 is simply nonsense. To the extent that was first believed? No, because the Cell proved too difficult to program for and needed a lot of work to get the most out of. But for those who managed it? Wow. God Of War III still looks like a next-gen title at times.
That video only presents the facts, nothing is doctored from what Sony said.

I disagree that Killzone 2 looked as good as the original demo footage, and while I will say the final product was still impressive, how long after launch did that take to arrive? Why was it even shown at PS3 E3 reveal like that was representative the graphics we would see day 1. The lies about the most powerful GPU in the world... The (photo-realistic) Getaway footage, Eight Days etc. Open your eyes.

Sony scaled back the hardware at the last moment making all of what they originally showed impossible, Kojima confirmed that when he said during an interview that he working in development with much more powerful tech which was not possibly with the final design cuts had to be made which he wasn't happy with. From what I've seen at E3 I wouldn't be surprised if Sony done that again.

I personally regard Halo 4, Forza 4 and Alan Wake as some of the most visually impressive games I've played this gen and I cannot say too many PS3 games, exclusive or otherwise look anywhere near as nice.
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Old 16-06-2013, 14:05
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Don't start this again we all know where It ends, even the die hardest Xbox fans will admit that Uncharted series is unmatched on console this generation..

Cutting down PS4 ? You know yourself such thing would mean a delay, heck that is why PS3 delayed and delayed for the same reason. If Sony planed to have the console out by November there is no way they changing any SPECS on the machine.

There was so many factors in cutting down the PS3 from what was original was, and you acting as it was purposely done by Sony.

What ever mistakes they did they went on to outsell a console that was released year ahead with price tag of $599 and 425. Even with the hard develop platform, no one can deny that is achievement.

However It is Microsoft who demoed from what we know 2 games on Nvidia hardware Dead rising being one of them. It's MS who's not finalised the SPECS of the GPU and reportedly having to downclock it 0.9 Teraflops.
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Old 16-06-2013, 14:08
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That video only presents the facts, nothing is doctored from what Sony said.

I disagree that Killzone 2 looked as good as the original demo footage, and while I will say the final product was still impressive, how long after launch did that take to arrive? Why was it even shown at PS3 E3 reveal like that was representative the graphics we would see day 1. The lies about the most powerful GPU in the world... The (photo-realistic) Getaway footage, Eight Days etc. Open your eyes.

Sony scaled back the hardware at the last moment making all of what they originally showed impossible, Kojima confirmed that when he said during an interview that he working in development with much more powerful tech which was not possibly with the final design cuts had to be made which he wasn't happy with. From what I've seen at E3 I wouldn't be surprised if Sony done that again.

I personally regard Halo 4, Forza 4 and Alan Wake as some of the most visually impressive games I've played this gen and I cannot say too many PS3 games, exclusive or otherwise look anywhere near as nice.

2Dshmuplover, do you work for Microsoft?

Anyway what about your comment "An online enabled phone is all you need." do you think everyone has tethering? or should they also change their phone plan?
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