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If we want to save this series, we all have to evict Dexter!
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jeanoj
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“True. How ridiculous, eh, BB listening to the voice of the viewers instead of those just making most noise. I am not a fan of Dexter but have got so irritated by the bossy, rude tone of people on the forum ORDERING me to save the two women that I hope he stays.”

You tell um WD I want Sallie to go
dtorre
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by J Swift:
“Well the thing is Gina's involved in about 3x as much drama (which is like the life-blood of television) as Dexter - and that's why she makes it into the edit

If there weren't a Gina now, you'd have had an extra half hour of footage of the twins eating porridge or Jemima chatting nonsense ... which is how the show goes when you lose 'characters'”

But I can't stand watching Gina, when she is on the highlights arguing with Sallie or Jemima I have to hit the mute button because I don't want to listen to her. When she is gone someone else will get that airtime. Not to mention playing the race card was LOW
BabelBrook
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by Cloudy2:
“No, they can't. But something needs to be done. I can do without watching Daley, Callum, Wolfy and The Twins from week 4 till the end.”

In fairness have any of them been given any real air time apart from Wolfie?
Cloudy2
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“In fairness have any of them been given any real air time apart from Wolfie?”

It's true they have not had airtime but is that because they are not doing anything of interest.
Veri
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by J Swift:
“No, it's about statistics - the votes here are similarly bad, but it's only 25% or so who make dumb votes

It's just the rest of the votes are too spread out

Voting for Gina is an easy (AKA dumb) vote”

No matter what gloss you try to put on "dumb", you're insulting people who disagree with you.

Statistically, if viewers in general agreed with this forum and the BOTS audience, then they'd give the HMs essentially the same proportion of votes as this forum and the BOTS audience, and would therefore put up the HMs this forum and the BOTS audience wanted up, rather than the different HMs the viewers actually picked.
Veri
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by J Swift:
“Well the thing is Gina's involved in about 3x as much drama (which is like the life-blood of television) as Dexter - and that's why she makes it into the edit”

She wasn't involved in much drama in last night's show (there was only a brief bit at the start), yet she was still tediously in the edit a lot of the time.

In any case, I find the drama she creates irritating rather than entertaining.

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“If there weren't a Gina now, you'd have had an extra half hour of footage of the twins eating porridge or Jemima chatting nonsense ... which is how the show goes when you lose 'characters'”

No, we wouldn't. Do you really think that's what the producers would pick?

In any case, irritating is worse than boring.
BabelBrook
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by Cloudy2:
“It's true they have not had airtime but is that because they are not doing anything of interest.”

That may or may not be true. At the moment there only seem to be four or five HMs in there for most of the time (as is always the case) to the detriment of the rest of the HMs. Perhaps we would have had different nominations if the HLs had been a little more even handed.
Fanntastik
18-06-2013
Get Dexter out! He has added nothing to the series.
trollface
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by Cloudy2:
“I tend to disagree.

BB12 did Tom and Louise deserve a place in the final. Anton, Heaven and Maisie would have been better.
BB11 did JJ, Andrew and Mario (as much as I liked him) deserve a place in the final, we could have had Sam, John James.
BB10 Rodrigo and not Marcus
BB9 Sara who's only story was Darnell.
BB8 Liam, Jonty, Carole and was it Tara?
BB7 Jeanie.
BB4 Stephanie, Scott.”

I'm failing to see your point.
trollface
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Statistically, if viewers in general agreed with this forum and the BOTS audience, then they'd give the HMs essentially the same proportion of votes as this forum and the BOTS audience, and would therefore put up the HMs this forum and the BOTS audience wanted up, rather than the different HMs the viewers actually picked.”

The viewers didn't pick differently to this forum. If you look at the "Who is your least favourite housemate" thread, then the three people with the most votes are Sallie, Gina and Dexter, in that order.
JanisElizabeth
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by sarza:
“Dexter out... All 3 should have been saved, viewers never learn do they. In a few weeks when the entertainers have gone, people be moaning its boring”

Viewers never learn what exactly? To have exactly the same opinion as you? This kind of thing makes me laugh. The arrogance of someone to say that anyone who doesn't agree with them is wrong and somehow lacking in perception!!
qwertyell
18-06-2013
I like Dexter.

We can't vote to save the series anyway - it's vote to evict now.
Cloudy2
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by trollface:
“I'm failing to see your point.”

The point was you said once big characters go others take their place. I was suggesting that that is not always the case. The h/m I listed didn't improve as h/m once the bigger characters of their series left. BB11 in particular was left as a damp squib because the bigger characters left or were evicted early in. Countless new h/m that year as well as the surviving original h/m didn't become big characters once the original big characters left.
Scarlett Berry
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Viewers never learn what exactly? To have exactly the same opinion as you? This kind of thing makes me laugh. The arrogance of someone to say that anyone who doesn't agree with them is wrong and somehow lacking in perception!!”

Bravo
Thetrevster
18-06-2013
The so called boring HM's didn't get noms so they did a good job ensuring their survival to week 2.
Gusto Brunt
18-06-2013
Shame it's Dexter up. It should have been that blonde girl who's a dental nurse. She's so boring I don't even remember her name.
qwertyell
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt:
“Shame it's Dexter up. It should have been that blonde girl who's a dental nurse. She's so boring I don't even remember her name.”

Jade.
netcurtains
18-06-2013
I'd rather Gina or Sallie went. They remind me of the daft bints who frequent pub loos on a boozy night arguing like fishwives, droning on and on and making little sense, just torrents of random words spewing forth.
Scarlett Berry
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by netcurtains:
“I'd rather Gina or Sallie went. They remind me of the daft bints who frequent pub loos on a boozy night arguing like fishwives, droning on and on and making little sense, just torrents of random words spewing forth.”

You're not wrong. They make Kerry Katona seem positively posh and ladylike.
Jennyloo
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by trollface:
“Every single year people complain that the show will die when the "big characters" are voted out. And every single year, when they are, other people step into the limelight and are just as interesting, if not more so.

Sallie may be loud and aggressive, but she's also boring. I don't want this entire series to be her loudly proclaiming her ignorance to all and sundry. The house would be much more interesting without her.”

Good post - she gets on my wick. She is not interesting in the least and behaved like a spoilt brat when nominated.
Jennyloo
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by Thetrevster:
“The so called boring HM's didn't get noms so they did a good job ensuring their survival to week 2.”

When will the HMts start nominating the boring ones, never mind the public . I would pick Callum and Daley for example.
Scarlett Berry
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by Jennyloo:
“Good post - she gets on my wick. She is not interesting in the least and behaved like a spoilt brat when nominated.”

Personally I would have said common as muck fishwife
trollface
18-06-2013
Originally Posted by Cloudy2:
“The point was you said once big characters go others take their place.”

And then you listed a bunch of random people, some of whom were great and some of whom were tedious. For example, you listed Sara from BB9 as being pointless, whereas she was my second favourite that year.

Not everybody finds the same things or people interesting. Sallie is tedious. Gina less so, but still tedious. Dexter is more interesting than either.
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