really ? she doesn't to me .

Of course she looks black! Her nose is black, her lips are black, she's got weave etc. How does she not look black? I've read that she's half black but she 100% looks fully black. It's just her skin lightening and pale make up that confuses some people.

Read my post below yours.

Not all black people have really dark skin - do people not know this?

Why should people have to say something positive?
What's wrong with mentioning somebody's colour of skin but being completely benign about it?

I don't know , I'm just shocked that you are no longer allowed preference tall short fat thin black white rich poor bald hairy man woman?

Well I was looking at her skin her hair is blonde

she looks mixed race to me , but you were saying she's fully black .

It was a fair question I thought. If Jemima is happy to state she doesn't want to date black men she should be happy to give her reasons why, if asked. ie....

Person A - I'd eat an apple but I wouldn't eat an orange
Person B - What's wrong with oranges ?

You are allowed preferences. It is not polite to assume that you can dictate other peoples' preferences, and becomes rather toxic when this involves telling someone from a historically downtrodden group that they may have no preference for anyone from the historically high-status group.

and what's the answer ?

When did that happen wonkey?

I don't know but my hunch is that it was a far more innocent remark than Gina calling Jemima a 'racist bitch'.

Its offensive!!

Jemima was trying to backtrack, when she mentioned Daley! she knew she had gone too far.

She actually said NOT BLACK MEN! in a nasty way.

It was deliberate to get at Gina, as she already told all the HMs in the kitchen she was gona get Gina.

When did I say she HAD to say something positive? I was merely trying to help you understand what I meant by negative Absolutely no need to jump down my throat because you want an argument.

Please don't tell me you think her hair is real?!

Why do you think she was speaking of race when she was speaking specifically about colour?

What she was describing to Gina appeared to be entirely about colour and not about race.
She said that her type is Mediterranean men, or that shade, like Dan is, and then tried to describe a skin colour as there wasn't a handy colour chart at hand.
She spoke of lighter and darker shades.

She said that she found Daley attractive, but he is attached.
Daley is not dark black, but is mixed race. But surely if she was racist wouldn't she have found Daley unattractive too?
Daley would be described as black in regards to somebody speaking about him in racial terms, but it appeared to me that Jemima was talking purely about skin colour, not race.

Just before you say that Daley isn't black, he's mixed race, consider that you've just described Gina as being black. When in fact she is just like Daley and is mixed race too. Gina is half Jamaican and half Cuban.

No I didn't. I said she looked fully black. She doesn't look mixed AT ALL.

The answer is irrelevant. The point is that it was a perfectly legitimate question to ask.

its a legitimate question but the answer is irrelevant ??

I think she does .

Yes .

Hi Wonkey Donkey. Nice to see you talking sense like always!

I see a brown skinned slim girl, very nice legs, nice body not such an attractive face blond haired bit tarty snobby brat

I didn't even think about her "race" she's English as far as I know or thought

You are wrong. If Jemima was talking ENTIRELY about colour then why did she mention she'd go for mixed race men like Daley? "Mixed race" is referring to race, not colour. Mixed race men as regarded differently to fully black men as they have whiter features hence why Jemima wouldn't find them unattractive. Daley would be described as black solely by people who stick by the one drop rule, to others he is regarded as mixed race.

Don't tell me what to do! I have an opinion and I will voice it whether you agree with it or not! And I have not derailed the topic at all!