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Blaming Louisa is a complete joke!
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george.millman
25-06-2013
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Luisa is rude at every opportunity she gets. She undermined Jason from the beginning of the task and before they even got to the website design. She was horrrible to the woman who did the cupcake classes. All she did on last week's task was barrack Jason. The people working at the IT company were totally bemused by her loud complaining. In the company training task, she was moaning, smirking and undermining Francesca to Jordan was she giving a talk. I'd like to see her try and undermine a candidate with a more forceful personality than Jason, if she dare. She's very unprofessional.”

Actually in this article, they seem quite impressed by Luisa:

http://globalpersonals.co.uk/blog/ou...he-apprentice/
ewoodie
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“Actually in this article, they seem quite impressed by Luisa:

http://globalpersonals.co.uk/blog/ou...he-apprentice/”

Well I'm not and neither was Nick who summed her up very accurately. She is rude, unprofessional and good entertainment value. Maybe that's what Sugar likes.
LeoJoe6
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“Actually in this article, they seem quite impressed by Luisa:

http://globalpersonals.co.uk/blog/ou...he-apprentice/”

That article wasn't written at the place they designed the logo though, that was at the web design where Jason decided to let Luisa take the lead.
Joel_B
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“Actually in this article, they seem quite impressed by Luisa:

http://globalpersonals.co.uk/blog/ou...he-apprentice/”

If any called me unprofesional, "bickering" and "hair-flicking" I would be mortified...!

"Luisa is a very strong character, and can be very bolshy and bossy, but I could tell she was much more experienced in digital projects, and I thought everything she suggested was bang on. I could see her going on to win this. I’m not putting money on it though!"

Translation : Client was a pain to work with but I don't want to burn any bridges if her so-called cup cake business needs some re-design.
george.millman
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by LeoJoe6:
“That article wasn't written at the place they designed the logo though, that was at the web design where Jason decided to let Luisa take the lead.”

He didn't let her take the lead at all! He spent a load of time faffing around, and didn't listen to her when she said it was time to go.
CaroUK
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“He didn't let her take the lead at all! He spent a load of time faffing around, and didn't listen to her when she said it was time to go.”

That article was written by the web page designer - the one they were very late getting to.

According to the show, when they got to her office, Jason handed over responsibility to Luisa...... The facing around/ make a decision/ it's time to go nonsense happened at the graphic design studio.
babspanky
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by lammtarra:
“Luisa said she hated the name (and presumably concept) Friendship and Flowers, just after Neil and Francesca reported the market research.

Then when she and Jason were leaving the agency, she did indeed say, "I hate the over 50s."

Can we give Luisa the benefit of the doubt and take it that she was talking about the concept and not the people? And what is the point of You're Fired if they do not replay this at five minute intervals?”

If we don't give her the benefit of the doubt, she's short sighted. At some point in the not too distant future she will be over 50. And gasp! if she's lucky even older. Time flies as she will find out.

Old or dead. That's the choice. We've all got it coming so I'll thank younger people not to act so smug.
ewoodie
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“He didn't let her take the lead at all! He spent a load of time faffing around, and didn't listen to her when she said it was time to go.”


She didn't give him any choice. Instead of working with him, she worked against him. Instead of offering any input she belittled and humiliated him.
ewoodie
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by babspanky:
“If we don't give her the benefit of the doubt, she's short sighted. At some point in the not too distant future she will be over 50. And gasp! if she's lucky even older. Time flies as she will find out.

Old or dead. That's the choice. We've all got it coming so I'll thank younger people not to act so smug.”

Indeed and will she be able to say it's because of the way I look then! The conceit!
george.millman
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“She didn't give him any choice. Instead of working with him, she worked against him. Instead of offering any input she belittled and humiliated him.”

In order to humiliate someone, they have to have done something humiliating in the first place.
grizzlyvamp
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“In order to humiliate someone, they have to have done something humiliating in the first place.”

You think being shouted at in public for what was really a very petty thing in the first place isn't humiliating? Sorry but I would find it pretty humiliating if someone acted like that towards me!
george.millman
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by grizzlyvamp:
“ You think being shouted at in public for what was really a very petty thing in the first place isn't humiliating? Sorry but I would find it pretty humiliating if someone acted like that towards me!”

So what about someone like Rebecca then? She was attacked and ganged up on by the team quite a few times, but I wouldn't say she was humiliated. I think to be humiliated, you have to have something to be humiliated about.
barcajaden
26-06-2013
i wonder if she gets to the final?
Paul Wilson
26-06-2013
Well I'm no Louisa fan, but it's obvious to me tonight, Karen's trying to set her up for a fall.
barcajaden
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by Paul Wilson:
“Well I'm no Louisa fan, but it's obvious to me tonight, Karen's trying to set her up for a fall.”

not really
thenetworkbabe
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“She didn't give him any choice. Instead of working with him, she worked against him. Instead of offering any input she belittled and humiliated him.”

He was hopeless. Thats we saw and what everyone in the house thought about him from what we saw every other week.
ewoodie
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“In order to humiliate someone, they have to have done something humiliating in the first place.”

Wrong. Eg.

Humiliation can be a form of bullying or torture.

How could you humiliate me by questioning my judgment in front of everyone like that?

Victims can feel undervalued, de-motivated and humiliated in front of work colleagues.


People would quite often be publicly humiliated or even tortured.


Sleep deprivation, withholding food, humiliating prisoners - those things were already routine at ...

Person/people in examples haven't necessarily done anything humiliating. Yet it is still possible to humiliate them.
ewoodie
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“He was hopeless. Thats we saw and what everyone in the house thought about him from what we saw every other week.”

He was - mostly - but that's no excuse for Luisa's attitude and treatment of him.
thenetworkbabe
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by barcajaden:
“i wonder if she gets to the final?”

Almost inevitable. She's been doing what Karen gave her credit for throughout. Neil is the even more obvious front runner - but poses similar problems. Leah and Jordan didn't do much, but probably put their campaigns back on track. He's more or less said that he doesn't trust Myles's judgement, and not tasting the food was so fundamental an error that he may write Francesca out for. The question is if Neil is far too far ahead and far too obvious a winner to win?
ewoodie
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by Paul Wilson:
“Well I'm no Louisa fan, but it's obvious to me tonight, Karen's trying to set her up for a fall.”

Maybe. She wasn't as bad tonight - apart from wheedling her way out of the cooking and then raising the topic so that the finger of failure would be pointed at Francesca.
The branding of the food was ok. They did a good job of that.
Joel_B
26-06-2013
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Maybe. She wasn't as bad tonight - apart from wheedling her way out of the cooking and then raising the topic so that the finger of failure would be pointed at Francesca.
The branding of the food was ok. They did a good job of that.”

I'm guessing Daddy bought Lousia a cup-cake business that she then re-branded. You run a glorified bakery but don't know anything about cooking. Yeah, right.
hownwbrowncow
26-06-2013
I've actually taken a liking yo Luisa. She's proved herself as a strong candidate and I think she's in with a shot of winning
ronandreg
26-06-2013
I have been backing Luisa, but frankly her behaviour was far more disreputable tonight than when Nick had a go at her last week. She wimped out of being team leader, but then decided she had the right to chose who the team leader should be. She flat-out lied about her cooking ability, denied the team the benefit of delivering a tasty product, dumped Francesca in the drudge role, and then undermined what she had delivered at every opportunity whilst getting all huggy-huggy with Neil on the fun part of the task.

I think she is a strong candidate, but she was high on taking credit and low on taking responsibility this week, fawning over Neil and being unpleasant to Francesca in the bargain. The ability to navigate the fluctuating favouritism within the teams doesn't always translate well to the interview stage when she will have to stand on her own merits.
James_B1
27-06-2013
I totally agree with @ronandreg. Found Luisa to be extremely mendacious and manipulative in the way she operated this evening.

Both her and Neil had definitely planned to throw Francesca under a bus if their team lost. Not sure whether that's necessarily a bad thing though as Francesca is the weakest candidate by a mile still left in the competition.

However, it doesn't say a lot about Luisa or Neil. They're not particularly pleasant individuals.
General Lunacy
27-06-2013
Still the strongest contestant in the show, for me.

In the end it will come down to whether Sugar is prepared to work with her though. He does see something in her.
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