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Old 19-06-2013, 23:33
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I thought they disliked each other as well but maybe that's two females that get on with Luisa now
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Old 19-06-2013, 23:41
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They get on well. Luisa said the famous "You're just a doctor" back in the first episode, but I think after that incident they got on well. When Leah came back from the boardroom in the Dubai task, the first person she hugged was her. I don't think she'd hug her first if she disliked her.

(On the other hand, I don't think she and Francesca like each other... obviously they have to work together as they are in the same team, and it would be foolish to bring your personal dislikes into the task and affect the group negatively because of that... but they clashed a lot when Fran was PM)
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Old 20-06-2013, 00:21
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(On the other hand, I don't think she and Francesca like each other... obviously they have to work together as they are in the same team, and it would be foolish to bring your personal dislikes into the task and affect the group negatively because of that... but they clashed a lot when Fran was PM)
I don't blame Luisa. Fran was being cringing and embarrassing herself in front of the delegates. Luisa was the only one on that team doing anything!
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Old 20-06-2013, 10:45
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I thought they disliked each other as well but maybe that's two females that get on with Luisa now
Luisa I believe has confirmed on twitter her and Leah are are the closest
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Old 20-06-2013, 12:23
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Disappointed in Leah if that's the case.
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Old 20-06-2013, 13:24
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Disappointed in Leah if that's the case.
I think Dr. Leah is probably in a better position to judge Luisa as a person than we are
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Old 20-06-2013, 13:24
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I think Dr. Leah is probably in a better position to judge Luisa as a person than we are
Agreed.
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Old 20-06-2013, 13:28
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Maybe, but I don't think anyone who is fundamentally decent would present themselves on television the way she has or have bullied Rebecca to tears. It is obvious that Nick and Karen cannot stand her and they would see quite a lot of her and not be depending on edited highlights.
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Old 20-06-2013, 13:36
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I think Dr. Leah is probably in a better position to judge Luisa as a person than we are
Did you have to go and spoil things by bringing logic and reason into this?

I'm slightly wary of saying too much about Luisa, as some posters may come out with stuff saying I'm acting like her 'boyfriend' or that I'm 'thinking with my sausage' (are people that praise Myles thinking with their foo foo? ) but the level of dislike for her on here is entirely disproportionate to what she's actually done.

Just so we're clear-

Do I like her? Not really.
Do I think she's a right royal pain and manipulative?- Oh yes.
Is she attractive?- more so than many on here would have you believe.
Would I go out with her?- not a snowflake's chance in hell.
Do I think she's Apprentice TV Gold? Hell yes.
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Old 20-06-2013, 13:53
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If the editors want you to see a tiff, you will see a tiff, even if its perceived with careful editing.
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Old 20-06-2013, 13:55
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If the editors want you to see a tiff, you will see a tiff, even if its perceived with careful editing.
Completely agree.

My best mate works in TV at director level (he also produces) certain popular shows. The amount of stuff that TV folk can get away with is astounding.
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Old 20-06-2013, 14:01
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Of course they edit. But it is obvious that Nick and Karen find her deeply dislikable - to the point where Nick, who is normally quite restrained, let rip at her last night. She was also absolutely horrible to Rebecca in the boardroom and reduced her to tears. At the time Leah stood up for Rebecca so I'm surprised that they're such good friends now. I admired Leah at the time for standing up to Luisa when Uzmeh and Natalie just slavishly went along with her.
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Old 20-06-2013, 18:09
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I was quite surprised when Lou went back to the house and sat next to Leah who was bring very friendly with her.

I got the impression they did not get on. I was surprised she didn't roll her eyes or pout her lips when Lou sat next to her as that's what she mainly does on the show.
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Old 21-06-2013, 15:16
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This is all very good, but which one is better in bed? I'd like to find out!
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Old 21-06-2013, 16:03
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Of course they edit. But it is obvious that Nick and Karen find her deeply dislikable - to the point where Nick, who is normally quite restrained, let rip at her last night. She was also absolutely horrible to Rebecca in the boardroom and reduced her to tears. At the time Leah stood up for Rebecca so I'm surprised that they're such good friends now. I admired Leah at the time for standing up to Luisa when Uzmeh and Natalie just slavishly went along with her.
Its not obvious at all. Nick never likes loud females. . He's also the one who habitually backs males, oxbridge/public school males and has argued against even quieter female winners. Karen hasn't obviously concluded anything - we don't know if her aim is to find out as she is neutral, or to finish Luisa off, or to give Lord Sugar what she thinks of as a more accurate view .

As with Big Brother, the viewing audience often gets things totally wrong - because they miss out who really gets on with whom because they don't like them themselves, and pick up on the producer's storyline of the minute. They also note when somone they don't like says something , but ignore the fact that all the people they like are saying the same thing too. It seems that the other people left in the house mostly like Luisa. Almost everyone, including Alex, Neil, Leah and Francesca, who are probably the other front runners, shared her view of Jason, and has said so in similar terms.They have all reacted the same way to his dithering - Neil last week, and Alex every week on the opening credits. They have all gone on similar offensives in the boardroom. They all seem to think Luisa is one of the more competent ones, they work well as a team when she is PM, and they have her marked down as someone not to be up against the boardroom if you can help it.

I think, as usual, the better candidates have a pretty good idea of who is strong competition and who is not. What matters is who has a proposal that doesn't fall apart in the last stages, and whether Lord sugar finds any reason to prefer one of the people the other's wouldn't want to be led by.
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Old 22-06-2013, 12:51
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Its not obvious at all. Nick never likes loud females. . He's also the one who habitually backs males, oxbridge/public school males and has argued against even quieter female winners.
He liked Susan Ma a lot, though.
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Old 22-06-2013, 13:30
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He liked Susan Ma a lot, though.
Not exactly known for being a loud person, though - he liked her because of that, I believe.
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Old 22-06-2013, 13:40
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Not exactly known for being a loud person, though - he liked her because of that, I believe.
She is The Mouse That Roared.
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Old 22-06-2013, 16:03
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She is The Mouse That Roared.
Exactly - I think it's because she stopped being timid and stood up for herself that he liked her. Although I think he just dislikes women who shout loudest without actually saying anything at all, just like Louisa does.
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Old 22-06-2013, 16:11
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Exactly - I think it's because she stopped being timid and stood up for herself that he liked her. Although I think he just dislikes women who shout loudest without actually saying anything at all, just like Louisa does.
He liked her before that... he mentioned that he thought that she talked great sense, but couldn't express it in a way that people would listen to. Susan got a bit more vocal after that.
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Old 22-06-2013, 16:16
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He liked her before that... he mentioned that he thought that she talked great sense, but couldn't express it in a way that people would listen to. Susan got a bit more vocal after that.
Lord Sugar felt the same, that's why she's working in partnership with him on her beauty project.

I wonder how many of the losers from this year will get a second chance outside the process - not many, I'd guess *chuckle*
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Old 23-06-2013, 01:36
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He liked her before that... he mentioned that he thought that she talked great sense, but couldn't express it in a way that people would listen to. Susan got a bit more vocal after that.
Nick seemed to first like Susan which she was PM in the "search down and buy list of items" task - I think he called her a "pocket rocket".
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Old 23-06-2013, 12:36
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I think Luisa and Leah are quite similar in that they're whiny back seat drivers who spent so much time second-guessing their PM's (Jason and Zee) that they bear a large share of the responsibility for losing the task.
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