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Old 21-06-2013, 12:41
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Old 21-06-2013, 12:49
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EastEnders: Kirsty, Jean, Roxy, Poppy, Shirley, Tamwar, AJ and Sharon since her return.
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Old 21-06-2013, 12:59
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I know he's left EE but Ricky Butcher is a perfect example.
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Old 21-06-2013, 13:03
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Kim relies on Denise, without her Kim is a joke,
Oh wait!
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Old 21-06-2013, 13:59
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Kerry in Emmerdale - she's either whining at Amy or trying it on with a random bloke.
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Old 21-06-2013, 14:00
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EastEnders: Kirsty, Jean, Roxy, Poppy, Shirley, Tamwar, AJ and Sharon since her return.
I know he's going but add Tyler to that
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Old 21-06-2013, 14:27
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EastEnders: Kirsty, Jean, Roxy, Poppy, Shirley, Tamwar, AJ and Sharon since her return.
Shirl mIgnt need to to have storylines but since the split from phil shes intergrated well in with other characters and had good scenes with lots
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Old 21-06-2013, 15:03
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Old 21-06-2013, 16:13
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Shirl mIgnt need to to have storylines but since the split from phil shes intergrated well in with other characters and had good scenes with lots
Only 'integrated' by barging in and sticking her big nose where it's not wanted.
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Old 21-06-2013, 16:14
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Only 'integrated' by barging in and sticking her big nose where it's not wanted.
shes in the shop and theyve still been good scenes
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Old 21-06-2013, 16:21
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Shirley just cannot function without Heather not Phil.

Heather was always the bigger character. If you look back it was Heather who got all the storylines not Shirley. The bulk of Shirley's screen time came from Heather. It was massive mistake axing that character. So much so they have had to rely on Jean to now hold Shirley up.
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Old 21-06-2013, 16:24
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shes in the shop and theyve still been good scenes
I loved the scene with her and Ian in the shop?
When Ian questioned the high cost of a donut or something!
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Old 21-06-2013, 16:25
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Shirley just cannot function without Heather not Phil.

Heather was always the bigger character. If you look back it was Heather who got all the storylines not Shirley. The bulk of Shirley's screen time came from Heather. It was massive mistake axing that character. So much so they have had to rely on Jean to now hold Shirley up.
shirl had more s/ls with phil than heather in her whole time in the show. shirl can work with any character she has shown this, this year. she isnt in scenes with just jean
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Old 21-06-2013, 16:27
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shirl had more s/ls with phil than heather in her whole time in the show. shirl can work with any character she has shown this, this year. she isnt in scenes with just jean
List all of Shirley's storylines and then list all of Heather's.

Go on
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Old 21-06-2013, 16:33
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List all of Shirley's storylines and then list all of Heather's.

Go on
Erm every single one with phil when they were together? Shirley had a better character arc than heather. Heathers s/ls were just stupid.
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Old 21-06-2013, 16:44
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Old 21-06-2013, 16:49
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Erm every single one with phil when they were together? Shirley had a better character arc than heather. Heathers s/ls were just stupid.
All Shirley did was be on/off with Phil more times than a light switch
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Old 21-06-2013, 16:58
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All Shirley did was be on/off with Phil more times than a light switch
Exactly. Roundabout domestics with Phil doesn't equal storylines.

Heather was far more developed than Shirley actually is. Its ironic that is the way it turned out given Heather was only added in to help Shirley's development.
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Old 21-06-2013, 17:00
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I don't really understand this thread. All characters need a storyline and other characters to interact with. Saying that someone is pointless without someone else is just nonsense, it depends on the storylines and plots developed.
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Old 21-06-2013, 17:09
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Exactly. Roundabout domestics with Phil doesn't equal storylines.

Heather was far more developed than Shirley actually is. Its ironic that is the way it turned out given Heather was only added in to help Shirley's development.
So drugs stuff, glendas affair, rainie, stalker stuff, xmas 2011??! They weren't all solely about her but she was apart of them
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Old 21-06-2013, 17:18
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So drugs stuff, glendas affair, rainie, stalker stuff, xmas 2011??! They weren't all solely about her but she was apart of them
You've just hit the nail on the head.

They were not her storylines. She was a bit player in them.
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Old 21-06-2013, 17:20
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You've just hit the nail on the head.

They were not her storylines. She was a bit player in them.
Not all of them. The drugs, glenda, rainie and stalker she was heavily involved in them. She was one of the few who had heavy involvement in xmas 2011 apart from the masoods

She overshadowed sharons return in reveal week
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Old 21-06-2013, 17:41
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Not all of them. The drugs, glenda, rainie and stalker she was heavily involved in them. She was one of the few who had heavy involvement in xmas 2011 apart from the masoods

She overshadowed sharons return in reveal week

Drugs: Phil's story
Glenda: Phil and Glenda had the affair
Rainie: Phil again
Stalker: Wasn't Shirl being stalked

She had a role but not her storylines

But Shirl had nothing to do with Sharon's return storyline
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Old 21-06-2013, 17:48
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I don't really understand this thread. All characters need a storyline and other characters to interact with. Saying that someone is pointless without someone else is just nonsense, it depends on the storylines and plots developed.
No it's not as I said in my previous post look at Ricky, as soon as Bianca left in 1999 he became pointless, when he returned in 2002 without Bianca, his return was a fail and he was axed less than 2 years later, when he returned in 2008 with Bianca it worked out and when Bianca left in 2011 he became pointless.
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Old 21-06-2013, 17:55
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Drugs: Phil's story
Glenda: Phil and Glenda had the affair
Rainie: Phil again
Stalker: Wasn't Shirl being stalked

She had a role but not her storylines

But Shirl had nothing to do with Sharon's return storyline
But most of them were about phil&shirl? What about wedding week? Shirl owned that week!!! The affair affected her in a big way. She set the trap for rainie which again she was a big part of. Shirl outed ben in xmas 2011

Phil only had heavy involvement in wedding ep in that week.

Yes she did she was in her first scene !

Shirl affected phil&bens relationship in a big way. If she hadnt done a lot of things that she did they might not have turned out the way they did in the end

If anything heather ended up being a bit part in the mitchells storylines. She was afterall the catalyst of the whole heather murder. So in a way a lot of heathers stuff wouldnt have happened had shirl not been with phil
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