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I thought that Carlisle was a very good PM. He was motivating, listened to people and could make a decision when the group was divided. The only reservation that I do have about him is that some of his decisions I didn't actually agree with, which may prove to be our downfall - but then, we don't know the result yet. It may turn out that he was right, and if it does, I completely take back any concerns I had with him.
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I thought that Carlisle was a very good PM. He was motivating, listened to people and could make a decision when the group was divided. The only reservation that I do have about him is that some of his decisions I didn't actually agree with, which may prove to be our downfall - but then, we don't know the result yet. It may turn out that he was right, and if it does, I completely take back any concerns I had with him.
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I don't mean this in an aggressive/argumentative way, but one of the ideas that George made apparent he disagreed with was the suggestion to make the chocolate flavour chocolate orange, instead of chocolate. One that was made in order to sustain and maintain our 'healthy' snack image; a snack perfect for both the market we aimed to break into and also the sort of thing that goes well with the ever-growing in popularity tuck shops at schools; particularly primary schools.
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I think Justin was an okay PM. He could have been worse, but I feel that during the first night there was no real leadership from him and everyone was just throwing ideas into the mix.
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David was a great PM in my opinion. From the first night, we knew what we were doing, he organized for everyone to go and do individual market research and then to present any items they had found one by one so we could make an informed decision. He was very diplomatic and made sure that we went with the majority opinion. I also felt that he made sure that everyone contributed by allowing us to go through the final pitch together after each person had done their respective part of the task.
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Helios, where we felt your product lacked any real connection to the original. While we did want you to reinvent the product, we felt you completely changed some of the best things about it, such as the original packaging. Any comments?
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Many of the evaluations of this task echo this - there was moderate praise for Justin as PM but state that the real driving forces within Helios on this task were Tyjet and Katie, most of Justin's praise was for 'delegating well' - do you all feel this is appropriate? For want of a better term would you say that Justin was Luisa'd on this task? |
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Many of the evaluations of this task echo this - there was moderate praise for Justin as PM but state that the real driving forces within Helios on this task were Tyjet and Katie, most of Justin's praise was for 'delegating well' - do you all feel this is appropriate? For want of a better term would you say that Justin was Luisa'd on this task? |
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Many of the evaluations of this task echo this - there was moderate praise for Justin as PM but state that the real driving forces within Helios on this task were Tyjet and Katie, most of Justin's praise was for 'delegating well' - do you all feel this is appropriate? For want of a better term would you say that Justin was Luisa'd on this task? I don't want this to seem like I think Justin was a BAD PM. I didn't. I just think there were SOME kinks which were ironed out by the end of the task. |
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Helios, where we felt your product lacked any real connection to the original. While we did want you to reinvent the product, we felt you completely changed some of the best things about it, such as the original packaging. Any comments? |
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I feel that's fair. At one point Justin actually asked us to tell him what had been decided on the product.
I don't want this to seem like I think Justin was a BAD PM. I didn't. I just think there were SOME kinks which were ironed out by the end of the task. |
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Harmonia, with your product, we felt there was a serious lack of creativity. There are a lot of similar products on the shelves. Originality was an important part of the task brief. Any comments?
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There was one point I asked this because I had to go into a work meeting and you kept working while I was on my job. I don't necessarily think this is out of line? If there's work being done when I'm not there, I want to know what's happening as a PM.
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I did predict this would come up!
I think how well we’ve performed is determined upon how much more important innovation was than the other two parts being judged. I have no doubts that we have more realism and a better market for sales. Galactic Grapes already exist, but as ice lollies instead, and I feel like our actual product – despite being simpler – was better in the long run. The only thing I think we lack is innovation; in the sense that it isn’t an all singing all dancing product which is what the other team have tried to deliver. I think ours is a lot clearer as a concept, a strategy & ultimately a market. Whilst I say we 'lack' innovation. I definitely don't think that it's not there altogether - perhaps just not as creative as an all-singing rocket ship that you can change the flavour of - a rather realistic item for it's market. I say this because I feel the other teams products have several flaws; both realistically and as a product in their target market. I’m not a parent, so correct me if I’m wrong, but I would definitely not want my child having a drink that has dissolvable pockets that could, technically, go everywhere! The whole product sounds, although certainly ‘innovative’, a bit messy in the sense I can’t imagine any parents wanting their children to actually have this. As a soft drink; perhaps, but I feel there was too much concentration on making it all singing & all dancing to have a clear enough market to get into, an audience & ultimately, I feel that ours would sell a lot better. Although there are a lot of biscuits, I do not see any biscuits on the shelves of the supermarkets in particular that rival ours completely; only similar. And the biscuit market is large enough to cater for them all so far - despite only having one or two differences, so I would like to think it's big enough to cater for ours, too. |
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Many of the evaluations of this task echo this - there was moderate praise for Justin as PM but state that the real driving forces within Helios on this task were Tyjet and Katie, most of Justin's praise was for 'delegating well' - do you all feel this is appropriate? For want of a better term would you say that Justin was Luisa'd on this task? Jason missed a lot of the brainstorming on the first day and then didn't really add many ideas after it. Justin asked him several times "could you contribute more" "do you have any ideas" and part of me kinda thought Justin was doing it in a way of pointing out Jason wasn't doing much the first day and almost trying to set him up for a fall. Jason was slow at the start of the day but I feel he put a lot more effort and enthusiasm into the task on the later half. Quote:
Helios, where we felt your product lacked any real connection to the original. While we did want you to reinvent the product, we felt you completely changed some of the best things about it, such as the original packaging. Any comments? |
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Harmonia, with your product, we felt there was a serious lack of creativity. There are a lot of similar products on the shelves. Originality was an important part of the task brief. Any comments? |
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I'd also just like to point out one thing that I think our product has over the other team's product.
Magic Middles were really popular in the past, and were only pulled because of health concerns. We know that if we address those health concerns, they can be brought back and there will be a market for them. The Orbitz product was unpopular because of several things. Yes, they are taking care of those things, but they still can't be sure that their drink will be popular when it comes out. Whereas we can be sure that ours will be, because it was before. |
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Just want to point out that there already appears to be a product that is currently in UK markets which is pretty much the same as Harmonia's product?
http://images.mysupermarket.co.uk/Pr...206960.jpg?v=1 It's not exactly the same, but pretty much the same concept is it not? |
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I did predict this would come up!
I think how well we’ve performed is determined upon how much more important innovation was than the other two parts being judged. I have no doubts that we have more realism and a better market for sales. Galactic Grapes already exist, but as ice lollies instead, and I feel like our actual product – despite being simpler – was better in the long run. The only thing I think we lack is innovation; in the sense that it isn’t an all singing all dancing product which is what the other team have tried to deliver. I think ours is a lot clearer as a concept, a strategy & ultimately a market. Whilst I say we 'lack' innovation. I definitely don't think that it's not there altogether - perhaps just not as creative as an all-singing rocket ship that you can change the flavour of - a rather realistic item for it's market. I say this because I feel the other teams products have several flaws; both realistically and as a product in their target market. I’m not a parent, so correct me if I’m wrong, but I would definitely not want my child having a drink that has dissolvable pockets that could, technically, go everywhere! The whole product sounds, although certainly ‘innovative’, a bit messy in the sense I can’t imagine any parents wanting their children to actually have this. As a soft drink; perhaps, but I feel there was too much concentration on making it all singing & all dancing to have a clear enough market to get into, an audience & ultimately, I feel that ours would sell a lot better. Although there are a lot of biscuits, I do not see any biscuits on the shelves of the supermarkets in particular that rival ours completely; only similar. And the biscuit market is large enough to cater for them all so far - despite only having one or two differences, so I would like to think it's big enough to cater for ours, too. Quote:
Just want to point out that there already appears to be a product that is currently in UK markets which is pretty much the same as Harmonia's product?
http://images.mysupermarket.co.uk/Pr...206960.jpg?v=1 It's not exactly the same, but pretty much the same concept is it not? |
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No, I don't think the product was unoriginal, yes there are biscuit products on the market but there are no other products currently on the market that are the same as 'Magic Middles' i.e. a shortbread biscuit with a gooey middle.
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Just want to point out that there already appears to be a product that is currently in UK markets which is pretty much the same as Harmonia's product?
http://images.mysupermarket.co.uk/Pr...206960.jpg?v=1 It's not exactly the same, but pretty much the same concept is it not? |
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Actually Lady Sugar, in all fairness, there is nothing in the task brief that states that the product has to be original. Just that we should be able to make it marketable again. If originality was that important, then really it needed to be made clear to everyone.
I assumed by asking candidates to demonstrate creativity and innovation that they would assume originality. I'll be sure to spell it out for you in future. A final question now. Which candidates did what parts of each task?
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Harmonia, with your product, we felt there was a serious lack of creativity. There are a lot of similar products on the shelves. Originality was an important part of the task brief. Any comments? |
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I agree with my teammates. I believe they are original as we are not having chocolate in them. We are having other flavours.
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I assumed by asking candidates to demonstrate creativity that they would assume originality. I'll be sure to spell it out for you in future. A final question now. Which candidates did what parts of each task?
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