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Old 24-06-2013, 20:10
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A bit of click bait by the Torygraph there - it really should read 'slowest high end smartphone of the 6 we tested' of course. Still not a great headline for Apple. Great result for the Nexus 4 though, given it's by far the cheapest of the phones tested.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...martphone.html

PS This gaffe is fairly typical of the telegraph when reporting on tecnology:
The second fastest phone was ranked as HTC One, which has a quad-core 1.7-inch processor and 2GB Ram.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:20
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Speed isn't everything. More important is how efficient is a code the processor has to execute.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:21
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comparing a 1 month old phone to a 9 month old phone... shock horror the 1 month old phone is faster - who would have guessed.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:30
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comparing a 1 month old phone to a 9 month old phone... shock horror the 1 month old phone is faster - who would have guessed.

It was also slower than a 8 month old phone costing 240 less.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:31
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Totally useless it doesn't even say which tests were run.

It's the combination of the programming efficiency both of the operating system, application and the hardware that determine how well real world apps perform.

I've got a nexus 4 which runs stuff pretty well but I've used an iPhone 5 and it's just as quick and perhaps the UI is slightly smoother.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:32
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It was also slower than a 8 month old phone costing 240 less.
which one was that ?
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:33
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which one was that ?
I'm assuming the Nexus 4
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:35
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I'm assuming the Nexus 4
he would be wrong about the price then, as the "google" price is heavily subsidised and not the real price of the device.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:37
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I'm not surprised. And the gap is only going to widen with Google's focus for Key Lime Pie rumoured to be maximising optimisation on devices particularly those with RAM < 1GB.

This result is bad for Apple and a blow to fans claiming that that iOS is better optimised for the hardware, yet the top 4 of this study is occupied entirely by Android devices.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:37
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he would be wrong about the price then, as the "google" price is heavily subsidised and not the real price of the device.


So one phone is vastly underpriced and one phone is vastly overpriced. Guess which one I chose?
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:40
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So one phone is vastly underpriced and one phone is vastly overpriced. Guess which one I chose?
the same one that i have i assume ?
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:41
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he would be wrong about the price then, as the "google" price is heavily subsidised and not the real price of the device.
That's a silly argument IMO. That IS the retail price of the device from Google Play. So it's absolutely the real price of the device. Is it very cheap compared to other similar smartphones? Absolutely. But the price of it is the price of it.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:41
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the same one that i have i assume ?

(looks left) Yes.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:42
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That's a silly argument IMO. That IS the retail price of the device from Google Play. So it's absolutely the real price of the device. Is it very cheap compared to other similar smartphones? Absolutely. But the price of it is the price of it.
does that make the price of the iPhone 50 then? as you might pay that price on some contracts for it.

the nexus 4 is around 400 from O2 etc, or varying depending on contract.

the bottom line is that of course those phones will be "faster" (whatever the test for faster was) as they are all newer compared to the iphone 5.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:44
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That's a silly argument IMO. That IS the retail price of the device from Google Play. So it's absolutely the real price of the device. Is it very cheap compared to other similar smartphones? Absolutely. But the price of it is the price of it.
Exactly. I can't believe some people are trying to argue this as a negative. If Google want to sell it at a lower price than everyone else, then that can only benefit the consumer. If anything, Apple's extortionate prices for their devices is the real case to be examined here.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:45
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does that make the price of the iPhone 50 then? as you might pay that price on some contracts for it.

the nexus 4 is around 400 from O2 etc, or varying depending on contract.

But it IS a silly argument as no matter what Google are doing that IS the price you pay SIM free as opposed to 529 for the iPhone 5 SIM free direct from them. That is a true comparison so no idea why you brought a 24 month contract into the comparison.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:45
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Exactly. I can't believe some people are trying to argue this as a negative. If Google want to sell it at a lower price than everyone else, then that can only benefit the consumer. If anything, Apple's extortionate prices for their devices is the real case to be examined here.
i only countered it as someone brought the price up as a positive argument.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:46
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does that make the price of the iPhone 50 then? as you might pay that price on some contracts for it.

the nexus 4 is around 400 from O2 etc, or varying depending on contract.

the bottom line is that of course those phones will be "faster" (whatever the test for faster was) as they are all newer compared to the iphone 5.
The Nexus 4 was released just a month after the iPhone 5, and no doubt they would have been in development at the same time, so that doesn't really aid your argument.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:46
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But it IS a silly argument as no matter what Google are doing that IS the price you pay SIM free as opposed to 529 for the iPhone 5 SIM free direct from them. That is a true comparison so no idea why you brought a 24 month contract into the comparison.
i never mentioned a 24 month contract.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:47
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i only countered it as someone brought the price up as a positive argument.
But it is a positive argument. How can a subsidised price be argued as a negative for consumers? It only benefits the buying public.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:47
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The Nexus 4 was released just a month after the iPhone 5, and no doubt they would have been in development at the same time, so that doesn't really aid your argument.
i have a nexus 4 before you start to think otherwise.

i'm saying that lists like these are flawed, and should be treated as nothing but magazine filler.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:47
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does that make the price of the iPhone 50 then? as you might pay that price on some contracts for it.

the nexus 4 is around 400 from O2 etc, or varying depending on contract.

the bottom line is that of course those phones will be "faster" (whatever the test for faster was) as they are all newer compared to the iphone 5.

The Nexus 4 is one whole month newer. Your arguments are getting sillier.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:47
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he would be wrong about the price then, as the "google" price is heavily subsidised and not the real price of the device.
If Google sell the phone at a price then that is the price of the phone. If it's subsidised or not does not matter as you can buy the phone at Googles price therefore that is the phones price.

What an odd comment.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:48
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But it is a positive argument. How can a subsidised price be argued as a negative for consumers? It only benefits the buying public.
how many people are buying their phones sim free?
vast majority are buying on subsidised contracts.
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Old 24-06-2013, 20:48
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I don't just say this because the result doesn't look good for Apple, but I always think these benchmarks tests are quite meaningless. What's the speed difference in real world use? I'd be surprised if the Nexus 4 was much if any faster than the iPhone 5 for opening, using and switching apps, and performing key tasks.
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