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'Deadly Dinners' or 'Pow Wow'-What would you choose? |
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It's all a bit pointless as the winning team only won by saying they would change the actual product! Alex should have just offered to tone down the packaging and perhaps use a different word to "deadly". I think their idea was at least more interesting and just needed a bit of adjustment.
I think the right team won because the skull and word deadly were a massive, obvious, dangerous mistake and rendered their product unsaleable. What you want the task to do is to sort the silly from the reasonably competent. That task showed Alex as being out of his depth, and Myles as lacking marketing sense. In this case, the task also seemed set up to suggest that taste didn't matter. Usually they go to a chef who supervises their choice, and either does the work for them or watches over production. This time the choice was made by different people to those cooking the final product, eating specimens cooked by someone else We never know if it would have worked as well as it seemed to when a chef gave them the specimen meals, and the people cooking it had never tasted what it should taste like. Francesca made the cardinal error of masterchef failures by not continually tasting her food to get the spicing right, but there was no way to know whether she was producing what Neil and Luisa had decided on, or for a non chef to find a better version. . |
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Poppity Ping
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Thats been a problem for years. Chair too high for most humans, chocolates inedible , food tasteless = problems that can be fixed. Chocolates tasty but too expensive, biscuits taste nasty, label wrong, spelling wrong = fatal error.
I think the right team won because the skull and word deadly were a massive, obvious, dangerous mistake and rendered their product unsaleable. What you want the task to do is to sort the silly from the reasonably competent. That task showed Alex as being out of his depth, and Myles as lacking marketing sense. In this case, the task also seemed set up to suggest that taste didn't matter. Usually they go to a chef who supervises their choice, and either does the work for them or watches over production. This time the choice was made by different people to those cooking the final product, eating specimens cooked by someone else We never know if it would have worked as well as it seemed to when a chef gave them the specimen meals, and the people cooking it had never tasted what it should taste like. Francesca made the cardinal error of masterchef failures by not continually tasting her food to get the spicing right, but there was no way to know whether she was producing what Neil and Luisa had decided on, or for a non chef to find a better version. . |
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I am a mum and I think Deadly Dinners was a great concept. I've no idea why the supermarkets thought it was so bad.
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I agree with this and the firings themselves are becoming a joke, seemingly to justify a finale and an ending LS has already decided upon based on his favourite business plan.
If you bear that question in mind, the firings seem less random. |
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I am a mum and I think Deadly Dinners was a great concept. I've no idea why the supermarkets thought it was so bad.
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Same here.
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I am a mum and I think Deadly Dinners was a great concept. I've no idea why the supermarkets thought it was so bad.
I'm a mum and wouldn't ever dream of buying rubbish for my children. The skull was a massive no-no from me. |
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Lol.
I'm a mum and wouldn't ever dream of buying rubbish for my children. The skull was a massive no-no from me. |
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To be fair, my mum never bought ready meals. To some people, it wouldn't matter what the packaging looked like or what was in it, as ready meals are just not some people's thing (me included).
I'd never ever buy (no matter the level of kids' pressure) a product with skulls on it. What sensible parent would?
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To be fair, my mum never bought ready meals. To some people, it wouldn't matter what the packaging looked like or what was in it, as ready meals are just not some people's thing (me included).
I'd buy my kids a carton of juice or a packet of raisins with a skull on the packaging because my kids love pirates and would have a skull & crossbones on everything if it was up to them. I don't get why people are so opposed to having a skull on packaging. |
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I have no problem with ready-meals and do buy them when pushed for time and to keep in the freezer for emergencies,
I'd never ever buy (no matter the level of kids' pressure) a product with skulls on it. What sensible parent would? ![]() Are you talking any product here (toys, clothing included) or just food/drink products? |
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The name 'Deadly Dinner(s)' on the packaging would put me off even more than the skull.
Maybe I've got a wild imagination, but I don't like any hint of death about my food. |
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It just goes to show supermarkets are more interested in flashy graphics than actually what's in the packet.
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Monster Munch doesn't have monsters in it. Penguin bars don't contain raw sea birds. Deadly Dinners clearly wouldn't really be deadly or remotely dangerous.
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Welcome to the real world, it's all about sales! Supermarkets spend fortunes researching purchasing habits and what makes you put somthing in your trolly. On this task it was all about the branding and Alex's team did everything wrong! When considering a ready meal all your natural impulses would have been signaling away from the "deadly dinner" meaning you probably wouldn't even read it's title. Neil's team didn't win, but Alex's team deffently lost, and ultimately the right man was fired.
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Monster Munch doesn't have monsters in it. Penguin bars don't contain raw sea birds. Deadly Dinners clearly wouldn't really be deadly or remotely dangerous.
They aren't actual ingredients you know...but somehow i'm disinclined
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Welcome to the real world, it's all about sales! Supermarkets spend fortunes researching purchasing habits and what makes you put somthing in your trolly. On this task it was all about the branding and Alex's team did everything wrong! When considering a ready meal all your natural impulses would have been signaling away from the "deadly dinner" meaning you probably wouldn't even read it's title. Neil's team didn't win, but Alex's team deffently lost, and ultimately the right man was fired.
I agree neither team actually won, but Neil's team produced the worst food and IMO had a worse brand. Assuming the decision was correct (which I don't agree with) Myles should have been fired as the person responsible for losing. |
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Neither because I'm vegetarian. But I guess I'd go for Pow Wow. The packaging and the food looked way more appealing.
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And yet the ready-meal producer on You're Fired said the taste was the most important thing, not the branding. Sure a flashy pack might get you to buy something, but if it tasted terrible you would just remember that pack as something to avoid.
I agree neither team actually won, but Neil's team produced the worst food and IMO had a worse brand. Assuming the decision was correct (which I don't agree with) Myles should have been fired as the person responsible for losing. I would have loved to see Louisa go in the other team, but IMO they were the right team to "win". I agree with LAS's decision to fire Alex, we're getting to the crunch time, remember the winner is going to run a business that LAS is putting £250,000 into. As much as you may like Alex, would you trust him with £250,000? Yes Miles lost the task, but he had a pretty good track record before that. Unlike a lot of the others he admitted that he did bad this task and took responsibility rather than trying to shift the blame to someone else. He should learn from this and focus on his business plan. |
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This is a tough one for me....deep down I wanted Alex to win as it was his 1st time as PM....to be honest, I would have tried Pow wow one!! As I wouldnt have an idea that the product is bland beforehand and I dont normally read the labelling, plus I would be buying it for myself......this is where I would go....unfoirtunately!!:sleep::yawn:
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I'd have gone with 'Deadly Dinners' but with the proviso it'd be softened a bit in name, image and tagline to keep the fun factor but appease to the parents. The concept isn't too bad, the food went down well with the target market, and it can branch out to many different types of meals. The other idea which I think was to have ready meals based on cuisine from various cultures would also probably have mileage without being contentious.
'Oh My Pow!' would be a gamble because if the food was as bland as people were saying I would not know how it would taste after adjustments - and since I haven't had Caribbean/Thai fusion food before I wouldn't know how it should taste. The Caribbean/Thai fusion idea is quite risky on the whole I think. |
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I have to say when the parents at the market research started complaining about the packaging I just thought they were a shower of idiots. I can see the problem with the skull to an extent, but do poisons now even still have that symbol?
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What's wrong with a product with skulls on it?
Are you talking any product here (toys, clothing included) or just food/drink products? |
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