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Old 27-06-2013, 13:44
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It seems that the BBC has forced Matt Robinson to disable his very useful and quite harmless Radio Downloader program. Does anyone know of a viable alternative?
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Old 27-06-2013, 16:57
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It appears that if you already have a copy, it is (at the moment) still working, I've just downloaded a random bbc radio piece. His website says they have asked him to remove it from download, which he has complied with. I wonder if they will change things to actually break it.

Its still available from other sources, just google.

He makes no profit, the bbc make no loss, and the programmes get that little bit of extra audience. Gun and foot spring to mind again.
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Old 27-06-2013, 18:23
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Thanks for your reply. It seems some programmes are working and others not. I tried to download Moral Maze but it wouldn't work.
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Old 27-06-2013, 18:33
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Thats odd, which programme are you trying to get ? I just downloaded yesterdays (26/6) Moral Maze programme with no problems. I didn't listen to it all, but the begining, a bit in the middle and the end are all OK. I'm running v0.24.2.0 of Radio Downloader on Vista HP 32bit.
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Old 27-06-2013, 19:19
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Yes, the same programme, Moral Maze. It just will not download nor will it download if I subscribe to it but today's Dad's Army has downloaded. I have Windows 7 Professional 64 bit and Radio Downloader 0.26.2.0. Moral Maze downloads OK with Applian Media Catcher.
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Old 28-06-2013, 00:55
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Does anyone have an answer to the original question please. Is there a viable alternative?
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Old 29-06-2013, 11:41
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Looks like all programmes have now been disabled.
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Old 29-06-2013, 12:36
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The message posted by Matt Robinson on his website is confusing me somewhat:

"Following a request from the BBC, I have removed the Radio Downloader source and installers. They will return shortly minus the BBC Radio Provider plugin (e.g. the ability to download BBC Radio programmes)."

My understanding is that RD downloads ONLY BBC content..... so what would be the point of the RD source and installers returning "shortly minus the BBC Radio Provider plugin (e.g. the ability to download BBC Radio programmes)."?

What exactly will be RD's functionality if the BBC Radio Provider plugin is removed?
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Old 29-06-2013, 13:43
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This heavy-handedness by the BBC really annoys me especially as it currently offers no alternative and even when it does the downloads will be time limited.

I am now using an alternative program the publishers of which are based in the USA so, hopefully, will not be susceptible to the same bully-boy tactics of the spotty-faced BBC suits.
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Old 29-06-2013, 13:45
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If someone can point me to one of the US-based alternatives, it would be very much appreciated. I love Radio Downloader!
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Old 29-06-2013, 16:03
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If someone can point me to one of the US-based alternatives, it would be very much appreciated. I love Radio Downloader!
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Old 29-06-2013, 18:23
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What exactly will be RD's functionality if the BBC Radio Provider plugin is removed?
I assume that it will, when updated, still be able to download radio programmes that are available as podcasts.
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Old 29-06-2013, 22:38
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I wonder if the "request from the BBC" was a nice "please stop doing it" or "if you dont stop we will sue you for everything you have got"
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Old 30-06-2013, 00:06
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They've only done this because of their plan to introduce the ability to download radio shows through iplayer-currently you can only stream them.
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Old 30-06-2013, 00:58
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Yes , but we can't do it yet. Radio downloader now seems to have stopped working totally for me and it can't find any programs. Why can't the BBC see that actions like this simply alienate their loyal listeners.
The concept of radio downloader was great. particularly the subscriptions. I used it to download all dramas to listen to in my car. What they will do now is drive me to a bit torrent site like radioarchive.cc and pick them up from there.
Can Beachcomber let us know the US program he has found please?
Also, I would like to offer my thanks to Matt Robinson for his excellent work over that past few years
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Old 30-06-2013, 03:26
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What a shame to loose this resource Its been very handy for me as I spend time away from home and I'd download lots of broadcast to listen to when overseas
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Old 30-06-2013, 09:25
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Beachcomber-if you want to pm details include me on the list please.
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Old 30-06-2013, 12:19
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Heard the news earlier in the week, thought oh well at least my current install will work a little bit longer till BBC release their new offering next year which should fit my needs.

But arhhh the app stopped working Friday, I guess it stopped working as some of the metadata may come from the authors side rather than the beeb or the app gives the beeb an identifier which it is able to reject which I think may not be likely as they could of bloked it a long time ago and it's only using data the beeb are happy for anyone to use for personal use, its the download element that is the bone of contention.

So I've now got a hole in getting notified of broadcast programmes that may interest me, for the moment I'm seeing if my limited coding skills help me put something together taking the features I like on the radio downloader, here's a very early demo and before anyone asks I'm not intending on doing anything on the download side, there are others that do more than I could achieve in that area and will probable be redundant next year when the beeb unleash their new features.
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Old 30-06-2013, 14:08
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Can Beachcomber let us know the US program he has found please?
One program I already have installed and another I have found but not tried. Neither are free and require a little more user input than Radio Downloader.
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Old 30-06-2013, 14:28
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Whilst it's not an ideal solution due to the proprietary format and the waste of space that entails but I'm using a freeview tuner card and windows media player now. So recording directly as they air rather than pulling from "catch up"
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Old 30-06-2013, 17:43
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W@nkers, totally pointless, they won't stop me recording my favourite shows.
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Old 30-06-2013, 20:45
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It's a real shame they sent the lawyers after him. I've been using it three or four years now, and I've managed to amass hundreds of gigs of radio shows. I'm really going to miss it. Without BBC functionality, there's no real point to Radio Downloader.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:27
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the Radio Downloader is dead,
long live the get_iplayer!

The web based interface of get_iplayer from here,
https://github.com/dinkypumpkin/get_iplayer/wiki/webpvr
might be a bit clunky, but it's a whole lot easier than the original command line interface.
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Old 01-07-2013, 14:58
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I am currently using Applian's Replay Media Catcher - I have it set to automatically convert downloads and recordings to mp3 and to import into iTunes...... I start recording, then go to the appropriate BBC schedule (usually http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programm...s/fm/this_week or http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4extra/pro...ules/this_week), click the link for the programme I want to download and away it goes - provided it is some time AFTER broadcast. It is a pain having to do this for every programme/episode, but I can download up to 5 programmes simultaneously (I could set this to more) and it sort-of works for now.
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Old 01-07-2013, 15:04
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Oh, yes..... and a HUGE thanks to Matt Robinson from me too - RD has been absolutely brilliant...... and two fingers to the w*nk*rs at the BBC who pulled the RD rug from under.... a VERY short-sighted, heavy-handed and POINTLESS move because it will not stop me or anyone else from downloading BBC content for offline listening
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