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The_abbott
01-07-2013
no tears from me. I thought "is that it?" I lost all connections with Tanya about 5 years ago.
cooler
01-07-2013
Originally Posted by Ozcabs:
“Absolute Rubbish

So within two days, you can: [LIST][*]sell off your business[*]arrange your child to transfer from one school to another[*]leave your business without even telling your employees,[*]take out a loan despite selling the business & therefore having no income anymore[*]pack your life in one small bag - no posessions, hardly any clothes[*]Tell your daughter "we're leaving" as she walks down the stairs, who just goes without even packing a bag or even getting changed[*]etc etc[/LIST]
Seriously crap writing, storylining, and continuety - where is the reality in these programmes anymore. It would have been better if not rushed into a week maybe.

Anyway at least she's gone, one Branning down, 50 to go (except Dot, who's always a Cotton in my eyes!)”

Maybe Tanya hasn't sold the business yet, so she'll get someone in the square such as Max to sell it on her behalf?

If Lauren is close to dying due to liver failure, I think the last thing on Tanya's mind will be what school she is going to.

She might have told her employees off-screen. They don't show everything on screen.

How much was the loan she took out? If she hasn't yet sold the business then that would affect her loan application.

Tanya got a suitcase from the top of the wardrobe, not exactly a small bag. Posessions could always be got later.
Ozcabs
01-07-2013
It was more cheers than tears

Could have been done so much better - that production team need a big shake up
Ozcabs
01-07-2013
Originally Posted by cooler:
“Maybe Tanya hasn't sold the business yet, so she'll get someone in the square such as Max to sell it on her behalf?

If Lauren is close to dying due to liver failure, I think the last thing on Tanya's mind will be what school she is going to.

She might have told her employees off-screen. They don't show everything on screen.

How much was the loan she took out? If she hasn't yet sold the business then that would affect her loan application.

Tanya got a suitcase from the top of the wardrobe, not exactly a small bag. Posessions could always be got later.”

lol don't defend it - it was rubbish and you know it!

You'll hear nothing more from her now - Abi just cast aside, the school I meant was Oscar - it was all just rushed - no way in real life could you just leave so fast - what total tripe! Why the mad rush anyway - she could have arranged it & gone over the course of a few weeks!
flyingv
01-07-2013
Originally Posted by ekim316:
“I found that also felt it needed to be an Hour episode”

Why for goodness' sake? Half an hour of Max and Tanya snivelling, weeping and wailing was quite enough thank you.
cooler
01-07-2013
Originally Posted by Ozcabs:
“lol don't defend it - it was rubbish and you know it!

You'll hear nothing more from her now - Abi just cast aside, the school I meant was Oscar - it was all just rushed - no way in real life could you just leave so fast - what total tripe! Why the mad rush anyway - she could have arranged it & gone over the course of a few weeks!”

OK, it was a bit rubbish.

However, in real life, people leave places in very short notice if it's an emergency. Soaps accelerate things, but that has always been the case. Pregenancy's don't normally last for 9 months in soap for instance even in the 90s soap heydays.

Oscar is only about 5 so school isn't as important as later, so Tanya can just arrange to find a new school later. The authorities are hardly going to imprison her for not arranging a new school for him before she left Walford.

As the clinic for Lauren is highly important you'd think they would allow people to come at very short notice instead of needing weeks of advance notice so not exactly a SOR there.
T.K. Mazin
01-07-2013
Originally Posted by Markieb:
“Well dont watch it then Its not exactly rocket science”

Ah, the stereotypical DS response . I always see this same response whenever anybody makes the big mistake of criticising EE and I can't help laughing at them .
You do know I was joking, right? Or is that too much of a difficult concept for you to grasp? Honestly, some people on these forums have no sense of humour whatsoever :sleep:. It's a fictional TV show we're talking about here! Not a serious issue about life and death.
I could apply the same argument to you: If you don't like reading criticism about your beloved EastEnders, then don't come on DS. It's not exactly rocket science . Right back at ya, sonny!

Besides, I'm not going to stop watching a TV show because some joker on a forum told me to . I mean really? Bit of a pathetic post really, Markieb.
kitkat1971
01-07-2013
Originally Posted by Paul Wilson:
“I must admit I got a bit choked twice.
'Goodbye Oscar.'
'Goodbye Abbie.'

And the little underdone moment between Tanya and Cora. Christ knows why that got to me, I don't even bloody like Cora!”

Oscar and Abi saying goodbye was sweet but I'm not going to miss Tanya much - at least not the Tanya we have had since 2011.
kitkat1971
01-07-2013
Originally Posted by cooler:
“OK, it was a bit rubbish.

However, in real life, people leave places in very short notice if it's an emergency. Soaps accelerate things, but that has always been the case. Pregenancy's don't normally last for 9 months in soap for instance even in the 90s soap heydays.

Oscar is only about 5 so school isn't as important as later, so Tanya can just arrange to find a new school later. The authorities are hardly going to imprison her for not arranging a new school for him before she left Walford.

As the clinic for Lauren is highly important you'd think they would allow people to come at very short notice instead of needing weeks of advance notice so not exactly a SOR there.”

The Education Authority take any prolonged absence from School very seriously, even for 5 year olds and she has already left with him once this year for several weeks so could well already be on file. There is about 3 weeks to go before the end of this term. You can say it isn't as important as later on, of course not if he was say sitting exams but a lot of necessary grounding goes into these early years. What if he is a year behind in his reading and writing at his 7 year tests because of all these absences.

Yes, Tanya needed to get Lauren help, urgently. A child in danger of dying over rides everything else but frankly the most responsible thing to have done with Oscar would have been to leave him with Max until the end of term and then collect him then, when she would have had 2 months to sort something out before September. It would also have left her free to concentrate all her efforts and attention on Lauren. Though, that said, most residential units don't want family and friends to have any contact at all for the first few weeks, if not months so I'm not quite sure what she is going to do there once she has got Lauren settled in.

I doubt she has told the staff she was leaving as it was so last minute and she didn't want Max to find out. However, she'll probably just ring or email Poppy to take charge and she seems to manage the place most of the time anyway.
lotty27
01-07-2013
Originally Posted by haphash:
“Agreed. I could understand Tanya's decision to send Lauren to the clinic and to move near for a bit to support her but it was very badly handled. There was no need for her to make a decision about leaving permanently or to try and drag Abbie down there when she could have stayed with Max. No body would leave everything behind so casually and not even have packed before calling a cab!!!”

Trouble is, Tanya can't actually send Lauren anywhere, at 19 she's an adult and would have to agree to it. Personally I thought Tanya's attempted ambush of her although understandable it was ultimately not on. No matter what Tanya did, once Lauren got there and understood what the premises was she was under no obligation to sign herself in and no facility would admit her without her say so (unless she'd been sectioned for her own safety) so Tanya's grand plan fell on it's @rse from this aspect. I was glad when Lauren questioned Max he gently told her the truth but my jaw hit the floor when she quietly acquiesced to go, I thought there'd have been a bit more fuss than that the way Lauren's been behaving lately. All very convenient but I'm prepared to go along with the fact that she suddenly realised she needed help.

Originally Posted by Ozcabs:
“Absolute Rubbish

So within two days, you can: [LIST][*]sell off your business[*]arrange your child to transfer from one school to another[*]leave your business without even telling your employees,[*]take out a loan despite selling the business & therefore having no income anymore[*]pack your life in one small bag - no posessions, hardly any clothes[*]Tell your daughter "we're leaving" as she walks down the stairs, who just goes without even packing a bag or even getting changed[*]etc etc[/LIST]
Seriously crap writing, storylining, and continuety - where is the reality in these programmes anymore. It would have been better if not rushed into a week maybe.

Anyway at least she's gone, one Branning down, 50 to go (except Dot, who's always a Cotton in my eyes!)”



When you put it like that ...

Originally Posted by cooler:
“Maybe Tanya hasn't sold the business yet, so she'll get someone in the square such as Max to sell it on her behalf?

If Lauren is close to dying due to liver failure, I think the last thing on Tanya's mind will be what school she is going to.

She might have told her employees off-screen. They don't show everything on screen.

How much was the loan she took out? If she hasn't yet sold the business then that would affect her loan application.

Tanya got a suitcase from the top of the wardrobe, not exactly a small bag. Posessions could always be got later.”

I'm pretty sure that Tanya said to Max she'd sold Booty's to cover the cost of the rehab so he wouldn't have to worry about the cost.

Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Oscar and Abi saying goodbye was sweet but I'm not going to miss Tanya much - at least not the Tanya we have had since 2011.”

Don't think I'll miss her and her condescension at all.
Though I am looking forward to seeing the actress herself in other roles.

Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“The Education Authority take any prolonged absence from School very seriously, even for 5 year olds and she has already left with him once this year for several weeks so could well already be on file. There is about 3 weeks to go before the end of this term. You can say it isn't as important as later on, of course not if he was say sitting exams but a lot of necessary grounding goes into these early years. What if he is a year behind in his reading and writing at his 7 year tests because of all these absences.

Yes, Tanya needed to get Lauren help, urgently. A child in danger of dying over rides everything else but frankly the most responsible thing to have done with Oscar would have been to leave him with Max until the end of term and then collect him then, when she would have had 2 months to sort something out before September. It would also have left her free to concentrate all her efforts and attention on Lauren. Though, that said, most residential units don't want family and friends to have any contact at all for the first few weeks, if not months so I'm not quite sure what she is going to do there once she has got Lauren settled in.

I doubt she has told the staff she was leaving as it was so last minute and she didn't want Max to find out. However, she'll probably just ring or email Poppy to take charge and she seems to manage the place most of the time anyway.”

BIB: Agreed. I think I said something similar in the episode thread but like I said it would never going to happen as these are TANYA's children and Tanya's alone (unless they need money, then they have a dad) Oscar would have been much better off with his dad, sister and grandma for now until (like you say) Tanya got settled wherever she's eventually supposed to live. They should just have her moving to the next borough of London so she's out of Max's way but close enough for her family to still help out. But the writers never worry about these things so why should I?
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