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Old 29-06-2013, 09:38
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Good article about why British films are so poor compared to movies made elsewhere. Surely we can do better than endless dreary films set on council estates ? http://m.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/ju...-film-industry
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Old 29-06-2013, 10:30
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I'm sorry but that, like a great deal of what is written in The Guardian, is complete rubbish. It just sounds like Mike Figgis is bitter because his frankly mostly not very good films aren't "respected" enough by the British film industry.

That business about all British films being depressing council-estate kitchen sink dramas is nonsense as well. In the last couple of years alone we've had Skyfall, Berberian Sound Studio, Sightseers, Coriolanus, Attack the Block, Senna, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and loads more! All different genres and styles and only one of them set on a council estate, and that one was sci-fi!

Hollywood's hardly the creative, indie powerhouse he claims either. Their studios are mostly obsessed with whatever CGI/3D superhero/robots/crap car chase franchise lowest common denominator rubbish they can pump out. And I'm saying that as someone who likes superhero films!
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Old 29-06-2013, 10:40
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I'm sorry but that, like a great deal of what is written in The Guardian, is complete rubbish. It just sounds like Mike Figgis is bitter because his frankly mostly not very good films aren't "respected" enough by the British film industry.

That business about all British films being depressing council-estate kitchen sink dramas is nonsense as well. In the last couple of years alone we've had Skyfall, Berberian Sound Studio, Sightseers, Coriolanus, Attack the Block, Senna, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and loads more! All different genres and styles and only one of them set on a council estate, and that one was sci-fi!

Hollywood's hardly the creative, indie powerhouse he claims either. Their studios are mostly obsessed with whatever CGI/3D superhero/robots/crap car chase franchise lowest common denominator rubbish they can pump out. And I'm saying that as someone who likes superhero films!
Skyfall was financed by Columbia Pictures and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, hardly British.

Senna was financed by France's StudioCanal, but produced by Working Title.

A better example might have been Seven Psychopaths, which is a fairly populist British film, set entirely in America, with no British actors. But written and directed by Martin McDonough, There is literally one reference to England, and it's a joke about the weather.

It was co-financed by the BFI and Film4, where does that fit in his "kitsch'n'sink" scale?
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Old 29-06-2013, 11:03
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Harry Potter series???
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Old 29-06-2013, 11:12
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For whatever it's worth, a trailer for my all time favourite film "Cashback" - which just happens to be a british film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf2drFZbHH4
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Old 29-06-2013, 11:20
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American film has gone the same way, replace "corporate" for "establishment" and it's really the same thing.

Basically if's an elite looking after themselves. Entertainment that challenges the corporate/establishment view is simply not allowed, both in the UK and in the US.
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Old 29-06-2013, 11:25
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Harry Potter series???
Again, not British, financed by Warner Bros. Who are American...
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Old 29-06-2013, 14:00
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Again, not British, financed by Warner Bros. Who are American...
If it had been a British financed film, Harry would been drug addict living on a council estate who had been abused as a child.
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Old 29-06-2013, 14:45
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If it had been a British financed film, Harry would been drug addict living on a council estate who had been abused as a child.
I think he has a point about 90% of British films being about holligans or the aristocracy, but the rest of it does appear to be jealous bitching about the fact he can't get funding. Whilst successful, good film makers like Danny Boyle CAN get people to cough up...
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Old 29-06-2013, 14:49
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British Horror films are probably amongst the better ones recently released i.e Eden Lake, The Descent & 28 days later come to mind.
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Old 29-06-2013, 14:55
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there is loads of good english movies.
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Old 29-06-2013, 16:07
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British films are just the big screen version of BBC1 and ITV1 drama (be it misery soaps or la de dar Frocks and Top Hats). Expansive thrillers, big concept dramas just don't get made in Britain by British companies. Even horror a flick like Shaun of the Dead is a very suburban horror flick that could have been made for Channel 4.
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Old 29-06-2013, 16:15
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British films are just the big screen version of BBC1 and ITV1 drama (be it misery soaps or la de dar Frocks and Top Hats). Expansive thrillers, big concept dramas just don't get made in Britain by British companies. Even horror a flick like Shaun of the Dead is a very suburban horror flick that could have been made for Channel 4.
Does that say good things about our television or bad things about our films (or both)?
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Old 29-06-2013, 18:18
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British films are too mundane and depressing for my liking.

I hate kitchen sink dramas.
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Old 29-06-2013, 19:07
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The big six studios/distributors all have their headquarters in America, as does Dreamworks, MGM and Lionsgate. The offshoots are American based. Our companies do not have the money to solely fund many movies. We are doing ok though.

Kiss-Ass, Robin Hood, Skyfall, Nanny McPhee, Clash of the Titans, Harry Potter, The King's Speech, Seven Psychopaths, Chronicles of Narnia III, Paul, Tamara Drewe, Bronson, Les Miserables, The Woman in Black, We Need to Talk About Kevin, Mamma Mia and Slumdog Millionaire. All of these movies had strong British connections.
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Old 29-06-2013, 19:18
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since when have british films just been 'kitchen sink dramas'???
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Old 29-06-2013, 19:54
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If you've got some spare cash you can support a British film being made at the moment

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ka...-2--2/x/957476
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Old 29-06-2013, 20:01
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Ten British films Brits should see but don't

1: matter of life and death
2: Saturday night sunday morning
3: Brighton rock
4: the rebel
5: seance on a wet afternoon
6: peeping Tom
7: plunkett and MacLaine
8: cool it carol
9: photographing fairies
10: league of gentlemen (1960.... Ish)
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Old 29-06-2013, 20:05
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Ten British films Brits should see but don't

1: matter of life and death
2: Saturday night sunday morning
3: Brighton rock
4: the rebel
5: seance on a wet afternoon
6: peeping Tom
7: plunkett and MacLaine
8: cool it carol
9: photographing fairies
10: league of gentlemen (1960.... Ish)
Shit! I forgot. Blood on satan's claw, deep end, performance, if, and the devils........
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Old 29-06-2013, 20:16
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OP, that of course does not include Ken Loach films, universally recognised as very high class.

There are a few other British film makers that are the exception, Bryan Forbes, Attenborough, and one off good films, Croupier for example.

Obviously many are very poor, and even worse, most rather poor ones are praised to the skies because they are British and then when seen a big comedown.
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Old 29-06-2013, 20:39
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Does that say good things about our television or bad things about our films (or both)?
Depends! Small scale domestic dramas can be very good but are best left to TV I think.

The days when films as ambitious as A Matter of Life and Death or Things to Come got made will never return and that was in truth just a brief enough era in the first place.

Danny Dyre, lotto funded junk, the 'Notting Hill set' nonsense is what seems to account for most domestic production. Its just as well the UK is still seen as an attractive place for USA and other international productions.
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Old 29-06-2013, 20:40
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Ten British films Brits should see but don't

1: matter of life and death
2: Saturday night sunday morning
3: Brighton rock
4: the rebel
5: seance on a wet afternoon
6: peeping Tom
7: plunkett and MacLaine
8: cool it carol
9: photographing fairies
10: league of gentlemen (1960.... Ish)
I've seen 1) and 6) - both very good (I own Peeping Tom actually).
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Old 29-06-2013, 20:42
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Good article about why British films are so poor compared to movies made elsewhere. Surely we can do better than endless dreary films set on council estates ? http://m.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/ju...-film-industry
Your talking rubbish but obviously your entitled to your opinion .


I saw Man of Steel today now that was Rubbish.
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Old 29-06-2013, 20:53
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I thought The Bank Job (2008) was pretty good.
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Old 29-06-2013, 21:04
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I thought The Bank Job (2008) was pretty good.
Gangster and crime films have probably been the highlight of the commercial side of British films in the last 15-20 years or so (while also marking some pretty deep low points as well).

Bank Job, Croupier, Sexy Beast, Harry Brown, Layer Cake, Gangster No 1, Lock Stock...all pretty good.
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