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EE - And they call this acting?
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Grumpy_Alan
29-06-2013
With the potential of the Max/Tanya storyline it was a great shame to see it totally ruined by the apalling 'acting' by Max.


At one time shouting so laud that it was necessary to turn the sound down, at other times totally incomprehensible mumbling. The only way to make any sense of his 'performance' was to constantly keep adjusting the volume.


Is it the fault of the actor?

Is it the fault of the sound engineers?


Either way, like so many BBC programmes these days the sound balance was awful.

Do any of the production staff actually listen to the output in a domestic environment?



Wouldn't happen in the terminally boring Tennis, for sure!
earthling13
29-06-2013
Oh dear, I hope you've got a thick skin!
xTonix
29-06-2013
Jake Wood is one of the best actors in soap, most people do shout when they are peed off, you should come live in my area, if you think Max's shouting is bad, you havn't heard nothing.
benjymerlin
29-06-2013
I have always managed to hear and understand him perfectly, I also find Max and Tanya to have rather realistic arguements
klendathu
29-06-2013
Compared with Dexter and Joey Braindead , Max is clear and easy to understand
Uncle Quentin
29-06-2013
Have to say I found it an utter drag of an episode last night, just Max & Tanya going over the same old repetitive ground we've witnessed countless times over the past few years.

I gave up half way through & switched over to Four Rooms.

I don't expect loyal EE fans to agree with me, but as leaving episodes go, that was a stinker.
PinkPetunia
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by xTonix:
“Jake Wood is one of the best actors in soap, most people do shout when they are peed off, you should come live in my area, if you think Max's shouting is bad, you havn't heard nothing. ”

I dont think he is .I never forget he is acting and thats the real measure of an actor IMO
broadshoulder
29-06-2013
I agree with you uncle quentin,

I was counting the minutes till it was over.
Davetherave70
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Uncle Quentin:
“Have to say I found it an utter drag of an episode last night, just Max & Tanya going over the same old repetitive ground we've witnessed countless times over the past few years.

I gave up half way through & switched over to Four Rooms.

I don't expect loyal EE fans to agree with me, but as leaving episodes go, that was a stinker.”

Couldn't agree more.
earthling13
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Uncle Quentin:
“Have to say I found it an utter drag of an episode last night, just Max & Tanya going over the same old repetitive ground we've witnessed countless times over the past few years.

I gave up half way through & switched over to Four Rooms.

I don't expect loyal EE fans to agree with me, but as leaving episodes go, that was a stinker.”

I said on another thread I don't think Jo and Jake needed to turn up. They could have just spliced together clips from earlier episodes.
ChipDouglas82
29-06-2013
Another excuse to slag off Eastenders? Why couldn't you have added it to the other hundred Anti-Easenders threads?
Uncle Quentin
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by ChipDouglas82:
“Another excuse to slag off Eastenders? Why couldn't you have added it to the other hundred Anti-Easenders threads?”

No need for excuses my friend, EE are happily handing out all the ammo needed by the bucket load.
jimbo23
29-06-2013
Tanya's exit was naff, she's either back at Xmas or she's pissed somone off
dan2008
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Grumpy_Alan:
“With the potential of the Max/Tanya storyline it was a great shame to see it totally ruined by the apalling 'acting' by Max.


At one time shouting so laud that it was necessary to turn the sound down, at other times totally incomprehensible mumbling. The only way to make any sense of his 'performance' was to constantly keep adjusting the volume.


Is it the fault of the actor?

Is it the fault of the sound engineers?


Either way, like so many BBC programmes these days the sound balance was awful.

Do any of the production staff actually listen to the output in a domestic environment?



Wouldn't happen in the terminally boring Tennis, for sure!”

There's no Max in the cast.
There is a character of Max played by the fantastic Jake wood.

I had no problem with the show on BBC1HD
I understood everything.
dan2008
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by jimbo23:
“Tanya's exit was naff, she's either back at Xmas or she's pissed somone off”

Jo's break was only going to be short but then as time went on she decided to take a Full time break (for the time being at least) Maybe that upset the people behind the scenes or the exit was only planned as a Temp thing.
Lewi26
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Uncle Quentin:
“Have to say I found it an utter drag of an episode last night, just Max & Tanya going over the same old repetitive ground we've witnessed countless times over the past few years.

I gave up half way through & switched over to Four Rooms.

I don't expect loyal EE fans to agree with me, but as leaving episodes go, that was a stinker.”

I said before the episode I was glad it would be the last max and Tanya argument / boring arse relationship discussion we would have to see and I would be able to say it word for word because its all been done before an I was right. . It was crap. Not one bit of creativity has gone into the writing for these two for years and thank god ill never have to hear max mumble

Tan

Tan

Tan

Tan

Babe

Babe

Tan

Piss off


To be fair jo and jake are good actors but the writing is shocking
doormouse1
29-06-2013
OP - and who are you?

I have never seen you comment on any EE thread before, so is this a new opinion, or prompted by the fact that EE beat Corrie in the ratings for once?
dan2008
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by doormouse1:
“OP - and who are you?

I have never seen you comment on any EE thread before, so is this a new opinion, or prompted by the fact that EE beat Corrie in the ratings for once?”

Exactly...they come out of the wood work every now and again.

Just had a little search back and the OP is in fact a corrie fan. He made a post in an EastEnders thread not so long ago

'Becoming?

Wrong word.

The word you need is short and sweet - is

EE - a byword for mediocrity.

Weak storyline - get the characters to shout.

Weak acting - get the characters to shout. '
dantay24uk
29-06-2013
Thought it was a wonderful episode and even though it's Max & Tanya again, I felt that we covered new ground as Tanya finally faced the responsibilities she and Max have been ignoring for almost 20 years. They're toxic and not only are they bad for each other but they're killing their children.

Jake Wood and Jo Joyner were fantastic and it was almost effortless. They tugged at your heart strings while almost making you tut with disgust. The balance of emotions was fantastic and I thought it was wonderfully written by Simon Ashdown. I felt for the first time in a long time, it appeared that they were highlighting some good continuity. I remember that very first argument on the Square between the couple and I was so pleased (and impressed) that it was referenced last night.

As for not being able to understand Jake Wood. That's ridiculous, I heard every word.
Grumpy_Alan
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“There's no Max in the cast.
There is a character of Max played by the fantastic Jake wood.

I had no problem with the show on BBC1HD
I understood everything.”


Perhaps you are confused because I used the labels Max/Tanya to identify the characters.

Regardless, the actor who 'plays' the part of Max was the one reason why the otherwise high quality performances were spoiled for most viewers.

Not sure how you can describe an actor whose vocal range is either shouting or mumbling, and can only portray 'emotion' by frowning or scowling, as 'fantastic'.

If you could understand every word of his dialogue then I would certainly not like to be a near neighbour of yours - you must have had the volume turned up to excruciating levels.
dan2008
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Grumpy_Alan:
“Perhaps you are confused because I used the labels Max/Tanya to identify the characters.

Regardless, the actor who 'plays' the part of Max was the one reason why the otherwise high quality performances were spoiled for most viewers.

Not sure how you can describe an actor whose vocal range is either shouting or mumbling, and can only portray 'emotion' by frowning or scowling, as 'fantastic'.

If you could understand every word of his dialogue then I would certainly not like to be a near neighbour of yours - you must have had the volume turned up to excruciating levels.”

My TV (as always) was on a reasonable level however it's funny given the episode thread 20 odd pages,the 6 trending topics on Twitter (Including top uk trend) and still trending at 12:45 this morning and only you so far had no idea what was being said (I expect other people to jump on the bandwagon now though)
Grumpy_Alan
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by doormouse1:
“OP - and who are you?

I have never seen you comment on any EE thread before, so is this a new opinion, or prompted by the fact that EE beat Corrie in the ratings for once?”

Forgive me for intruding on what is obviously a private Forum. I must apologise for failing to understand that these Forums are only for 'approved' posters.

Just because I choose, or not choose, to past to any particular thread is quite immaterial. Is there anything wrong with lurking, even?
Hit Em Up Style
29-06-2013
Originally Posted by Grumpy_Alan:
“Forgive me for intruding on what is obviously a private Forum. I must apologise for failing to understand that these Forums are only for 'approved' posters.

Just because I choose, or not choose, to past to any particular thread is quite immaterial. Is there anything wrong with lurking, even?”

Just report those posts because quite frankly they are out of order, against the rules of the site and there is nothing wrong with you voicing an opinion. (not that I agree with it) Just because you never post in EE threads doesn't mean you can't.

Seriously the antics on here at times are ridiculous. Oh they slagged off EE they must be corrie fan!!! GROW UP.
big dan
29-06-2013
For the most part I think Jake Wood is good and he and Jo have incredible chemistry, however sometimes I can't quite ignore the fact that he is trying very hard to give 'a credible performance' and it becomes very apparent that this is an actor playing a role. Last night though I think it was fine, tbh was too busy laughing at the sheer cheek of the character! The show was well and truly stole by Jo though.
Broken_Arrow
29-06-2013
I just posted on another thread that he was appalling in Friday's episode

Jake Wooden is a very limited and predictable actor who has been phoning it in for years. I'll admit he used to be okay but he's always been overrated and you'd think he would've put a bit more effort in knowing this was Tanya's ''final'' episode. The character of Max is repugnant and should be axed. He literally makes my skin crawl (the character, not the actor).
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