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Old 29-06-2013, 18:26
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I have a Nexus 7 which I've had since October. Anyway my boyfriend is now looking into getting a tablet.

Would you recommend ipad 4 or nexus 10? I note the nexus 10 is 80 cheaper.

He will only use it to browse online and play games etc..

I guess they are pretty similar so perhaps doesn't matter?
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Old 29-06-2013, 19:05
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Or is an iPad 2 still OK? See they cheaper too.
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Old 29-06-2013, 19:26
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Tegra 4, many times faster supposedly launches big time next month.

That should mean the likes of the fast Nexus 10 becomes more budget.
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Old 29-06-2013, 20:07
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The Nexus 10 as it has a higher resolution than the current generation iPad and has a A15 processor. Also, iOS is a stale OS.

What is your budget? What size? Also, are they demanding games?
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Old 30-06-2013, 10:20
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Wants the 10" around 300 - 400 I'm not sure what games he plays just little app time games nothing big and fancy.
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Old 30-06-2013, 10:20
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Thanks alanwarwic
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Old 30-06-2013, 13:07
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Wants the 10" around 300 - 400 I'm not sure what games he plays just little app time games nothing big and fancy.
What about the Galaxy Tab 2 (or the Galaxy Tab 3.0, which is launching soon?).

That should fit your needs:
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/laptop...72576-pdt.html
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Old 30-06-2013, 15:14
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Yes that looks good actually. Being thick but does it update to jelly bean like the nexus or guess that will be the 3.0
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Old 30-06-2013, 16:15
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I don't think the nexus 10 works as well in the real world as the iPad 4 ( which has a better contrasty screen than the nexus)

It's also a bit laggy. Nexus 10 has been a commercial flop, and I can see why. If you want the best tablet experience then there are many more tablet optimised apps for the iPad.

It's all about the apps and not so much about the operating system for the tablets
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Old 30-06-2013, 16:47
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I don't think the nexus 10 works as well in the real world as the iPad 4
I was going to suggest that the restricted nature of IOS can suit games delivery and marketing.

In saying that, it is quite a shame about the real world. It simply ain't out there and maybe never will be.
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Old 30-06-2013, 16:55
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Yes that looks good actually. Being thick but does it update to jelly bean like the nexus or guess that will be the 3.0
It is running 4.1, and is expecting an update to 4.2 (which is what the Nexus 10 is currently running).
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Old 30-06-2013, 16:57
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I don't think the nexus 10 works as well in the real world as the iPad 4 ( which has a better contrasty screen than the nexus)

It's also a bit laggy. Nexus 10 has been a commercial flop, and I can see why. If you want the best tablet experience then there are many more tablet optimised apps for the iPad.

It's all about the apps and not so much about the operating system for the tablets
The lack of tablet optimised apps argument is now pretty much invalid in my opinion. Google Play has plenty.
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Old 30-06-2013, 17:38
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Told him about the galaxy 2 as cheaper. Think will get that for now. Then maybe in the future see what's about. Def think that one will suit him enough. Cheers
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Old 30-06-2013, 17:54
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Told him about the galaxy 2 as cheaper. Think will get that for now. Then maybe in the future see what's about. Def think that one will suit him enough. Cheers
The galaxy tab 2 10.1 is a nice all purpose tablet. A good choice.
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Old 30-06-2013, 19:08
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Thanks been reading more and have made him have a read up and def will suit what he wants. I'm quite happy with my nexus 7. As long as twitter works I'm happy.
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Old 30-06-2013, 19:23
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Thanks been reading more and have made him have a read up and def will suit what he wants. I'm quite happy with my nexus 7. As long as twitter works I'm happy.
Good to hear
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:58
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The lack of tablet optimised apps argument is now pretty much invalid in my opinion. Google Play has plenty.
Hmm well I think there is still a big gap in specific tablet apps, I find the lagg on the big android tablets a little disappointing as well.

This is totally fixed in the Nexus 4 and almost fixed on the 7 which are both the best devices in their market for the money.

This article I pretty much agree with.

With google releasing new toolsets we may see the situation change
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Old 01-07-2013, 15:44
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This is totally fixed in the Nexus 4 and almost fixed on the 7 which are both the best devices in their market for the money.

This article I pretty much agree with.

With google releasing new toolsets we may see the situation change
I've occasionally seen my N7 slow down, but not very often. At the end of the day its a multi tasking computer ....

As for that article, what a load of nonsense. In fact, for the most part articles talking of "Androids fragmentation" are talking complete and utter rubbish.

The only time when there's an issue with "fragmentation" is from lazy developers. Thats it. Those same developers would have had nightmares developing for PCs, where there are thousands of resolutions, processors and memory combinations.
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Old 01-07-2013, 20:06
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I've occasionally seen my N7 slow down, but not very often. At the end of the day its a multi tasking computer ....

As for that article, what a load of nonsense. In fact, for the most part articles talking of "Androids fragmentation" are talking complete and utter rubbish.

The only time when there's an issue with "fragmentation" is from lazy developers. Thats it. Those same developers would have had nightmares developing for PCs, where there are thousands of resolutions, processors and memory combinations.
It sounds like you know nothing about development.

Have you actually tried to develop an Android application ? the toolsets aren't that great at the moment for multi device development, multi device testing and so on.

With all due respects PC application development has way more mature tools for developing standard applications. The only area where PC fragmentation is in any way an issue is in game development and all you do is basically allow all the 3d parameters to be configurable by the user so the game can be run on what you deem to be a minimum spec.
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Old 02-07-2013, 00:03
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The galaxy tab 2 10.1 is a nice all purpose tablet. A good choice.
For the money you pay it has a rather pathetic old dual core chipset which is quite old hat now. Even the ageing tegra 3 would be a better option so no, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is big NO NO unless you're paying less than 150 for it.
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:54
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For the money you pay it has a rather pathetic old dual core chipset which is quite old hat now. Even the ageing tegra 3 would be a better option so no, the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is big NO NO unless you're paying less than 150 for it.
A dual core is good enough for a lot of people's needs unless you want to play hard core games.

I swapped out my original galaxy tab a few months ago because it had stability issues and the replacement has been very smooth and snappy. Not as good as my ipad mini but still quite stellar. Doesn't the ipad 4 only have an 'old dual core chipset' by android standards and that is a beast in terms of performance.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:15
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It sounds like you know nothing about development.

Have you actually tried to develop an Android application ? the toolsets aren't that great at the moment for multi device development, multi device testing and so on.

With all due respects PC application development has way more mature tools for developing standard applications. The only area where PC fragmentation is in any way an issue is in game development and all you do is basically allow all the 3d parameters to be configurable by the user so the game can be run on what you deem to be a minimum spec.
If there's one thing I know about, its software development. Over 30 years experience on a variety of platforms. However I've never had the time or inclination to look into Android development.

Is the Android toolset really that poor? Normally targeting different resolutions hasn't been a problem, and I still maintain that its down to lazy coding. It must be trivial to detect the device resolution and amend accordingly; if it isn't, then yes - Androids developer toolset is seriously below par.

PC developers have tended to put together their own toolsets ..... nothing to stop Android developers going that route if they were so inclined. But they won't, as developers these days are lazy.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:04
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Saw this one http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/laptop...49722-pdt.html
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:36
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Or galaxy note 10.1 is quad core
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Old 02-07-2013, 11:21
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I have the Note 10.1 and it's a very nice tablet. You'll see people grumble about the screen not being as high res as some of the opposition but I can't say it bothers me. It all looks perfectly sharp and readable to me. It's effectively a 720p (or thereabouts) screen in a 10 inch form factor so it's not going to look "blocky" or some of the similar rubbish you'll read online.

I also have an iPad Mini which runs the same processor as the iPad2 and while I never notice any lag on the Note 10.1, I do get the odd bit of slowdown on the Mini. For me, the best feature of the Mini is the form factor. I prefer it when I'm out and about, but the Note when I'm at home.
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