Sorry but how can you dismiss something as 'poor writing' without even seeing it. It's just the basic story that's been leaked. How are we to know how it's going to be told on screen. I think every story deserves to be given a chance and not dismissed as poor months before its even aired

That doesn't alter the fact that while Ronnie was in prison, Alfie was quite happy to shack up with her sister and even try for a baby with her, yet as soon as Ronnie is released he suddenly not only dumps her sister but gets back with the woman who cheated on him and has lived a completely separate life from him for months, even sleeping with other people, Kat was last week happy for him and roxy, now she will break them up just because she is upset Ronnie is coming back.

I think in some cases viewers would be forgiven for dismissing something before seeing it onscreen. Kat and Alfie's never-ending storyline of splitting up and getting back together is one of them. Max and Tanya too. Which is why I'm glad Tanya has left, so we don't have to watch the same storyline play out over 3 or 4 years .

I can't stand the people-pleasing doormat idiot,Alfie Moon. :Poor Roxy
I'm looking forward to Ronnie's return, though

I hope Kat and Alfie follows suit

It can be. Dismissed even on writing now. Roxy is and has always been ronnies sister. He got with her knowing that. And given the trauma ronnie went through and circumstance of what happened, it is not unsurprising roxy has stood by her. She wasnt some evil person who targeted a child wanting to replace James. Alfie never wanting to be friends with ronnie is understandable, but given the serious nature of is relationship with roxy and her visiting ronnie in jail, this was always going to crop up. Even if ronnie lived off the square, it was always likely she would be in driving distance to roxy and they were always so close, with roxy dependent on her in a lot of ways. And it almost becomes contradictory. He finally realised he wasn't a doormat with kat and reached breaking point, only for him to forgive her but not move past roxy wanting a relationship with her sister and help her sister. At the end of the day, roxy wasn't there for ronnie always yet ronnie was there for her, this is her chance to make up for everything ronnie did for her and the pain she caused her sister (ie. jack)

I can understand kAt getting back with Alfie more than him taking her back. But there are unrealistic couples all over the square. Problem is that good writing or not, I couldn't care less about kat and Alfie, same way some people couldn't care less about ronnie. I don't like the couple and prefer kat on her own. They could write the most emotional reunion, but it won't make a difference to me as there has been too much damage done to the relationship. Thy weren't working even before the cheating.

Hear hear!

I quite liked the idea of Alfie and Roxy at first, but Roxy became extremely unlikeable once she got her feet under the table at the Queen Vic, and was a shrewish, suspicious miseryguts who constantly gave Alfie a hard time - and the baby desperation smacked too much of Ronnie..

As a couple they just do not gel. I'm hoping against hope that they can somehow repair Kat and get her back together with Alfie, as when they were good together, it really worked.

As for Ronnie - sorry, I'm not a fan and I'm not looking forwards to her miserable face back on my screen at all, and would have preferred her not to return at all. Hopefully it will only be a short tenure.

It's too easy to build Kat back up by knocking Roxy down. Why bother let Kat address her actions, show her guilt, atone for her actions and move on with her life by forgiving herself and getting help for her problems when you can make her 'rival' into a giant d-bag in order to make Kat look better by comparison?

I do agree about Roxy and Ronnie to a certain extent, Roxy and alfies relationship was never allowed to flourish and be natural because the twin spectors of Kat and Ronnie were always hovering in the background, Roxys relationship with him has been written to make her "shrewish" to facilitate the "highly anticipated" Kat/alfie reunion, but Roxy has always been unlikable tbh, very selfish, but to put them through months of a relationship to the point where marriage and babies are on the cards, then just destroy it all to give Alfie an excuse to go crawling back to kat, is pathetic.

Ronnie was ruined as a character for me, I really liked her at the start when she and Roxy were running the Vic and their "party nights"! But by the end she was just a walking cliche, sooo depressing. I really hope she is "happy" Ronnie on her return but I'm not putting money on it

no she's not, but would you want her living back near you if she took your baby?...No, I don't think so..

Forget Tommy
She paid Sam to take Richard away

She encouraged Roxy not to allow Sean to know she was pregnant and encouraged her to leave the country instead of telling him. (She believed the Sean was the father at the time)

And the most dangerous act.
Sending Louise away into the night, in London alone. She was not sent back to SS as Louise turned up again later that night in the vic alone. So Ronnie allowed this young child under 10 to be walking the streets of London at dark? "I sent her away" she did not send her the social. So this little girl was left by her mother, has no home finds her dad only to be sent away again? WTF

Ronnie has form for separating parents from their children to the point of putting a baby in danger.

I love Ronnie but its unrealistic even if Kat/Alfie would want her there to be allowed on the square. It shows she doesn't respect their wishes so isn't that sorry. And as a mother no I wouldn't want her near my child. She wouldn't be allowed to work in a school or even in the community centre. We know the background but technically she was convicted of a serious offense of which the victim was a young child. That is taken very seriously. If she ever has a child of her own automatically due to that offense it would be on the at risk register.

I love the character apart when she is with Jack. But let us not pretend she is somehow not got form for messing up kids. Its cruel to separate families like that. And its downright dangerous what happened to Louise.

Hmm no i certainly dont wanna see Kat and Alfie back togther.

Why exactly is Alfie so shocked anyway? It is not like he doesn’t know that Ronnie is Roxy’s sister. And he also knows Ronnie is due to be released. Did he really have to wait to see Ronnie to remember that she is Roxy’s sister?
How idiot is he? I swear these characters are written as mentally retarded people or people who go through phases of amnesia periodically as the plot sees fit.

And Kat and Alfie again, no doubt reuniting for Christmas to give the viewers that warm fuzzy feeling the producers seem to think this couple bring.
They are disillusioned too.
I am so glad I gave up this garbage a long time ago.

There is one good thing that could have come out of this, for Kat and Alfie to leave the square together, never ever to be seen again. They have been ruined beyond redemption.
It doesn’t seem like the producers or the actors have any intention of leaving any time soon though, so good knows how long they will remain on screen with their tedious relationship.

As long as I dont have to watch Alfie eating I will cope . His manners are just awful .The scene with him eating breakafst with AJ and Massod was stomach churning ., Yuck .

I wish Kat and Alfie would do us all a favour and sod off for good . ugh .

AXE THESE CLOWNS !

I’m one of the few on here that actually doesn’t mind them getting back together – I liked them as a couple back in the day, but the problem on this stint has been the writing. The producers are convinced that we like them as a yo-yo couple constantly arguing and breaking up and getting back together.

NEWSFLASH PRODUCERS: WE DON’T.

When written well, and given good material to work with, both characters work. They use to bounce off each other, have funny banter and therefore be enjoyable to watch. Either put them together and let them be happy, or keep them apart.

Sadly what has cheapened this current plot is the Alfie / Roxy pairing and how it came about so quickly. He moved onto her and moved her into the pub within a week of the split with Kat. What chemistry that had subtly been created was ruined in one swift move. Although Alfie never cheated on Kat, it lost him a bit of the upper hand in many ways. Roxy and Alfie since getting together also have no chemistry plus her calling him granddad is just WRONG!

yeah gettng fed up of the yo yo love story of Kat and Alfie. Everybody knew they would get back together eventually and when it was anounced Ronnie was returning we all guessed the plot devicethat she would become.

This is a daily mail story so not surpirised they clled Ronnie evil but they have got 2 thirds of the storyline correct its that obvious. EE rarely surprises these days. You don't need to read spoilers because a 2 years old can work out how the current stories will pan out.