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Power out on amp wired plug ?
Hi have sony amp that has a power out on the back of but the socket is a weird shape can anybody help me find a plug that fits the socket please the amp in question is the sony STR-DN1030.
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Can you post a picture of the socket?, the downloaded manual doesn't show one.
But generally such sockets are standard IEC ones. |
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It probably looks something like this <=>. Apologies for the awful attempt at the shape but it's the best I can achieve without the ability to insert an image. Basically it's a flattened out hexagon. Is that what you've got?
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Yes thats the one
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This is from the Sony UK website.
http://sp.sony-europe.com/da/984/294366.jpeg So where exactly is this socket you are talking about because I can't see one? |
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its is next to the power lead on mine
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its is next to the power lead on mine
![]() But I have no idea where from. Can't find any image that looks any different to that link |
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I have something like this on my Teac amplifier... the flattened hexagon <==> shape.
unfortunately, none of my other teac separates have the plug to fit in to it. |
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Like this?
http://www.110220volts.com/CEE-7-16-plug.html Type C electrical AC male. There are male/female variants. |
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As others have mentioned, it sounds like a non-UK model, and probably uses the EU plugs mentioned in post #9.
However, the service manual makes no mention of such a socket either, not for any country?. |
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As others have mentioned, it sounds like a non-UK model, and probably uses the EU plugs mentioned in post #9.
However, the service manual makes no mention of such a socket either, not for any country?. I bought a PC, must be 20 years or so ago, which had a power out socket on the PSU, (to power a monitor as was common back then), with a note in the box saying the socket must not be used due to some regulation or other. Not entirely sure if it only applied to PCs - though you'd have to ask why is a power out socket more dangerous on a PC than any other device. But maybe that explains the lack of any such socket that anybody has been able to find? Perhaps the OP's unit is second hand and has had an "aftermarket" mod done to it? |
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Knocking about in the far reaches of my brain is a thought that such sockets were banned by the EU (or it's equivalent back then) many years ago.
I bought a PC, must be 20 years or so ago, which had a power out socket on the PSU, (to power a monitor as was common back then), with a note in the box saying the socket must not be used due to some regulation or other. Not entirely sure if it only applied to PCs - though you'd have to ask why is a power out socket more dangerous on a PC than any other device. But maybe that explains the lack of any such socket that anybody has been able to find? Perhaps the OP's unit is second hand and has had an "aftermarket" mod done to it?
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You are correct, down to the non safety shuttered design. My Denon amp has such a socket but came fitted with a blanking plate over it. I did in fact remove this to connect a Denon DVD player
![]() So it begs the question, if a chassis socket is dangerous why is the near identical cable version not also dangerous? And equally, why is it perfectly OK to sell/use IEC socketed mains distribution units ![]() Or does logic not come into it with EU regulations
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Thing is most of these sockets were IEC types. Where the design of the chassis socket very closely matches the cable socket.
So it begs the question, if a chassis socket is dangerous why is the near identical cable version not also dangerous? And equally, why is it perfectly OK to sell/use IEC socketed mains distribution units ![]() Or does logic not come into it with EU regulations ![]() The input socket on my Denon is a IEC two pin design. The output is a two pin socket very like a shaver socket. The shape of the plug is rectangular with a triangle grafted on each end. At one time they were common. If you download the manual for a Denon AVR4306 the connector is clearly shown on the rear view. If you can't find one I can upload a picture. EDIT found a picture Right hand side just under the input socket http://www.audioenz.co.nz/2006/denon_4306.shtml |
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Thing is most of these sockets were IEC types.
![]() Common on old equipment was American style flat two pins sockets
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As far as I'm aware there's no problem with the IEC types?, but those were relatively 'recent'
![]() Common on old equipment was American style flat two pins sockets ![]() Aren't these more commonly known as kettle leads? My just replaced Denon receiver, sub and active speakers all have IEC type connections, non of which are recent/current makes/models. Doesn't the Sony STR DA5800 have switchable AC outlets which are flat two pin types? |
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IEC types recent?
Aren't these more commonly known as kettle leads? My just replaced Denon receiver, sub and active speakers all have IEC type connections, non of which are recent/current makes/models. Doesn't the Sony STR DA5800 have switchable AC outlets which are flat two pin types? This shows the Sony does, but are they blanked off when bought from a non grey import source in the UK ? http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwAg&dur=225 |
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IEC types recent?
![]() Relatively recent if you're old! ![]() Quote:
Aren't these more commonly known as kettle leads? Quote:
My just replaced Denon receiver, sub and active speakers all have IEC type connections, non of which are recent/current makes/models. Doesn't the Sony STR DA5800 have switchable AC outlets which are flat two pin types? |
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This shows the Sony does, but are they blanked off when bought from a non grey import source in the UK ?
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwAg&dur=225 The type of connection that is on Katfish's Sony amp will use round pin 2-pronged plugs. These are European style for 220/240V. I can't comment whether Sony segregates by European country and by product range, but they appear have pan European warranties within the consumer electronics group. This would suggest to me that cross border sales within Europe are catered for. LINK [Note: link might take a while to download. Try Save As instead] |
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You are correct, down to the non safety shuttered design.
Seems silly to be different on the back of amplifiers. |
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But mains sockets in Europe don't have shutters (or switches) anyway. The only protection is them being recessed as in the Shulko design or sleeved pins as on type C plugs.
Seems silly to be different on the back of amplifiers. Even Shaver Sockets have shutters despite having an isolation transformer. |
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Not silly, you can't even legally sell a item in the UK that does not have a BS1363 plug fitted (or a approved adaptor).
Even Shaver Sockets have shutters despite having an isolation transformer. Presumably the shutter requirement only applies above a certain pin/hole size?. |
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But IEC sockets don't have shutters, yet are perfectly legal - for example the afore mentioned kettle leads and also figure 8 leads.
Presumably the shutter requirement only applies above a certain pin/hole size?. This is the connector for the socket that is fitted on my Denon. There must have been some reason for the socket itself to have a blanking plate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug The Denon DVD player came with a suitable cable and also a cable with a BS1363 plug. |
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So I have an illegal stereo?
Surely its only dangerous if you're stupid enough to push something metal into the actual socket while the stereo is switched on?! |
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So I have an illegal stereo?
Personally I would have assumed that it was blanked off because it was sold in the UK, and we don't use those plugs here. If it was 'illegal' it wouldn't have been blanked off so it could be easily removed, it would more likely have been removed instead. Quote:
Surely its only dangerous if you're stupid enough to push something metal into the actual socket while the stereo is switched on?! |
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