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Old 01-07-2013, 21:32
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Okay he has some issues with staying faithful to women but that's about it! Compared to most other people in EE, he's a Saint!

Always tries to do what's best for kids kids (okay with the exception of when he was with his early 20's and he walked out on Bradley) and other than having infidelity issues, he's a pretty decent guy.
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Old 01-07-2013, 21:37
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I think maybe you should explain more about how Max is such a good person, because I just think he's a selfish pratt who only thinks about himself!
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Old 01-07-2013, 21:42
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I think maybe you should explain more about how Max is such a good person, because I just think he's a selfish pratt who only thinks about himself!
Agreed.

Yes, but OP, Max's affairs have directly effected his children, so I don't think I would say he's always doing what's best for his children. His affairs are the main reason why the Branning family is such a mess. They have been the catalyst for their problems. If he really wanted to do what's best for his kids, he would've stopped having affairs.

Although I wouldn't say he's completely selfish, he does at least try to be a good parent when he's bothered - but most of the time that isn't the case. When he does make the effort, he ends up coming across as a bull in a china shop and makes the situation worse with his shouting and arguing. He also likes his blame other people for his failures as a parent. Just an all round selfish waste of space really.
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Old 01-07-2013, 21:44
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He was a terrible dad to Bradley. He walked out on him and then slept with his fiancé. He is a ridiculously selfish man who never thinks of his kids.
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Old 01-07-2013, 21:50
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He was a terrible dad to Bradley. He walked out on him and then slept with his fiancé. He is a ridiculously selfish man who never thinks of his kids.
I did say except that. I think he cares a massive amount about his kids now.
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Old 01-07-2013, 21:55
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I did say except that. I think he cares a massive amount about his kids now.
You didn't mention him sleeping with his son's fiancé. He loves them, but he doesn't put them first. Even when Tanya was talking about getting help for Lauren, he was more concerned about losing Tanya. He stood by and watched Lauren almost drink herself to death (same with Tanya). She even bought a bottle of vodka in front of him and he didn't check her bag. He's also been stringing Kirsty along. He wanted her when he was with Tanya and now he has her, he doesn't want her. He was only with her because Tanya didn't want him. He doesn't care about breaking her heart.
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Old 01-07-2013, 21:59
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Okay he has some issues with staying faithful to women but that's about it! Compared to most other people in EE, he's a Saint!

Always tries to do what's best for kids kids (okay with the exception of when he was with his early 20's and he walked out on Bradley) and other than having infidelity issues, he's a pretty decent guy.
You have contradicted both 'good' points that you raised about Max.
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Old 01-07-2013, 22:01
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You didn't mention him sleeping with his son's fiancé. He loves them, but he doesn't put them first. Even when Tanya was talking about getting help for Lauren, he was more concerned about losing Tanya. He stood by and watched Lauren almost drink herself to death (same with Tanya). She even bought a bottle of vodka in front of him and he didn't check her bag. He's also been stringing Kirsty along. He wanted her when he was with Tanya and now he has her, he doesn't want her. He was only with her because Tanya didn't want him. He doesn't care about breaking her heart.
Exactly. If that's not selfish, I don't know what is.

The very idea of Max being a doting father who always does best for his kids is contradicted by his affairs. The two points aren't separate. You cant say, "Max might be a cheating scumbag, but he's a great father who always does best for his kids." The cheating not only effects his wife, but also his kids. As I said before, if he really wanted to do what's best for his kids, he would stop falling into bed with other women that aren't his wife.

Affairs aside, he's still a piss poor parent as your post lays out. His and Tanya's inaction as parents is why Lauren is in the state she is now. Heck, at times, it feels like Abi is the parent and Max and Tanya are the children.
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Old 01-07-2013, 22:01
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He is a selfish snake who thinks only of himself and his sex life . There has been so many examples of this I would be here all night

His crocodile tears don't fool me .
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Old 01-07-2013, 22:03
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He is a selfish snake who thinks only of himself and his sex life . There has been so many examples of this I would be here all night

His crocodile tears don't fool me .
Did they fool you when Bradley died and at Bradley's funeral?
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Old 01-07-2013, 22:15
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He only cares about his KIDS now that he's left KIRSTY!!
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Old 01-07-2013, 22:41
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Ahhh,,, the bottomless pit that is Max Branning.
Compared to Tanya and certain other members of his family, he's a goddam saint. Tanya always acted like she was the better person, but the minute she buried the poor bloke alive and shacked up with his brother she lost me. Even Jo Joyner has admitted Tanya was an awful mother. Jack is most likely a murderer and acted horribly when he was with Tan, plus Derek was just repulsiveness incarnate.

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I wouldn't call him a good person, not by any stretch of the word. This is the man who abandoned his infant son and wife to be with the latest attractive 18 year old who came along. This is the man who was happy to sleep with his son's fiancée behind his back, even trying to get into her knickers on his wedding day! Max had no thought or care for what that affair would do to all 3 of his kids, and this didn't change even after Bradley died.

He's also done some pretty nasty things even when he could keep it in his trousers, such as throttling Peter Beale, manipulating Abi to burn Tanya's evidence of his adultery, and attempting to set up Jack for murder (but, hell, that storyline was just stupid. Max should be doing time for possession of a firearm and perverting the course of justice).

And yet...
You can still see things from his point of view, at least following Stacey. When Stacey was around he was a prick, there is no denying it. But in all honesty, I think Tanya's actions against him where much worse than what he ever did to her. His family too had always been horrible to him. Jack revelled in stealing his wife, even though he didn't really have any feelings for her. Derek always looked down at him, while Jim spent years despising him over something Jack did. When Tanya buried him alive, he knew he was damaging his family and stayed away. It was only when he returned, thinking Tanya had summoned him, and discovered she'd shacked up with his brother did he go on the turn.

Then you need to look at the Kirsty situation. He had been booted out of the square by his family. Depressed and alone, he had spent time with his dodgy brother, fell in love with Kirsty, and married her. Then, he's summoned back to Walford to find Tanya is very sick indeed, the woman he has always loved. It was Derek who ensured that he never saw Kirsty again, and also that he never found out she was pregnant. Yes, it was spineless of him to not tell her to her face, but Max is, fundamentally, a coward, and hates it. As far as he was concerned, they were divorced, and that was that. He couldn't face her again. He loved her, but wanted to be with Tanya.

In all, he's flawed, yes. Very flawed indeed. He's not the best father and underneath it all will put women before his kids. And yet, he does care for them, and has recognized his actions have been wrong in the past. So no, he's not a very good person. I wouldn't say he's even a particularly good person. But he's not overly bad.
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Old 01-07-2013, 22:44
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Thanks for giving me a laugh, OP!

Max is a rotten dad. When he found out Tanya was leaving with Oscar, all he was concerned about was losing his chance with Tan. His idea of parenting is to throw money at his kids without asking any questions. He doesn't give a shit about giving his children stability, he was willing to abandon them to run off with Stacey. His own daughter tried to kill him, for God's sake! He loves his kids but he doesn't know the first thing about being a dad and he's not bothered about learning.
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Old 01-07-2013, 22:45
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At least Tanya was no longer with Max when she got together with Jack. He lost his right to be pissed when he cheated on her time and time again.
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Old 01-07-2013, 22:48
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He only cares about his KIDS now that he's left KIRSTY!!
So he says. How long before a new blonde catches his eye?
One thing with Max is that he never means what he says. He tells Tanya that he loves her and will never cheat again, yet he does just that.
He tells the kids he will be there for them, but ends up being preoccupied with something else.
He assures Tanya that he doesn't love Kirsty, and then hooks with Kirsty soon after .
Endless lies and broken promises.
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Old 01-07-2013, 23:45
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Max can't be that great a father if it is partly his fault his daughter is now a raging alcoholic, the same daughter that tried to kill him because she hated him so much.
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Old 02-07-2013, 00:43
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Max Branning is the scum of the earth. Constant cheater, awful parent, selfish, arrogant, rude, the list is endless. Max, along with his succubus Tanya, have been a blight on EastEnders since they joined. But like a lot of vile individuals he is capable of being kind on rare occasions. That doesn't make him a nice person in general. It was only in Friday's episode he was willing to put Lauren's health at further risk by continuing his toxic relationship with Tanya to the detriment of her recovery.
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Old 02-07-2013, 00:45
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Old 02-07-2013, 00:57
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So he says. How long before a new blonde catches his eye?
One thing with Max is that he never means what he says. He tells Tanya that he loves her and will never cheat again, yet he does just that.
He tells the kids he will be there for them, but ends up being preoccupied with something else.
He assures Tanya that he doesn't love Kirsty, and then hooks with Kirsty soon after .
Endless lies and broken promises.
This is what i mean!
Moments after leaving Kirsty he's back at Tanya telling her he loves her, yet tonight he could not tell Kirsty that he don't love her!

He hardly noticed Lauren being a drunk most of the time!
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Old 02-07-2013, 00:58
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Plus he got it on with Stacey his Son's Wife!
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:34
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This is what i mean!
Moments after leaving Kirsty he's back at Tanya telling her he loves her, yet tonight he could not tell Kirsty that he don't love her!

He hardly noticed Lauren being a drunk most of the time!
Exactly. He can't decide which bed he wants to sleep in. One day he wants to sleep in Tanya's bed. Next day he wants to sleep in Kirsty's bed. He just goes in circles with them and these women just let him .
He claims Tanya is the love of his life - yet told Stacey the same thing before she left . Like I said, the man is a walking contradiction. He's nothing more than a weak-minded selfish sex addict.

When he did notice Lauren drunk, he'd blame Joey or someone else . He doesn't seem to understand his own parental responsibilities.
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:35
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Plus he got it on with Stacey his Son's Wife!
And with her best friend!
I think her name was Becca.
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