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Old 03-07-2013, 09:20
Gill P
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As I am thinking of ditching the BT Vision box now we have a Smart TV, and wonder if I could use my external hard drive as a recorder.

We have a Samsung 5 series Smart TV and now rarely use the Vision box except for recording programmes which we then watch and then delete.

Can someone advise me please?
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:25
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The answer is likely to be yes. The TV manual should tell you if the TV will record to usb. Don't expect to be able to use the drive for anything else, it's likely it will be formatted using a file system your PC won't understand and also that the files will be encrypted.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:38
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Presumably the BT Vision box allows you to record two programmes, whilst you watch a third live on your TV?.

Using an external HDD on your TV means you can only record a single channel, and not watch another at the same time.

I agree with Graham that it's pretty likely that your TV will allow this, and that it will be encrypted and non-transferable - and if you ever want to use the HDD elsewhere it will need to be reformatted.

I've played with Sony TV's in this way, purely because it's the sort of question I'm likely to get asked at work - and it's an excellent facility for essentially no cost (assuming you have an external HDD already). However, it's NOT a PVR, and doesn't offer anything like a PVR's functionality - but if you already have a drive (and there's nothing you need on it - as it will be wiped) it would cost you nothing to give it a try.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:57
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Yes, the Vision box does allow us to record two channels while watching a third (and actually record a fourth on the DVD recorder!). I think losing this facility would be more trouble than its worth so I think I will keep the V Box. It is only 5 a month which under the circumstances is not a lot to pay for the convenience.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:04
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Yes, the Vision box does allow us to record two channels while watching a third (and actually record a fourth on the DVD recorder!). I think losing this facility would be more trouble than its worth so I think I will keep the V Box. It is only 5 a month which under the circumstances is not a lot to pay for the convenience.
Will it not still record (as a Freeview PVR) if you cancel your subscription?, if not why not just buy a Freeview PVR to replace it?.
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Old 03-07-2013, 13:11
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Maybe overkill for this thread but some of the very top end Panasonic TV's have effectively 4 tuners ( 2 x freeview HD & 2 x freesat ) that allow you to record a program that is not on the same station that you are watching , but a standard PVR may be that answer or better something like a Pana DMR - Pwt 530 as a all in one system .
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Old 03-07-2013, 14:35
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Will it not still record (as a Freeview PVR) if you cancel your subscription?, if not why not just buy a Freeview PVR to replace it?.
No it won't because it is one of the old BT boxes and has to be on a BT Vision subscription. Apparently the new ones are better in that respect.
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Old 03-07-2013, 15:09
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No it won't because it is one of the old BT boxes and has to be on a BT Vision subscription.
That's why I asked
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Old 03-07-2013, 17:58
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Thought so! How much are freeview PVRs? Don't want to pay too much but if I got one for, say, 75, it would pay for itself in 15 months!
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Old 03-07-2013, 18:11
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At 75 quid you are at the bottom end of the market. Cheap Turkish or Chinese clone machines with random badges like Bush or Alba on the front.

If you don't mind a factory refurbished unit then a Humax "manager's special" will get you a HDR Fox-T2 for 129

http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/product.asp?ProdRef=10104

Far better machine than anything at the bottom end of the price range
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Old 03-07-2013, 21:16
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Anyway, I was wrong with my sums - 75 would be paid for in 15 weeks, not months! Never was good at maths despite the O-level!

Thanks for the link - I'll think about it.
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Old 03-07-2013, 22:19
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Anyway, I was wrong with my sums - 75 would be paid for in 15 weeks, not months! Never was good at maths despite the O-level!

Thanks for the link - I'll think about it.
if youre paying 5 per month, then it will take 15 months until it costs 75!
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Old 03-07-2013, 22:26
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I connected an Hitachi 320GB portable drive to my Samsung Series 6 TV 2 years ago and it does the biz for me. I'm not that bothered about having multiple tuners as it's no big deal if there are 2 programmes I'd like to see at the same time. I'm quite happy to watch one and miss the other. It'll probably be on again or I can watch it 1 hour later or via the net, or if not so what?

With just the one drive I can still timer record one programme or a programme series with just a couple of presses on the remote and I can pause live TV with a single press for up to 1.5 hours. To connect to the drive is dead easy as it's just another source and the drive starts automatically when the TV comes on and runs silently in the background with no problems at all.

I can also organise the recorded programmes in various ways on the drive and all in all it's very easy and simple. The HD recorded quality is equal to that produced via the TV with no playback errors.
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:33
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if youre paying 5 per month, then it will take 15 months until it costs 75!
No you are right - I think I must be losing my marbles! I am getting bogged down with all these numbers.
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Old 04-07-2013, 14:47
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Well, I bit the bullet and ordered the Humax. Delivery is on Tuesday next but I had to pay an extra 6 because we live on the Isle of Wight! Nice place but expensive sometimes.
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Old 08-07-2013, 14:15
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Chrisjr, I would like to thank you for the link to the Humax direct site. I ordered one last week and it arrived this afternoon and it is up and running already. Brilliant!
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