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Judio
28-07-2016
Yes but with the seedings it is a lot harder to get into a CL Group
Judio
03-08-2016
Wow Dundalk could prove me wrong

Great result last night

They are Guaranteed at least a place in the EL Group Stages

I bet Celtic would love to have a play off tie with them !!!
TLG86
03-08-2016
Celtic's coefficient is surprisingly good so I think they will be seeded should they progress to the playoff round.
Judio
03-08-2016
Correct

They got to the Knockout round in Cl 4 years ago

That counts still

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/...eedcl2016.html
Mark.
05-08-2016
As expected, Man City and Celtic play on opposite days in the CL play-off round.

Dundalk are on the same day as Celtic.

Tues 16 Aug

Kobenhavn v APOEL
Dinamo v Salzburg
Steaua v Man City
Ajax v Rostov
Young Boys v Gladbach

Wed 17 Aug

Ludogorets v Plzen
Celtic v H. Beer-Sheva
Dundalk v Legia
Porto v Roma
Villarreal v Monaco

Tues 23 Aug

Plzen v Ludogorets
H. Beer-Sheva v Celtic
Legia v Dundalk
Roma v Porto
Monaco v Villarreal

Wed 24 Aug

APOEL v Kobenhavn
Salzburg v Dinamo
Man City v Steaua
Rostov v Ajax
Gladbach v Young Boys
mightymillie
05-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mark.:
“As expected, Man City and Celtic play on opposite days in the CL play-off round.”

When you pay a billion pounds for rights, you get some say in the fixtures.
singhss1
10-08-2016
Tuesday 16th August 2016
UEFA Champions League Play-Off 1st Leg
Steaua Bucharest v Manchester City - 7:45pm (BT Sport 2 HD)
Young Boys v Borussia Monchengladbach - 7:45pm (BT Sport 3 HD)

Wednesday 17th August 2016
UEFA Champions League Play-Off 1st Leg
Celtic v Hapoel Beer-Sheva - 7:45pm (BT Sport 2 HD)
Dundalk v Legia Warsaw - 7:45pm (BT Sport 3 HD)
FC Porto v AS Roma - 7:45pm (BT Sport/ESPN HD)
wal28
16-08-2016
Just noted that for Sky subs the extra games BT are showing via the red planner are now also available to record via the Sky planner in the same way that interactive games are on the Sky platform.

Great news if as a Sky sub you wish to watch two red button games (so for example tonight Dinamo Zagreb-Red Bull Salzburg and Ajax-Rostov for instance).

Really pleased BT and Sky have worked on this and hope that this isn't a one-off.

Appreciate a bit of a niche thing (but hey when one has been titled niche it's only reasonable to live up to that!) but it makes me very happy.
brundlebud
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by wal28:
“Just noted that for Sky subs the extra games BT are showing via the red planner are now also available to record via the Sky planner in the same way that interactive games are on the Sky platform.

Great news if as a Sky sub you wish to watch two red button games (so for example tonight Dinamo Zagreb-Red Bull Salzburg and Ajax-Rostov for instance).

Really pleased BT and Sky have worked on this and hope that this isn't a one-off.

Appreciate a bit of a niche thing (but hey when one has been titled niche it's only reasonable to live up to that!) but it makes me very happy.”

Cue the complaints that not every single CL game is available at a different kick-off time so that completists can watch all of the games live
sat-ire
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by brundlebud:
“Cue the complaints that not every single CL game is available at a different kick-off time so that completists can watch all of the games live ”

Followed close behind by the old-timers (like me) with a reminder to be grateful for any live football on TV at all
arunan22
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by wal28:
“Just noted that for Sky subs the extra games BT are showing via the red planner are now also available to record via the Sky planner in the same way that interactive games are on the Sky platform.

Great news if as a Sky sub you wish to watch two red button games (so for example tonight Dinamo Zagreb-Red Bull Salzburg and Ajax-Rostov for instance).

Really pleased BT and Sky have worked on this and hope that this isn't a one-off.

Appreciate a bit of a niche thing (but hey when one has been titled niche it's only reasonable to live up to that!) but it makes me very happy.”

Now...we just need a HD red button service on Sky!
Rich1977
16-08-2016
My Virgin Media Tivo guide shows Astra v West Ham listed on BT Sport 2 this Thursday at 7pm but it's not showing on the BTSport website.
wal28
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by brundlebud:
“Cue the complaints that not every single CL game is available at a different kick-off time so that completists can watch all of the games live ”

To be fair that would be amazing but that's never been available even on Sky - it's also highly improbable that I would have anything left of my a) relationship, b) career c) personal life (that would be assuming I have any of those things in the first place )

As a matter of fact ITV Sport used to show all the games from earlier in the week on a tape delay basis throughout the rest of the week but they didn't show all the games live in the way Sky did when they first picked up the rights. That was pretty thrilling for a football anorak such as myself - the first multiscreen game back in about 2003 I watched was AEK Athens-Monaco - just because I could!
brundlebud
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by wal28:
“To be fair that would be amazing but that's never been available even on Sky”

True, but this seems to be what some people want, judging by comments about the 3pm blackout for live Premier League games and Virgin's complaint to Ofcom. The obvious next step is to apply that to the Champions League as well
mlt11
17-08-2016
Looking very likely indeed that CL for 2018/21 will move to 4 clubs from the top four countries straight into the group stage.

(Currently only top three countries get 4 clubs – and it's 3 into the group stage and one into the play-offs).

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/blog/marcott...y-gab-marcotti
samburrows
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Looking very likely indeed that CL for 2018/21 will move to 4 clubs from the top four countries straight into the group stage.

(Currently only top three countries get 4 clubs – and it's 3 into the group stage and one into the play-offs).

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/blog/marcott...y-gab-marcotti”

Good spot, thanks mlt11.
TLG86
17-08-2016
On the one hand I don't like the sound of making it more of a closed shop for the big leagues. But then I don't like the current qualifying format. As far as I can tell, it hasn't done anything to improve the standard in the lower ranked leagues.

I'd prefer to go back to the old qualifying format that meant both third and fourth had to qualify, but the chances were that they would. If a BATE or a Ludogorets could beat a Man City or a Roma then good luck to them and they thoroughly deserve to be in the competition.

What I do think is interesting is the dynamic between the Premier League on the one hand and the other big clubs around Europe. For a break away super league to work it would surely need the English clubs including Liverpool and Man Utd. Whilst I don't think La Liga or Serie A would be in a position to chuck out clubs like Real Madrid or AC Milan, the English clubs would face a difficult decision because of the money generated by the Premier League. Sure it, would lose its allure if Man Utd and Liverpool, but I think it could survive.
Brian 77
17-08-2016
So 16 teams qualify automatically from the 'big' 4 leagues, how are they going to get the other 16 into the group stage. Portugal Holland etc.. champions will have to go tru a couple of qualifiers i presume.
wal28
17-08-2016
I seem to recall Martin Samuel arguing very vehemently against this qualification play-off method with the champions playing each other and the non-champions going through a different method. His reasoning was that it would create massive inequalities in leagues that had previously been closely fought - so for someone like BATE Borisov to qualify for the CL (which they have done on a few occasions) means that in one foul swoop they have become the richest club in Belarus (probably richer than all the other teams combined) and that this creates a huge imbalance in that domestic competition. I believe BATE have won their league at a canter ever since their first appearance in the CL.

But then on the other hand, it allowed a team like Malmo from Sweden to qualify last year. Sweden, I don't think, had had a team through into the group stages of the Champions League since the old king died (metaphorically speaking) because the like of Malmo, AIK or Kalmar would typically run into the like of Inter Milan or some such and get knocked out.

The new format has really hurt Italian teams because they are playing some big hitters (Udinese knocked out by Arsenal and Braga, Napoli disposed of my Bilbao and Lazio eliminated by Leverkusen) relatively speaking rather than getting easy byes against the like of the Swedish, Polish or Hungarian champions.

My personal feel is that it adds to the diversity of the competition, although this doesn't appear to be something that UEFA seem overly fussed about
TLG86
17-08-2016
wal28 - that is a very good point about the new system leading to dominant clubs in lower leagues.

I did some analysis of the Champions League earlier in the year if you are interested.

Personally I'd go back to the old qualifying system, but I doubt that would happen.
samburrows
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by wal28:
“My personal feel is that it adds to the diversity of the competition, although this doesn't appear to be something that UEFA seem overly fussed about”

I think UEFA are (or certainly were) quite keen on improving the diversity / variety of the competition but the threat of the big clubs going their own way is now forcing them down a certain route. This isn't a blank page competition design anymore; whatever UEFA thinks is the perfect target operating model is now irrelevant and has been superseded by a set of compromises to keep the larger clubs (businesses) inside the tent. Bit of a shame that.

Martin Samuel has written eloquently on these subjects for a number of years now - although I stopped reading his columns when he left the Times for the Mail. He was also opposed to Financial Fair Play for the same reasons - entrenchment of established wealth causing a competitive imbalance.

Football is constantly walking a tightrope on matters such as these. It will never go down the US Sports route of attempting to impose parity for the sake of competitive balance. Culturally, European sports tend to be more comfortable with the idea of organic growth (ironically embracing an ultra capitalist model of wealth distribution versus the American quasi-socialist approach to team funding).

As with all of these things there is no right answer. My personal preference would be to retain the current format for the most part but introduce a knockout round prior to the start of the group stage and then go into a 4x4 groups, QF, SF, F tournament structure. It would be nice to see the groups more keenly contested between a higher stature of teams - the downside is that you would lose the R16 fixtures from the current format which can be quite entertaining.

All of that said, if the idea of certain clubs being guaranteed entry every year on the basis of reputation alone was ever truly on the table, it is a matter of huge relief that it has been avoided.
Brian 77
17-08-2016
A compromise for the so called smaller teams would be to massively increase the prize money for the Europa League to soften the blow.
LOSG
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Brian 77:
“A compromise for the so called smaller teams would be to massively increase the prize money for the Europa League to soften the blow.”

And that the EL retains its winner into the CL group stage policy.
Howard_Gilpin
17-08-2016
TV3 showed Man City game live last night while RTE2 are showing Dundalk game live tonight. Wonder are Great Britian viewers jealous of us across the Irish Sea (both in ROI/NI) because we have FTA European club football?
sat-ire
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Howard_Gilpin:
“TV3 showed Man City game live last night while RTE2 are showing Dundalk game live tonight. Wonder are Great Britian viewers jealous of us across the Irish Sea (both in ROI/NI) because we have FTA European club football?”

Not when it's Dundalk, no

I'd argue that (and by some distance too) the majority of Irish viewers would prefer to watch Celtic - I wonder will the cable companies there take a pelting later...

Of course, cable viewers in Ireland might not be so gloaty when the major English teams are playing in the Europa League, and - should the likely happen - Dundalk are in the Europa League
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