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UEFA Champions League on TV
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Sirius
09-11-2013
I'm looking forward to Sky winding down their hype of the Champions League as we approach the end of next season. Less references to "Europe's premier club competition" etc.
fodg09
09-11-2013
The BT press release,

http://twitter.com/sportingintel/sta...196800/photo/1
Jokanovic
09-11-2013
Originally Posted by Sirius:
“I'm looking forward to Sky winding down their hype of the Champions League as we approach the end of next season. Less references to "Europe's premier club competition" etc.”

I wonder how SNN will cover it once gone.
I expect Championship games will grab the headlines
FCH
09-11-2013
Shocking typo in that press release. Hang your heads comms team!
D.M.N.
09-11-2013
Originally Posted by fodg09:
“The BT press release,

http://twitter.com/sportingintel/sta...196800/photo/1”

Dated November 11th. Wonder if they - and UEFA - brought it forward knowing intense media speculation.
Mr Newshound
09-11-2013
The winning bid value... €1,075,981,484.31
Jamesp84
09-11-2013
Positives: Less Chiles, Townsend, Shepherd, Redknapp

Negatives: More Humphrey, McManaman, Hargreaves, Warnock
Gray77
09-11-2013
So, the free games will be on BT Sport. This is not great unless they provide some way of getting HD on to Freeview. It will be like a step back in time for those who will not be watching through Sky or Virgin. And I honestly cannot believe that the European Cup Final will be shown in half of UK homes in SD on BT Sports freeview channel. That, if true, is a major step back.
Sirius
09-11-2013
Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“I wonder how SNN will cover it once gone.
I expect Championship games will grab the headlines ”

Well before Sky had rights you barely knew there was a game on. Similarly F1 didn't exist, and the SPL didn't exist when it was on Setanta.
1andrew1
09-11-2013
Originally Posted by ArchieArchivist:
“Disastrous news on three fronts. More expensive for subscribers and, in some case, less choice - furthermore, taking it off FTA is a terrible blow to people who aren't in a position to subscribe to pay TV. On the Sky platform, BT don't have the red button functionality to provide the blanket live coverage that Sky do. There's no point making all of those non-British group matches available online only as many people don't have the capability of receiving them.

I'm a massive fan of European football, but I think this will be a tipping point for me if BT do not provide the same availability on satellite TV that Sky have done.

I can't justify what I'm paying to Sky without Champions League - and I'm frustrated that BT will, in all likelihood, increase their charges substantially and probably provide less match coverage on satellite.

I think I might opt out completely.

Archie.”

See BT's press release, some matches and the final will be FTA. Pricing and precise coverage via each platform are unknowns at this stage. Remember BT had no channels before the Summer, it now has three across three pay TV platforms. A lot can change between now and 2015 - not just with BT but with technology too. Tablets are now outselling laptops and have displaced second TVs in lots of households.
I wonder if BT will set up a multi-platform BT Sports News channel to show these matches on? Time will tell. Incidentally, the BT Sport preview channel no. 57 is no longer at least on my equipment. Unfortunate timing for such an unveiling of rights.
PaulLFC
09-11-2013
So if I've worked it out right BT will pay a £60 million deposit now and then £140 million every 6 months from 2015.
fodg09
09-11-2013
In terms of the match choice offering, in the same way Sky kept the red button as a Sky exclusive for so long, I would be fairly certain BT's equivalent service will be exclusive to BT TV subscribers. I wonder does the capacity exist to deliver the matches through broadband? Suspect it does.
batdude_uk1
09-11-2013
How will BT show the matches?? There is no red button service, so how will they show more than one match at a time?

So isn't this a huge step backwards?

I don't understand how BT can move forward the service that Sky were doing, if they only show a maximum of three matches (if they make use of ESPN) at once, which is a downward step from the seven at once (on the same channel), and then eight at once, that Sky were showing, with ease of use to record individual matches.

How will someone be able to record say Barcelona v AC Milan, whilst watching Juventus v Real Madrid under this deal?

It really doesn't make any sense, and is just a huge step backwards as far as I can see, unless someone can tell me differently?
Jokanovic
09-11-2013
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“How will BT show the matches?? There is no red button service, so how will they show more than one match at a time?

So isn't this a huge step backwards?

I don't understand how BT can move forward the service that Sky were doing, if they only show a maximum of three matches (if they make use of ESPN) at once, which is a downward step from the seven at once (on the same channel), and then eight at once, that Sky were showing, with ease of use to record individual matches.

How will someone be able to record say Barcelona v AC Milan, whilst watching Juventus v Real Madrid under this deal?

It really doesn't make any sense, and is just a huge step backwards as far as I can see, unless someone can tell me differently?”

They have two years to sort it out. Relax.
Cricketblade
09-11-2013
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“It really doesn't make any sense, and is just a huge step backwards as far as I can see, unless someone can tell me differently?”

It's 2 years away. Technology will move on at the current rate and it'll be fine!
mattw
09-11-2013
The below may be two incomplete lists...

So what we know so far:

- BT win rights to all games in the Champions League and Europa League from 2015/16; and

- Some will be free to all (including both finals, and at least one match from each UK team).

Questions still to be answered:

- Will BT Sport show first choice matches free to all, or will it be less important matches just to fill quotas (would it for example include a big second leg semi final featuring a UK club);

- Will the free to all coverage just be on a non-encrypted BT Sport channel, or will they do some deal with a traditional terrestrial broadcaster (e.g. BT Sport on Channel 5). Unlikely I think but there has been precedent for this (for example in Germany a few years back);

- Will there be a separate highlights package and if so who will get it - BBC or itv;

- On what platform will they show the matches not shown on their main three channels; and

- Will it impact BT Sports cost to the consumer (i.e. will they up prices, or hope to pick up dramatically more broadband subscribers to absorb the cost).
Last edited by mattw : 09-11-2013 at 10:26
fodg09
09-11-2013
I wonder if exclusive Champions League rights on BT might lead to Ofcom forcing them to offer BT Sport at a regulated wholesale price?
TH14
09-11-2013
Originally Posted by Cricketblade:
“It's 2 years away. Technology will move on at the current rate and it'll be fine!”

I hope so, there isn't even a catch up/on demand service on the BT Sport app
batdude_uk1
09-11-2013
Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“They have two years to sort it out. Relax.”

Originally Posted by Cricketblade:
“It's 2 years away. Technology will move on at the current rate and it'll be fine!”

I hope that you are both right, because if not, and you have to have a whole heap of different gadgets to watch them all on, then it will be a farce.

I just wish to watch all of the group games on one channel, as I can currently on Wednesday nights, if that won't be possible, then it really will be a step backwards.
Adam Law
09-11-2013
Wonder if Sky Sports will be cheaper? Sorry I made myself laugh.
fodg09
09-11-2013
Jake saying they are keen to offer all the games at a more affordable price than Sky.
PaulLFC
09-11-2013
Originally Posted by TH14:
“I hope so, there isn't even a catch up/on demand service on the BT Sport app”

There is.
ArchieArchivist
09-11-2013
Originally Posted by 1andrew1:
“See BT's press release, some matches and the final will be FTA. Pricing and precise coverage via each platform are unknowns at this stage. Remember BT had no channels before the Summer, it now has three across three pay TV platforms. A lot can change between now and 2015 - not just with BT but with technology too. Tablets are now outselling laptops and have displaced second TVs in lots of households.
I wonder if BT will set up a multi-platform BT Sports News channel to show these matches on? Time will tell. Incidentally, the BT Sport preview channel no. 57 is no longer at least on my equipment. Unfortunate timing for such an unveiling of rights.”

Yeah, lots can indeed change, but I thought Sky's coverage of the competition was exceptionally good. Making 15 of 16 matches available live is a phenomenal proposition for the European football follower. Now, nobody knows what'll be available. What we do know, however, is that every time major rights like these change hands, the dedicated subscriber (i.e., the fan who wants all of the coverage) ends up paying more.

So, as good as competition is, we're not really seeing competition for Champions League rights. We are seeing a complete transfer of rights - a transfer that will, almost inevitably, cost the subscriber even more.

On the football front, paying £1billion for the rights will only skew the competition in favour of the English clubs as their pot becomes ever-larger in comparison to other countries where, for one reason or another, the rights are not so obscenely inflated.

Basically, I thought that the FTA viewer (such as children in families who couldn't subscribe) got a decent shake with the current deal, and the more well-off diehard got great coverage on Sky. In my view, that wasn't broken, so it's annoying that BT have decided to fix it for all of us.

On the upside, if BT Sport could provide the same level of blanket coverage as Sky - and give FTA viewers proper access - then it's possible that their channel could, in theory, provide more or less anything that the fan of the European game could want. The price point will then be key.

I'm not confident this will benefit me, personally, in any way. I'd love to be proved wrong, but I'm not really interested in elevating Jake Humprey's career at the expense of my choice or my wallet.

Archie.
corh5
09-11-2013
I currently pay £78.50 to sky for just TV, includes HD and multi room. I moved back to BT for broadband to get footie working out over the 18 month contract it was overall cheaper than staying with Sky for everything.

Now come 2015, I can't see BT offering free BT Sport with broadband for long.

My real fear is we could end up having to pay two companies vast amounts of money if we want to watch everything.

With household bills going up dramatically year on year and my pay been static for almost 5 years now something will eventually give.

I can really see a scenario where it will cost between £100 and £150 a month for multiple TV subscriptions I.e sky and BT (including non-sport) in the non to distant future. Hope I'm wrong on this but in that scenario if it becomes true the average viewer will have to make tough choices on what they want to watch.
Jamesp84
09-11-2013
I can't see SSN where I am at the moment, I'm assuming their current programming is either akin to someone dying, or more likely complete blissful ignorance of the news, as if nothing has happened.
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